Mini 1313: Blood Bowl Mafia (Game over)

[Glork]

Oh, right, Yates. Fucking fuck.


Let's wait for those last claims before we start naming names.

Vote count

(7 players alive = 4 to lynch)

Not voting

: BBmolla, Dazzy, Glork, GreyICE, inte, PeregrineV, Yates

Deadline

: Tuesday 24 April 16:00 CET

[inte]

I assume molla is the SK cause your invest reveals troll instead of gobbo, which we know for sure is the race of scum because of slandaar's flip

It's only speculation tho

You mean.

Slandaar's

Godfather flip

And he claimed RACE COP?

That's why Glork's claim is 98% believable (the 2% is literally from the fact he's good enough to fake this, anyone else in this game would be 100%).

Slaandar flipped

Gobbo GODFATHER

A race cop makes perfect sense if the Godfather is the same race as everyone else.

I, however, want BBMolla's claim.

HOLD THIS SHIT. If you knew that your race was troll, wouldn't this be the bets time to announce it? No where have you even shed doubt on the fact that troll could be pro-town.

Only logical conclusion is that you're making shit up.

You still haven't made a claim either

[BBmolla]

You could play the game of mafia!

What in all of creation would make you think I'm scum with BBMolla? ANYTHING?!?

And moreover, why would I defend a serial killer as scum? Yeah, that's smart. Defend the guy whose probably bulletproof and I need lynched AND claim scum so he can know exactly who to shoot if he needs to crosskill.

Why would I claim this as his scumbuddy?

Mainly this Glork. That makes zero sense and you know it.

[inte]

You could play the game of mafia!

What in all of creation would make you think I'm scum with BBMolla? ANYTHING?!?

And moreover, why would I defend a serial killer as scum? Yeah, that's smart. Defend the guy whose probably bulletproof and I need lynched AND claim scum so he can know exactly who to shoot if he needs to crosskill.

Why would I claim this as his scumbuddy?

Mainly this Glork. That makes zero sense and you know it.

So you've moved past trying to defend yourself and now are trying to save your buddy. Point noted.

[BBmolla]

You could play the game of mafia!

What in all of creation would make you think I'm scum with BBMolla? ANYTHING?!?

And moreover, why would I defend a serial killer as scum? Yeah, that's smart. Defend the guy whose probably bulletproof and I need lynched AND claim scum so he can know exactly who to shoot if he needs to crosskill.

Why would I claim this as his scumbuddy?

Mainly this Glork. That makes zero sense and you know it.

So you've moved past trying to defend yourself and now are trying to save your buddy. Point noted.

inte why would he claim to defend me if I was his buddy instead of bussing me for town cred.

[Dazzy]

I can switch myself. All I have time for right now.

[inte]

You could play the game of mafia!

What in all of creation would make you think I'm scum with BBMolla? ANYTHING?!?

And moreover, why would I defend a serial killer as scum? Yeah, that's smart. Defend the guy whose probably bulletproof and I need lynched AND claim scum so he can know exactly who to shoot if he needs to crosskill.

Why would I claim this as his scumbuddy?

Mainly this Glork. That makes zero sense and you know it.

So you've moved past trying to defend yourself and now are trying to save your buddy. Point noted.

inte why would he claim to defend me if I was his buddy instead of bussing me for town cred.

occam's razor. im not delving into WIFOM

im going to assume our only investigative role is in fact a sane cop

[Glork]

I am. I just think that Troll is a protown race right now.

[inte]

ok so:

dazzy is confirmed town
glork is confirmed town
(from my POV) i am confirmed town

we're going to have to accept cross vigs from glork and grey if bbmolla flips scum and not sk. its too wifom-y to leave greyice

or i mean glork could flip a coin again, w/e would be cool

still no claim from GreyIce, even after demanding one from others

i can see myself getting killed tonight, meh. PV hasn't been in-game and the fact that Yates is either lying about his position, or the mod made a mistake is still in the air.

that being said, if i die tonight, grey really would need to be re-evaluated

he already made the statement that he is going to use his vig on someone, and if scum don't target him, they are dumb as shit

we're just going to have to see how many deaths are coming tomorrow to really see what will happen

[inte]

I am. I just think that Troll is a protown race right now.

so then what was the point at all of your role. THE ONLY INVESTIGATIVE ROLE.

out of at least 8 townies, we have 3 PR's. busdriver, "race" cop, and delayed day vig.

if we assume troll = pro-town, then that puts us to 10 pro-town players, with 3 left to be scum or sk

heres a list view because i suck at explaining with words:

Alive:

Dazzy - town
Yates - plausible scum/sk
Glork - town
inte -town
GreyICE - presumed town
PeregrineV - plausible scum/sk
BBmolla - presumed town

Dead:

kondi2424 - town
Majiffy - town
Pappums rat - town
Slandaar -godfather
Tierce - town
Pizzadudes7 - town

i mean really??? 3 scum with two kills ?? don't even make sense. if this were to be true, what was the point of even having a race cop? we basically had 2 power roles then.

bbmolla is lynched and scum = greyice needs to be killed

its really as simple as that, don't let him try to game you

really. read Post 776 again and tell me what you would of done in that situation, knowing that he is also of troll race.

even if he honestly hadn't read his role PM before this (which is seriously dumbfuckistan territory by now, i mean really how would he even know if hes a power role or whathaveyou)

ANY

logical person would of checked their PM to make sure that your claim lined up.

[inte]

what i'm really trying to say is that town would be SEVERELY disadvantaged if your cop status doesn't actually do anything

[GreyICE]

Wow, it's like that's exactly what I did after the rush of 'omg I was right about BBMolla' ended.

And yes, I forgot I was a troll. It seriously seemed unimportant when I read it.

But I tell you what. You called bullshit on my vig status. I'll vig you tonight. How's that sound? Then if it's bullshit, welp.

[inte]

Nah man go ahead I believe people were naive enough to vote you for SPP

Still no claim from grey, only half assed omgus

I give no fucks if I die because from there it would be town win

[GreyICE]

It's like there's an order to this mass claim.

[inte]

If you're pro town you have nothing to hide at this point. Why not do it hole you're here

[Yates]

Can I claim or am I still waiting for PV?

Also, apologies to inte. I *am* catcher. I must have misread and sent a pm asking if "thrower" changed anything. Mod said no [didn't correct me, obv] so that's what stuck in my head. As far as I'm concerned, you check out as far as having the pogo stick.

Quick question: who says the pogo stick *has* to be in Town hands? Just a thought. I've never used a pogo stick before. I was in a beach ball game before where you were supposed to pass the ball around and I started with it. I was Town in that game but I don't know that the mechanics guarantee Town *has* to start with the ball.

If the pogo stick *has* to start in Town hands, obviously this leaves our Town heroes "Glork and GreyICE" unconfirmed and suspect.

[Yates]

Okay - we need to get on board the logic train.

1. Glork - what does your investigation return? Just Race?
1a. *If* Glork's investigation only returns race, *obviously* we found two more scum [BB and Grey]. Think about EVERY SINGLE MAFIA GAME YOU KNOW and tell me how that wouldn't be the case. The fact that the GF was a Gobo makes perfect sense since an investigator wouldn't be able to spot the GF.
1b. Anyone else notice that the two scummiest player reads are both Trolls? You were 1 or 2 votes away from lynching Grey's slot and all of a sudden he is a PR with all the same information mafia would have??

2. Today's lynch *has* to continue to be BB. Here's why:
2a. Lynching a claimed Gobo that flips Town doesn't reveal anything new
2b. Lynching a claimed TROLL that flips Town would clear GreyICE [or at least verify his race claim doesn't prevent him from being Town]
2c. Obviously, the Troll will flip scum which makes GreyIce scum which wins us the game
2d. BB is the obvious choice over GreyICE since GI claimed a PR. Congrats, you will live to see tomorrow then promptly be lynched.

3. Glork needs to NOT try his kill tonight when BB flips scum
3a. If you cant kill and block/dodge in the same night, you are being set up to be killed
3b. Losing 2 Townies in the same night [esp a PR] = Game Over
3c. Glork needs to investigate either me or PV tonight to verify our races since I imagine the SK will look guilty to an investigator as well
3d. What idiot came up with the idea of making Glork use his shot instead of a dodge anyway? Oh. Right. "My feeling is that the optimal strategy is for us both to fire tonight."

4. Here's how we verify 100% another Townie:
4a. Inte was correct about my position [I let that out early so it isn't critical info]
4b. In reverse order of our role reveals, we should all answer two questions:
. 4b1. Was Inte correct about your position?
. 4b2. What was your previous position?
4c. This may sound like overkill but this verifies Inte's claim *and* gives us another chance to catch a scum screw up

Guys, we have the time. We are 1 day away from end game. Let's get this right.

Nice job, Inte. You inadvertently game us a great tool for vetting everyone during mass claim. Also, thanks for making me a catcher. It's appropriate in that right about now I feel like Mario Manningham subbing in to the game and making that HUGE toe tap catch on the sidelines in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl. While it may not have won the game for us outright, this play will absolutely set us up for the win. We just need to finish it out.

[Yates]

gave us - not game us

You inadvertently

gave

us a great tool for vetting everyone during mass claim.

[Johoohno]

Vote count

(7 players alive = 4 to lynch)

Not voting

: BBmolla, Dazzy, Glork, GreyICE, inte, PeregrineV, Yates

Deadline

: Tuesday 24 April 16:00 CET

[Yates]

I would like to take this time to officially

Vote: BBmolla

This way, you can hold me responsible for driving this bus if you need to. It also shows that I am buying in to my own plan. Everyone else should follow through on 791 point 4b before voting.

[inte]

Like lying about mod info like that is illegal right.

w/e we have a cop

[inte]

There is no way for us to verify what their position was before I switched it

[Yates]

There is no way for us to verify what their position was before I switched it

Yes there is...

Not in our best interests to reveal that info until after everyone has claimed.

[Glork]

Yates, inte having the pogo stick is common knowledge. It's in, like, the opening scene. He's claimed to be a Vanilla Townie, and he happened to get the pogo stick. There's no way he's lying about the pogo stick / captain / position switching thing because it's essentially mod-confirmed.

[Yates]

No crap. That's why I dropped that argument after thinking it through. I kind of talked myself out of it while making the argument viz a viz my own experience with the beach ball. Pretend post 790 doesn't exist. Post 791 is the actual case I am presenting. Look at post 791 and tell me where I am making a mistake because to me, this makes perfect sense and wins us the game.