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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:17 pm

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What BB said about me calling myself town. Yes, it's annoying--sorry. But it's not scummy.

This is an amazing OMGUS, and I'm trying to figure out if it's scummy. Food for thought.

Grey did not declare Ghostlin town for one action. I was the one who said his vote on StefanB/BBmolla when he could have jumped on Slandaar (most likely scum) was very good (though in retrospect, with my current townreads, it's actually a red light and requires review tomorrow).

Since I can now say this, my original scumread on Ghostlin was due to a (then ongoing) game in which he had flipped scum and was acting very similarly to this game. On closer inspection, the comparison doesn't seem to hold.

As scumbuddies, I would powerbus Grey like a boss. :lol: I am not scum, and I think Grey is town. You're right, if we were scum together it would make the whole trading votes situation make me look awesome and selfless and super townie while not taking any actual risks, but I've been bending over with protown actions for most of today. (Yes, yes, I know, nauseating. Btw, by ridiculously protown I was actually referring to the other three because reckless I-don't-care abandon from
me
, but anyway.) My reply as for Grey being town is NOT wrong at all. Glork posited a very clear explanation as to why Grey is very unlikely to be scum, and I agree with it. , pointed out by
Slandaar
of all people, is not coaching--it's me trying to pull the confrontational level down. I know that, as scum, there's little else I love more than to see Grey tunnel town to their grave while being obnoxious and loud.

For scum meta. (Also Glork and GreyICE town meta.) That's a completely different definition of cowardly.

The MVP quotes say:
"I nominated Tierce because I did see her as most pro-town."
Come D2:
"I haven't decided on the legitimacy of Tierce's little "vengekill" frenzy.
Glork is an early town read."
"At the end of D1, I was reading inte and [Tierce] as weakTown."
And now this, from your latest post:
"Going into N1 you were my top pro-town rank followed by Glork."

So... when day started today, you said that inte and I were weak town reads on the end of D1. Glork did not feature on that list.

I just fail to see how your strongest town reads on D1 are three
weak
town reads, since you were reading me as weakTown, inte as weakTown and apparently Glork as weakTown too (where did that come from, again?). They are far too soft, uncompromising reads. I am not afraid of changing my reads, heck, as town I've been known to tunnel on scum, call them town and tunnel someobe else who then flips town. :/ But your reads... meh. You do not take strong stances, those reads are weaselly.

It's not that you changed your read on me, it's that on early D2, you show no record of having a good, solid townread on me from D1. You have an "early town read" on Glork". Why did the MVP go to me and not Glork, then?


PEdit: Ghostlin has not been on MS.

PeregrineV, you know better about my town meta. MwtK had Tiercetown completely confused about why I was alive.

As for Glork, you are clearly not reading the thread. He changed his mind on Slandaar. As town does. Seriously, Glork is town, and so is pizza. I can't make this any clearer.


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(10 players alive = 6 to lynch)
(6) Slandaar – pizzadudes7, Glork, GreyICE, Tierce, BBmolla, inte

(1) GreyICE – Slandaar
(1) PeregrineV – Ghostlin
(1) Glork – PeregrineV

Not voting
: Dazzy

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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:36 pm

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I didn't know that was over. I only hit 50% scum, but my townreads were better. :D

Re: Glork- I checked his Iso once to see how he "transitioned" over but didn't see it, but it doesn't mean much until Slandaar flips. Even then, I don't want to say too much just in case, but I hear what you are saying. I'll leave it at that.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:44 pm

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Can we just end this day so we can get Inte tomorrow and then do in BB/Dazzy (feel free to switch that order)
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:46 pm

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We're waiting on the mod, Grey. European timezone, etc.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:49 pm

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Fuck europe. What does it produce? Lousy time zones and eurotrash.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:58 pm

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Dazzy wrote:
Tierce wrote:
Dazzy wrote:The Majiffy kill is kind of odd based on what I remember.

Why?

I guess it's just that majiffy wasn't very high on my town reads, and I don't see the benefit of offing him when there are several people who have expressed suspicion of him. That is, I thought there would have been higher-priority targets for scum based on majiffy's D1 play.

Bleah. To be fair, I rarely see people do NK analysis these days, but most town who does that tries to reach conclusions of sorts, iirc. Dazzy reaches no conclusions at all, it's just this vague sense of oddity and weirdness about the kill. I may be burying myself in confirmation bias, but this seems scummy WIFOM from scum who opted for a suboptimal NK.

Elsewhere, Dazzy calls Majiffy a scumkill. This may be relevant.


I did a review of Dazzy's first Newbie game (his game with Ghostlin) and the Dazzy we see in this current game is much less willing to offer his own thoughts and conclusions. Up until his post on me, everything is
vague
, like he is waiting on everyone else to jump in and give their own conclusions first so he can agree with them after the fact. This is scummy, because it is opposed to town proactiveness. Even his post about me was "theory! ...but no real conclusion, this might be nothing..."


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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:05 pm

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Fine. Kill Dazzy first. The only read I have on that slot was lurky somewhat scum maybe. I shed no tears.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:08 pm

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End of Day 2


Final vote count D2

(6) Slandaar – pizzadudes7, Glork, GreyICE, Tierce, BBmolla, inte
(1) GreyICE – Slandaar
(1) PeregrineV – Ghostlin
(1) Glork – PeregrineV

Not voting
: Dazzy


The gobbos had been throwing accusations far and wide, and for quite some time too (Dazzy got tired of it and fell asleep, but woke up just before they settled on lynching Slandaar. And how they rejoiced once they got hold of his team shirt hidden beneath the Grutto’s Gangsta’s: He was of the GooN team, one of those new hybrid teams trying to mix the brilliance of the gobbo minds with the brute force of festering nurgle.



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); sir Gore the Gangrenous; gobbo; Godfather; lineman) Lynched D2

It is now night. Send in your night choices and Nominations. Deadline for N2 is Tuesday 3 April 16:00 CET.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:40 am

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Day 3


As soon as Slandaar is lynched there is a lot of commotion, benches are moved around and feet are shuffling back and forth. That muffled throbbing sound is once again whirling in the background and another cry of pain is heard, this one more like a grunt. The growling stomach is once again made itself known. Tierce is in the end dead on the floor and pizza is the one who has vanished in thin air.


Tierce (
Grutto's Gangsta's
; Retch the renowned; gobbo; rookie; thrower) Night killed N2
Pizzadudes7 (
Grutto's Gangsta's
; Disgorge the Dazzling; gobbo; rookie; lineman) Disappeared N2

It is now Day 3, and time to get on with the plan of eliminating the enemies of Grutto’s Gangsta’s.

Deadline for Day 3 is Tuesday 24 April 16:00 CET
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:45 am

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Mod note:
Ghostlin is replaced by Yates. Thanks for replacing in!)
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:02 am

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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:07 am

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Glork, are you the serial killer? Because you're not masons with Pizzadude, and I just have a feeling.

Anyway, today is a double lynch day. Two of Inte, BB, and Dazzy will die, and one of them is Inte.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:23 am

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nope

also we should be looking more closely at glork seeing as he was vehemently defending pizzadudes' town alignment

explanation on why you knew he was town GO
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:24 am

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inte wrote:also we should be looking more closely at glork seeing as he was vehemently defending pizzadudes' town alignment

...wat
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:26 am

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So, a few things.

1) No surprise on the kills. Our job just got a bit harder.
2) Apparently my position changed overnight. As far as I know, my role did not. I'm seeking clarificaiton from the mod.
3) I'm thinking it's 2-2-9 multiball, but I'm not completely sure on that yet. Today's flip will help determine that.
4) I want BBMolla and Dazzy to give me a full assessment of the game. (I'm assuming here that Dazzy has had ample time to get caught up on things.)


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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:27 am

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Glork wrote:2) Apparently my position changed overnight. As far as I know, my role did not. I'm seeking clarificaiton from the mod.

Mine did too btw.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:27 am

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I'll fully asses when I get home, I have class.
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:28 am

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BBmolla wrote:asses

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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:28 am

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7 alive
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mislynch brings town to a loss am i correct?

please tell me our PRs haven't afk'd every night

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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:30 am

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Is that what the pogo stick thing does?
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:31 am

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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:33 am

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Also, a mislynch doesn't necessarily mean we lose. We could get lucky with crosskills.

However, we are going to lynch scum today.
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:35 am

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Wait. Grey. Duh.

You on? Let's figure some shit out.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:38 am

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i don't like glork's interactions with slandaar
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:42 am

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You're joking, right? Glork is the reason Slandaar got lynched.

Out of a pool of GreyICE, Slandaar, BBMolla, and inte. Glork cleared Grey and pushed first Tierce, then GreyICE onto Slandaar. Slandaar doesn't get lynched if Glork doesn't swing that way.
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