Mini 1313: Blood Bowl Mafia (Game over)

[Glork]

inte, GreyICE will

NOT

be lynched.

Please move to PV or Slandaar.

Prefer Slandaar for now.

It's YOUR interactions with Slandaar that are alarming, inte. Are you sure you want to get into this right now?

Vote count

(7 players alive = 4 to lynch)

Not voting

: BBmolla, Dazzy, Glork, GreyICE, inte, PeregrineV, Yates

Deadline

: Tuesday 24 April 16:00 CET

[inte]

inte, GreyICE will

NOT

be lynched.

Please move to PV or Slandaar.

Prefer Slandaar for now.

It's YOUR interactions with Slandaar that are alarming, inte. Are you sure you want to get into this right now?

k, hit me with your best shot

try to get me lynched, im daring you

[Glork]

It's solidly null for me.

But Slandaar is def f'sho the play today.

Glork I'm doing rereads, I have PeregrineV on my list as well as Dazzy, is there anyone in particular you want to hear more from me about?

Slandaar.

I demand you put Slandaar at L-1 and call for a claim.

Oh, inte. You and BBMolla are soooooooo the plays today.

[Glork]

Okay.

I'm going to go take a shower. Then I'm going to come back and check this thread before I head to work.

When I get back, if at least one of the following two things has not happened:
A) Slandaar claims
B) inte hammers Slandaar


HEADS will ROLL. There will be no mercy, Slandaar and inte will be CONFIRMED SCUMBUDDIES, and we will have this game in our back pocket practically.

nice threat but this wagon has been going by too nicely

inte, are you scum?

[Glork]

You defended Slandaar right up until the point where I said "if you don't hammer him, we'll find someone else to hammer him, and then we'll lynch you next."
You tried so very hard to not lynch Slandaar.


I was all set to lynch BBMolla, and then Dazzy, but you're seriously making me rethink this, inte.

[Glork]

Fuck this shit. I was hoping Grey was still here, but I'm just going to claim.


I'm Slice the Shredder. I'm a race cop (Looney). I can torture someone with my chainsaw every night, and based on how they scream while I'm cutting them, I can tell what race they are.
N1, I checked pizzadudes. He was on the kondiwagon and basically unreadable to me. He was a gobbo.
N2, the dice roll told me to use my role ability and save my SPP. So I checked BBMolla. He's a TROLL.


So now I have a guilty, and I still get to self-protect tonight.~

Vote: BBMolla

[inte]

phew im glad i didn't have to showdown and blow up your story
i'm glad you were turned out to be the invest role
btw i have a near bulletproof defense (at least in my eyes)
it'll come d4 if im still around

unless im being played ._.

[inte]

whoops VOTE: BBmolla

[inte]

it really doesn't sound construed at all so i guess it will be heart of the cards time

[Glork]

Just out of curiosity... inte did you switch people's positions N1? If so, who?

[inte]

Yes, but first you answer why did you select BBmolla for your invest?
Pretty crazy you get the SK on your 2nd invest

[Yates]

o/

I was assigned a crap ton of homework last night. 10 pages of archive [with no ISO] and 26 pages current game. I wrote notes as I read rather than skipping to the end.

These were my thoughts coming out of Day 1:
Who pressured kondi?

Slandaar

, Ghostlin, Pizzadudes7, Majiffy, Malee, Glork, Tierce
Probably 1 more scum in that list.

majiffy - killed - who would want Majiffy gone?
pappums - disappeared - Gave bomb to: ???




What I like about the Slandaar flip:

Post #7 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:25 am

letting the scum know who is being nominated seems bad

VOTE: Ghost

I think Slandaar is the kind of player that pretends his scum buddies don't exist viz a viz votes. His next vote, for example, was for Kondi [flip Town].

Post #32 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:25 pm
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kondi[/vote]

Why

Inte

might be Town:
Troll - maybe. Even then, he wasn't trolling all that hard and his content posts had actual value
If we are subscribing to the theory that Slandaar ignores his scum buddies:

Post #93 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:04 pm

Dear Inte

Please answer questions directed at you

Regards
Slandaar

Then again, he was the first to cast suspicion on Slandaar:

Post #67 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:01 am

slandaar's one post is suspect

Post #72 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:45 am

he has had one post, and it was a heart striking one at that. he left it up to the rest of the townies to interpret exactly what he means and thats what scum does, incite chaos...

kondi has been too difficult to read at all so far. i am starting to develop reads on people n such and its not like im screaming to lynch him.

What I don't like about Glork:
Rolefishing Kondi [Tierce loses Town points here as well]
Cheerleading Kondi lynch and suggesting Slandaar-oops-Pappums give the bomb to... Pappums.

Post #???? [Bottom Page 4] » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:11 pm

Give it to pappums. And get your vote back on Kondi so I can hammah!

Post #???? [Page 5] » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:13 pm

Oh wait, paps is the bombardier. I'm on my phone and thought tha was Slandaar's avatar.

Maybe a recovery?

Post #???? [3 posts later] » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:23 pm

We are not bombing someone today.

Except kondi offered up good logic [for him and the information you had at the time] here:

Post #???? [Bottom Page 5] » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:31 am

No, we're not wasting this day. I know I'm town, so I want to have a chance of scum dying today. Also, if you're willing to lynch me, why aren't you willing to bomb me and possibly (from your POV) get two scum in one day?

And pappums backed that up with more good logic and a very good question:
[quote="pappums rat]Post #???? [Page 7] » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:11 am
Also Glork,

why do you want the lynch so quickly?

we are only 7 pages in and a lot of discussion can still be had today.

Everyone: what is your opinion of Kondi's reaction to my claim (asking to be given the bomb and etc.)?[/quote]
This is where I see Glork hedging his bets:

Post #???? [Page 7] » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:41 pm

I suspect we'll be able to know for sure whether Kondi is lying as the game progresses. The claim actually does more to dissuade me than the request to get the bomb. Asking to have the bomb is a gambit that scum-on-the-ropes with nothing to lose could easily make. That does nothing for me. The claim itself seems to check out, though, so I'm a little unsure.

What I don't like about Tierce:
Rolefishing Kondi
The pretending to be afraid you might die gambit feels diengenuous.

Post #???? » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:50 am

In post 128, Majiffy wrote:

In post 126, inte wrote:?

reason now

Same reason I was voting you. I think you're going to be an annoying troll, and annoying trolls should be disposed of.

Yo inte.

If I die tonight, explain tomorrow what you were doing here, then lynch this guy. He wants to lynch for the sake of lynching, not for figuring out your alignment.

Stop. Hammer time? In the middle of the bomb toss discussion?

Post #???? [Page 9] » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:42 am

In post 221, Majiffy wrote:inb4 Tierce is reading me wr- Oh, too late.

S'okay, you'll get to kill obvtown me tonight and don't need to worry about it tomorrow, scum~

HAMMAHvote: kondi2424

So while I loled at kondi's fake venge-kill, this did surprise me:

Post #???? [Page 10] » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:53 am

Realized there's one bit of my role that might not become available upon flip (who knows) and might be relevant for claim counting--

I'm a thrower

.

Also wtf kondi, I'm obvtown. >_< This had better be a scum venge.

Possibly fake as well but feels genuine. Not sure what to do with this yet.



Why Dazzy is Town:
I would have put the breaks on the turbo wagon on kondi as well:

Post #???? [Page 7] » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:31 am

Hey all, sorry for the short absence there.

Kondi lynch built up some real steam in a relatively short amount of time, and I have to say I'm not a fan of it at this point. Some meh posting, but nothing I'd lynch him over.

I'm also liking his read on Majiffy same post:

Post #???? [Page 7] » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:31 am]First, the attacks on Tierce's play do not address the points against him. The second is that according to Majiffy, we're still in RVS. As was pointed out, we've got some decent discussion going, and I also think that he could find a better target than inte. If, in fact, we were still in RVS at that point, I also find it suspect that he would be willing to keep kondi at such a high-risk level (that is, his vote on kondi doesn't sit right with me if his view of the gamestate is that we are/were still in RVS.)

Looking at his actual vote, it's all numbers, no actual substance. I realise that not all votes need an accompanying case, but considering that before that post, he only had one neutral interaction with kondi, and says nothing about the actual wagon while jumping on it, I don't like it.

On a very minor point, Maj was just in a game with me for a short time, and I am not getting the strong town vibes that I did that game.

VOTE: Majiffy

Why StefanB [nee Tebow] could be Town:
I like his calling out Tierce and the way he handled Ghostlin's [ironicly my slot's] nonsensical demand:

Post #???? [Page 7] » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:31 am

In post 83, Tierce wrote:Besides, you are adding weight to a statement that was meant only to convey sarcasm and amusement. Yes, I should have been clearer.

Meh. I hate when I call someone out on a scummy action and they claim it was a joke. There was no indication that that was sarcastic at all. That said, I'm not saying it wasn't. Just. Grrrrr.

In post 81, Ghostlin wrote:Did you read 37 and 46. It's required reading this game. Get your vote off Tierce.

I strongly object to being accused of not reading the game because I take a different position to you, and I will not be bullied into moving my vote simply because you have the arrogance to demand it.

Why Malee is null leaning scum:
Right out of the gate:

Post #???? » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:15 am
Ok I've read the thread and from this first read I think that Kondi and pappums are both scum. Pappums claim is convenient, could as well be a scum role. It's undeniable there is a link between both of them.

What a ridiculous post. Seriously. The fact they both flipped Town looks

really bad

for Malee as well.

A bit of a make up post here:

Post #???? [Page 8] » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:45 am

In post 187, Tierce wrote:@Malee - Apparently the bombing must be announced in-thread.

This changes a lot about my current read, but only on Paps. If it has to be announced publicly then yes, it will make no doubt that the target is genuine. But I can't phatom kondi's logic by wanting the bomb instead of getting lynched. If we are 100% sure that the bomb won't explore directly and that kondi would actually scumhunt instead of sitting on his hands and wanting to be town's martyr, then I'd agree with it.

If Kondi is town, he shouldn't put himself out and agree to be the bomb's target

. From what I know, Paps doesn't have to use the ability. If he gets NK'd without having used it, it's not a drama.

Going in to Day 2 I will want to know:
Who caught slandaar? Did he buddy or distance with anyone? Will my theory on him ignoring a scum buddy hold true?

I'm only on page 9 so give me some time for Day 2.

[GreyICE]

Fuck this shit. I was hoping Grey was still here, but I'm just going to claim.


I'm Slice the Shredder. I'm a race cop (Looney). I can torture someone with my chainsaw every night, and based on how they scream while I'm cutting them, I can tell what race they are.
N1, I checked pizzadudes. He was on the kondiwagon and basically unreadable to me. He was a gobbo.
N2, the dice roll told me to use my role ability and save my SPP. So I checked BBMolla. He's a TROLL.


So now I have a guilty, and I still get to self-protect tonight.~

Vote: BBMolla

HAHAHAHA

YES
YES
YES

I TOLD YOU I BRING THE GOODS

Vote: BBMolla

MVP GLORK TONIGHT AGAIN

MORE COP GOODNESS

[GreyICE]

phew im glad i didn't have to showdown and blow up your story
i'm glad you were turned out to be the invest role
btw i have a near bulletproof defense (at least in my eyes)
it'll come d4 if im still around

unless im being played ._.

Inte.

I am shooting you tonight.

If you have a bulletproof defense, claim it now.

[Glork]

Yes, but first you answer why did you select BBmolla for your invest?
Pretty crazy you get the SK on your 2nd invest

Because StefanB really seemed scummy to me, and I felt like BBMolla's vote on Slandaar was more to placate me/Tierce than anything else.

Do we know that BB is the SK? Is there some kind of Blood Bowl flavor I'm missing that makes him the SK and not groupscum?

[GreyICE]

Yates: Tierce is town. Unless you want to suggest the moderator is lying to us. That route lies madness and bad stuff.

You replaced Ghostlin?

[Glork]

Grey, I'mma

Unvote

SOLELY to prevent a premature hammah.

I want updates from Dazzy and Yates, since they just came back recently.

But yea, BB is da play today.

[Glork]

Yates: Tierce is town. Unless you want to suggest the moderator is lying to us. That route lies madness and bad stuff.

You replaced Ghostlin?

Read his post... those are the notes he took while re-reading the cache overnight.

[Glork]

Issue, Grey: I asked the mod, and I can't use Block/Dodge

and

a role ability in the same night. I only get one or the other. You can confirm that role abilities and block/dodge can't be used at the same time if you want by PMing the mod.

I think my only options are to protect and ensure a confirmed townie tomorrow, or go for the gold and vig.

I'm thinking protect is the play here. You can MVP vote me again, and I'll just keep self-protecting.

Bleh, that means I need to be on the lynch wagon.

Vote: BBMolla

[GreyICE]

*sigh*

Fair enough.

It still feels bad.

Scum is in:

-Yates
-Inte
-Dazzy
-PV

I've already said I think PV is town, and I'm not highly likely to change that.

That means from my perspective it's 2 of Inte, Dazzy, and Yates. Meaning I want to see dancing from all 3, because a bullet is landing in that pool.

[Yates]

Yates: Tierce is town.

Read his post... those are the notes he took while re-reading the cache overnight.

All still from Day 1 where I had Glork as obvscum.

You replaced Ghostlin?

Yes.

[Yates]

Also:

I want to see dancing from all 3, because a bullet is landing in that pool.

I'm not Baryshnikov.

[Yates]

Now that I can actually quote people for real, this is what I have through page 5:

Here's what I'm looking for Day 2:
Who caught slandaar?
- Did he buddy or distance with anyone?
- Will my theory on him ignoring a scum buddy hold true?

Who pressured kondi?

Slandaar

,

Ghostlin

Yates

, Pizzadudes7,

Majiffy

, Malee, Glork, Tierce
Probably 1 more scum in that list. Interesting that two of my top suspects [Glork and Malee] plus a scum leaning read [Tierce] from Day 1 round out that list.

majiffy - killed - who would want Majiffy gone?
pappums - disappeared - Gave bomb to: ???

Pappums rat -

Disappeared N1

Makes me think we have a Deleter/SK on our hands. I don't know flavor so does a 3rd Party make sense?



Dazzy continues Town read with post 12 "I guess it's just that majiffy wasn't very high on my town reads, and I don't see the benefit of offing him when there are several people who have expressed suspicion of him. That is, I thought there would have been higher-priority targets for scum based on majiffy's D1 play."
I forgive him for voting my slot.




Where PeregrineV starts to become scummy:
Post 18





Where Tierce starts acting scummy again:
Posts 7 and 23
Post 46 sounds like distancing [from Glork] and doesn't actually present any logical defense - though she's right about Ghostlin's reaction

it's just a sprinkle of truth in a pooridge of wifom.



Where Glork continues scummy behaviors:
Post 26 "for now"
Post 25 "1-2 Scum" Is good.
Post 60 - which is completely ignored by Slandaar?!
Post 93 is genuine but could be scum or Town.
Slandaar 97 - ugh. I don't like him calling Glork Town AND calling Malee scum

Maybe I can make the rest of this more pretty.

[Johoohno]

Vote count

(7 players alive = 4 to lynch)
(3) BBmolla – inte, GreyICE, Glork

Not voting

: BBmolla, Dazzy, PeregrineV, Yates

Deadline

: Tuesday 24 April 16:00 CET

[GreyICE]

Unvote

We can't lynch yet.

Glork, logic time. We need a mass claim.