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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:34 am

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Looking at the logic, it is currently 4:2:1

When we lynch BBMolla it is either 4:1:1 or 4:2

If it is 4:2


If I shoot and hit town, we lose. Period. Therefore, the optimal strategy in this case is for both of us to shoot, Glork.

- If we hit 2 town, we lose just as hard as if we hit 1 town
- If we hit 1 town, 1 scum, we are in 2:1 LyLo
- If we hit 2 scum we win

If it is 4:1:1


Tomorrow is either 4:0 win, 3:1, or 2:1:1 if I don't shoot. If I shoot it could be anywhere from 3:0 win to 1:1:1. If we both shoot, it COULD be 1:1, but chances are we will hit 2:1 LyLo.


My feeling is that the optimal strategy is for us both to fire tonight. This will make today effectively a TRIPLE lynch day.

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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:37 am

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I assume molla is the SK cause your invest reveals troll instead of gobbo, which we know for sure is the race of scum because of slandaar's flip

It's only speculation tho
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:39 am

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Agreed.

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BBMolla really doesn't need to claim. He's guaranteed scum.


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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:40 am

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inte wrote:I assume molla is the SK cause your invest reveals troll instead of gobbo, which we know for sure is the race of scum because of slandaar's flipIt's only speculation tho

No, Slandaar was a GODFATHER, so his race is him being immune to my investigation.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:40 am

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EBWOP: "Agreed" was @ GreyICE.
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:44 am

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inte wrote:I assume molla is the SK cause your invest reveals troll instead of gobbo, which we know for sure is the race of scum because of slandaar's flip

It's only speculation tho

You mean.

Slandaar's

Godfather flip

And he claimed RACE COP?

That's why Glork's claim is 98% believable (the 2% is literally from the fact he's good enough to fake this, anyone else in this game would be 100%).

Slaandar flipped
Gobbo GODFATHER


A race cop makes perfect sense if the Godfather is the same race as everyone else.

I, however, want BBMolla's claim.
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:46 am

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? So I was looking too far into flavor?

Dang this just got harder

Anyways, a similar situation came up before, in my first game on site

I'll explain how its relevant later when I'm on the computer

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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:47 am

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Okay, claim order. Glork, vet this:

BBMolla
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PeregrineV (deference to Glork's feelings here)
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Glork just claimed.

This wash with you Glork?
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:51 am

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More:
Where GreyIce [nee Malee] continues looking scummy:
Might be slight of hand [something I don't know Slandaar can pull off] but:
Slandaar wrote:Not posting in this game while posting elsewhere is freaking scummy. Its scummy lurking, not pl lurking. Add to that the prod/replace dodges of 'cant post content cant view the first 10 pages?!!!'[/quote
Then again, he jumped right in with the third vote on Malee:
Slandaar wrote:Lets do this

UNVOTE:
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GreyIce

This post is in her favor, too.




Where Stefan [nee Teebow] started looking scummy:
This postis a good starting point.

JC - this is taking too long. I *just* got to GreyICE replacing in. I'm just going to get caught up and start playing...
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:53 am

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Yeah, sure. We'll wait on BBMolla.

Really no rush to get into this. Just to be clear:

I expect
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2) Their role
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4) Their position
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:56 am

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Sigh.

I pretty much figured out slandaar was scum because I had JUST played a game with him before the crash. His playstyle was far too similar to it before for me to ignore.

See page 3 day 1

Since nobody even pair attention to what I said, I planned to keep quiet about my meta reference until further in the game for it to be more useful

Unluckily he slipped or something and u guys caught on

Grey have you ever bussed a teammate page 3 day one? It's highly unlikely seeing as at that time there was no suspicion on him
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:19 am

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Glork wrote:2) Apparently my position changed overnight. As far as I know, my role did not. I'm seeking clarificaiton from the mod.

I was told it doesn't change anything for me other than position. *shrug*
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:20 am

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That was weird. That should have said "Mine too... I was told it doesn't change anything for me other than position. *shrug*"
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:31 am

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inte wrote:Sigh.

I pretty much figured out slandaar was scum because I had JUST played a game with him before the crash. His playstyle was far too similar to it before for me to ignore.

See page 3 day 1

Since nobody even pair attention to what I said, I planned to keep quiet about my meta reference until further in the game for it to be more useful

Unluckily he slipped or something and u guys caught on

Grey have you ever bussed a teammate page 3 day one? It's highly unlikely seeing as at that time there was no suspicion on him

In answer to the bussing, yes, yes, yes.

However:

Inte Day 1, page 3:
i would not be upset at a kondi lynch


Why do you prefer a Ghostlin lynch over a kondi lynch, inte?

i dont like michigan

that being said, only reason id be ok with a kondi lynch is because (s?)he is purposely being confusing

slandaar's one post is suspect

fair enough.

---
he has had one post, and it was a heart striking one at that. he left it up to the rest of the townies to interpret exactly what he means and thats what scum does, incite chaos.

my vote is rvs because i dont have anywhere else significant to put it, so :p

kondi has been too difficult to read at all so far. i am starting to develop reads on people n such and its not like im screaming to lynch him.

confusion leads to the dark side



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Calling your teammates scummy without trying to get them lynched is called "distancing"

And it's fairly typical scumplay.
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:11 am

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Woah hold on wtf .-.

Okay then I guess I'm a miller. How the hell was I supposed to know that though? My role PM doesn't say shit about it. I don't know jack about Blood Bowl, so I thought me being a Troll was a normal thing.

Folks, if we lynch me today, odds are most likely that
WE WILL LOSE
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1) Their name - Muck the Marvelous
2) Their role - Rookie, aka Vanilla
3) Their race - Troll
4) Their position - I was catcher, but last night I was changed to lineman.
5) Any actions they have taken day or night - None except for voting and nominating.
6) Their MVP votes on both nights - Night 1 Tebow didn't nominate and last night I nominated Glork.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:31 am

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w/e
swag you can eliminate me to reduce suspect pool, just make sure you add into your calculations for outcomes that you're hitting a townie

@ bbmolla

... u gotta come up with something better than that

1) Their name - Puke the Perfect
2) Their role - rookie (vanilla)
3) Their race - gobbo
4) Their position - thrower (this is a real funny pun to me)
5) Any actions they have taken day or night - nothing n1, changed positions n2
6) Their MVP votes on both nights - no nominate n1, nominate tierce n2

I changed these players into these positions:

i literally did it because i was bored

Dazzy - catcher
Ghostlin - catcher
Glork - blitzer
GreyICE - blitzer
PeregrineV - catcher
Pizzadudes7 - lineman
BBmolla - lineman
Tierce - blitzer

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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:36 am

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If you're vanilla, how did you change everyone's position?
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:38 am

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inte wrote:... u gotta come up with something better than that

I'm not "coming up" with anything. I just said what my role PM says.

GreyICE wrote:If you're vanilla, how did you change everyone's position?

You need to follow your own advice though.
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:41 am

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GreyICE wrote:
inte wrote:Sigh.

I pretty much figured out slandaar was scum because I had JUST played a game with him before the crash. His playstyle was far too similar to it before for me to ignore.

See page 3 day 1

Since nobody even pair attention to what I said, I planned to keep quiet about my meta reference until further in the game for it to be more useful

Unluckily he slipped or something and u guys caught on

Grey have you ever bussed a teammate page 3 day one? It's highly unlikely seeing as at that time there was no suspicion on him

In answer to the bussing, yes, yes, yes.

However:

Inte Day 1, page 3:
i would not be upset at a kondi lynch


Why do you prefer a Ghostlin lynch over a kondi lynch, inte?

i dont like michigan

that being said, only reason id be ok with a kondi lynch is because (s?)he is purposely being confusing

slandaar's one post is suspect

fair enough.

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he has had one post, and it was a heart striking one at that. he left it up to the rest of the townies to interpret exactly what he means and thats what scum does, incite chaos.

my vote is rvs because i dont have anywhere else significant to put it, so :p

kondi has been too difficult to read at all so far. i am starting to develop reads on people n such and its not like im screaming to lynch him.

confusion leads to the dark side



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Calling your teammates scummy without trying to get them lynched is called "distancing"

And it's fairly typical scumplay.



cept he was trying to cast suspicion on me (and get me lynched)

i play the easy target usually because it leads to scum trying to prey on me

how in sam hell does distancing work like that then

check out this game, the exact same thing happened to me.

READ:
Fathom42/LostGirlChan and Sampson(I think?)/vijay2vasandani

the important part was that fathom was scum, i played same type of gambit, and most of the game was me trying to get him/LostGirlChan lynched because i was fairly certain that the slot was scum

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=200

u can even read the archived version of the game, saved by tierce. its in the last pages.

im not entirely sure, but i think thats what tierce meant in this post (day 1)

Tierce:
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In post 128, Majiffy wrote:

In post 126, inte wrote:?

reason now


Same reason I was voting you. I think you're going to be an annoying troll, and annoying trolls should be disposed of.


Yo inte.

If I die tonight, explain tomorrow what you were doing here, then lynch this guy. He wants to lynch for the sake of lynching, not for figuring out your alignment.


if you still think i'm scum right now, you're not only letting town down, but tierce especially :p
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:42 am

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GreyICE wrote:If you're vanilla, how did you change everyone's position?



cause im ur captain u silly goose. i got the pogo stick when the game began
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:43 am

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now that i realize it, you guys could of asked me hypotheticals and i could of answered them using the position change LOL

oh jeez i think i played this game the wrong way
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:46 am

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Vote count
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(1) BBmolla – inte

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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:49 am

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Dazzy's up next. Let's hope he doesn't disappear for a week again. -.-
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:58 am

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Hmmmm.

Nah, this can wait until after mass claim.

Everyone should unvote though.
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:06 am

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