Mini 1310: I Got My Eye On You Mafia (Game Over!)

[Amrun]

So you're conflicted about him ... but the wagon "sucks?" Doesn't add up.

I could see CSL being scum, but I picked up some town things from RC so I'm not overly concerned at this point. The DW wave thing was weird and I'm still processing it. i agree something is off there (and i pointed it out so yeah).

[Rainbowdash]

So you're conflicted about him ... but the wagon "sucks?" Doesn't add up.

CSL is my top scum pick. Im not a big fan of OOTN. When I see a few things about lucky that have me thinking they may be more VI-ish town, im not a fan of the wagon. Obviously its better than a few picks, but im not a fan so will be trying to move things elsewhere.

[Om of the Nom]

Actually, the more I think about it, the more v2v seems town.

lolololol... At least try to hide it Mr. Scummy, McJoseph Scum! The "I'm not going to do anything and let the day ride out' post followed by the "I'll just slander both people voting me without basis or reason' post leads you to think he's more town. Ha ha ha... I might not even have to actually post the scum Glass case if you keep this up mate. Don't make it so easy on me, okay?

I am still a bit scattered with this game, I'm planning to do a better reread of the game during the night. Right now, I only have gut suspicions to go on, and I can't really make cases on things that happened forever ago (Due to my own inability). I'll start making my own cases in due time.
Also I never mentioned specifically that it was any post that made me think v2v was town. Are you trying to put words into my mouth?

[BBmolla]

Oi vey I can support a CSL lynch.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: CSL

Scummy things everywhere in that ISO.

[Lopsy]

Voided: My family's spring break vacation will last until next Monday, so I won't be able to post at all until then. Feel free to replace me if that's too much. Sorry.

[CSL]

Mod: I'm afraid that due to rl problems, I won't be able to focus well enough to play mafia. Replace me.

Unvote

[malthusis]

Does everyone remember when Delta posted this:

P-Edit: To go one step further, my role PM doesn't just specify that I would turn up guilty to cops. I'll turn up guilty to anyone who can investigate. I don't know if that's a red herring or not.

Everyone knows it was

before

the whole 'mafia goon' part right? And everyone knows that it accounts for the whole 'mafia goon' thing right? And no one is stupid enough to let his own role slip before factoring this into his suspicions right? >.> (annoyed face)

Let's assume player A is a sane cop. He investigates Delta and sees a "mafia goon". Since "mafia goons" would come up as guilty, he probably gets a game vernacular version of 'guilty. bam, covered. BUT BUT BUT, Player B is an assumed role cop... Uh oh mod, role cop investigated Delta... Tsk tsk, didn't account for this possibility did you OH WAIT! He sees a "mafia goon" And gets a game vernacular version of that role! WHAT ARE THE ODDS?!?!?!

Surprisingly, you outlined most my suspicion for the claim better then I could

Basically, the claim seems like an extremely safe cover for an actual goon. Trackers, cops, role cops, it just seems like a massive forged "get out of jail free" card to me. As well, he claims miller on the first page (which is fine, that's standard procedure), but when actually questioned over 10 pages later, he just happens in "oh yeah, I actually show up as a goon to everything!".

Here's my post shortly after the claim:

(when asked why his claim is fishy)Probably because he mentioned it, became silent, then when asked in exact terms, mentions something really important that should have been mentioned right off the bat. Also, it seems like a perfect cover for an actual goon.

In fact, now that I think about it, wouldn't you naturally expect a cop (or a gazillion variations thereof) to appear in a cop-flavor themed game? This seems like a pre-emptive cover against attacks from cops from a scum.

Unvote, Vote DW

[malthusis]

EBWOP: I would also support a CSL wagon, because of the scummy actions of his predecessor, Rylai.

[Voidedmafia]

Votecount 2.1:

RainbowDash - IceGuy, Malthusis
Om of the Nom - ActionDan
IceGuy - vijay2vasandani
vijay2vasandani - Korlash
Amrun - Luckyjt
Korlash - Lopsy
Luckyjt - Om of the Nom, Amrun
CSL - RainbowDash, BBmolla

Not Voting: iStark, CSL

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch and to no-lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-04-05 15:06:38)

Eh, a week's fine, Lopsy, if stretching it a little. Thus, Lopsy will be V/LA until April 9th.

Also, searching for a replacement for CSL.

[Amrun]

VOTE: CSL

I don't buy it. He starts to get a bit of pressure and then replaces out? No. Power lynch.

[vijay2vasandani]

@ Malthusis: I think he just said that trackers and watchers don't affect him in that way. In the post about "gravedigger" abilities or whatever.

[Rainbowdash]

@ Malthusis: I think he just said that trackers and watchers don't affect him in that way. In the post about "gravedigger" abilities or whatever.

Gravedigger is a very rare role that I used for example. Its like a miller that instead of showing up guilty to cops always is revealed to what targeted anypony who dies.

Basically I have X role that investigates as a goon. I will be tracked or anything along those lines as what my X role is. If I target somepony, I am tracked to them. If I do nothing, I get tracked nowhere. Also as I said any roles with a "if target scum they die" clause exists, I wont kill them.

CSL lynch im still happy with, but not without a claim. We never lynch without a claim in something that sounds PR heavy.

[Amrun]

Well yeah.

[Rainbowdash]

I have no faith in the competence of other ponies at this point. Everything needs to be as simply spelled out as possible if not simpler.

[Korlash]

Well yeah, I'm in this game... It's a given that things need to be spelled out... >.>

[Korlash]

I don't buy it. He starts to get a bit of pressure and then replaces out? No. Power lynch.

Does he have a history of doing this? Otherwise, this just seems like a dick move on your part. Has he replaced out of any other games?

[iStark]

I'm not liking lucky wagon.

Also, we might want to stop digging that Miller claim, it's getting repetitive with no clear explanation, I guess we just have to think about DW spot lynch if he is alive till Lylo.
( I'm taking reference from some other ongoing game where this miller claim thing is going on as well and some one brought this point up and it's making sense to me)

I'm supporting both V2v & RC/CSL lynch since this are the only two other people I've found scummy in this entire game, my case on RC is stronger then what I've on V2v so I'm putting my vote on RC/CSL.

VOTE: CSL

[Om of the Nom]

I'll support a CSL lynch.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: CSL
I think this is L-2.

[ActionDan]

Prod dodging! I'll be back to normal in 4-5 hours. also the CSL wagon sucky. I will argue against this lynch with all I've got left if I have to.

[malthusis]

Well, a DW lynch isn't happening today, so I'll so back to my first set of suspicions:

Unvote, Vote CSL

L-1.

[Rainbowdash]

unvote
Vote malthusis

Woah woah woah

I need to at very least think about this. Zero to six votes in ten seconds flat with NO case ever being made? Smells fishy.

@OOTM and malthus - Give me your CSL cases.

[malthusis]

unvote
Vote malthusis

Woah woah woah

I need to at very least think about this. Zero to six votes in ten seconds flat with NO case ever being made? Smells fishy.

@OOTM and malthus - Give me your CSL cases.

I have none. My case is against Rylai, CSL's predecessor, who I've been rallying case against for the first 2/3rds of the game, and then only recently dropped because he got replaced out. Have you explored the cache thoroughly yet? It should have been fairly ovious I've been wanting to lynch him for a looooooong time.

[Amrun]

I don't buy it. He starts to get a bit of pressure and then replaces out? No. Power lynch.

Does he have a history of doing this? Otherwise, this just seems like a dick move on your part. Has he replaced out of any other games?

He replaces out a lot, but how would that be a "dick move?" lol

[Rainbowdash]

I have none. My case is against Rylai, CSL's predecessor, who I've been rallying case against for the first 2/3rds of the game, and then only recently dropped because he got replaced out. Have you explored the cache thoroughly yet? It should have been fairly ovious I've been wanting to lynch him for a looooooong time.

Ive skimmed the cache but its more frustrating when my normal methods of reading cant be used there.

Summarize/Quote a case for me though, you should have seen this question coming.

@istark - If you had a choice between v2v and CSL who would you lynch?

[Voidedmafia]

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