Open 387: Jungle Republic (Day 6 - ends in a Town Victory)

[kondi2424]

Yes I was. I thought about what both the Mafia's and the Werewolves' answers to #6 would be, and determined that vijay was likely a member of the Mafia and TheX was likely a member of the Werewolves. And you attacked that by saying that I was "too careful" and payed close attention to the setup.

By the way, I've been in this setup before.

[asher1611]

You were not being logical.

Incorrect. I was answering the question asked. The question was who I think wins. My answer was town. My reasoning was because one scum faction, the mafia, does not have a night kill. There is no logical flaw in the statement. Your leaps of logic and lack of reading comprehension, on the other hand, could use some serious work.

For someone who said RSQ is useless you're certainly building a mountain out of it.

[Slandaar]

you were too careful in answering the questions not to do with setup. You clearly had put thought into the questions and how they could trip people up. Vijay things pretty null the #6 not answering is pretty null so not logical no.

asher... there is no logical flaw in the statement no. But it does seem to lack taking into account the wolf kill. Which means you are likely maf. that quote was not aimed @ you.

[kondi2424]

So how could ANY of my answers be used to trip people up? Give me an example.

[Slandaar]

its simple

You thought about the questions in depth. This is because you were being cautious. You were being cautious because you are worried of being caught.

This line of reasoning makes the most sense

[kondi2424]

That's BS. Look at my winrate as scum. Do you seriously think I'd be worried about being caught in a fucking RQS?

[vijay2vasandani]

^ what kind of defense is that?

Also kondi, what about my line of reasoning? You say I must be mafia because I only mentioned mafia, yet I say that the site normally only has mafia, so since you were able to mention werewolves you must be one of them.

However the fact that you've played this setup before givrs that assertation less weight.

[kondi2424]

1. A good one.

2. You are mafia for only mentioning mafia, because it shows that you didn't look at the setup and see that there were Werewolves. Yet, if you didn't look at the setup, how would you know that there were three Mafia? You would have to be Mafia to know that without knowing the setup. Nonetheless, even if it wasn't a slip, it clears you from being a Werewolf.

I DID know the setup, so I knew there were Mafia and Werewolves.

[vijay2vasandani]

Okay, I can see where you're coming from. However, I saw scum and 12 players so I assumed 3 mafia straight away.

I still like my vote atm.

[kondi2424]

Explain?

[vijay2vasandani]

My vote? I agree with Slandaar's assessment of the situation.

Kondi have you played with shotgun before?

[kondi2424]

Yuh. I was scum and he was town. It wen't rather smoothly for me.

[vijay2vasandani]

Game number please. You're really good at scum aren't you? X.X I need to pick your brain on how to play as scum in the near future.

[kondi2424]

Open 386. Note that I had to keep Kassadin alive as well.

[drmyshotgun]

It's interesting how everybody here seems to be good at math. Sorry I just had to point it out.

Shotgun: I understand the point of some of these questions, but what is with some of them? Like the apple ones and stuff? they're amusing but not really useful from what I can see it.

Said I like tangents, plus they make questions look easy and relaxing thus you can see the people's different reactions in more serious questions.

[Kassadin]

@Kondi - Actually, the 1st post u did in the game immediately triggered that u are scum actually.
it was so obvious u were scum and no u didnt keep me alive actually
u were in trouble the most

[drmyshotgun]

Lots of interesting things guys! Keep this up!

Spoiler:

I generally like iDanyboy's answers to my RQS. Most give Town-vibe from him, but I find something strange.
Answers to questions #3 #4 #11 seem to give inconsistency that looks rather deliberate.
With #3, he wants to be Werewolf cuz they get kills and he hasnt played them before (#10 says he only played once so that is rather obvious).
With #4, he wants to be Townie (not scum) because Seer cannot detect Mafias. Looks like he feels obliged to answer Town-sided role instead of scums.
And in #11, he thinks Mafia will win because Seer cannot detect them. Me thinks he is deliberately saying Mafia will win because he IS a mafia and just putting it out there would make him look less suspicious. Remember, Occam's Razor. He thinks Mafia will win because he IS a mafia?
With everyone else saying Town, the only answer that stands out is iDanyboy's
These answers show him spreading out his favor to all the sides in this game.
I think iDanyboy is likely to be a Mafia.
(Find out more by looking at his post, which is quite big for my taste, which is Post #30)

RQS is over

No more RQS its not doing anything
its filling the thread with junk and making people look like they are contributing when they are not.

Vote Dr this is the most antitown thing he has started.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bag

Scum found.

See how easy that was. RQS is useless.

You say my RQS is anti-Town, but here, you find your so-called "Scum" on the basis of his reaction to my RQS.

Slaandar, here's an example: LBJ, Kassadin, and Bag got scumpoints for not answering the important question (#6), and vijay/TheX got major scumpoints for answering it in only one team's viewpoint.

And what about Slandaar? Who hasn't answered at all?
And what about iDanyboy? Who also said no-one?

that wat u always say slandaar

What did he say? Enlighten me.

Thanks for the contribution, Norman.

Whos norman?

Norman is your alt.
But seriously, is that all you are going to say? A thank you for someone who voted you and then just go away?
How about the very interesting conversations Slandaar is making?
Or are you scared that talking about things that is not directed at you specifically will blow your cover?
Defensive style of play...Don't really like it. Possible scum.

11. Who do you think will win this game?
Town due to the night kill restriction on mafia.

I Didnt realise mafia dont have a nk... I assumed both did.

I checked and lo and behold they dont. But Wolves do...

Its funny, he thinks town win because mafia have kill restriction but does not account for the wolf kill this is important because

it shows he did not read the front page

he realised maf didnt have kill because he is one.

He is pesimistic scum.

I could say the same about you not realizing mafia didn't have a NK. Or was that info you were hoping to slip by the town's attention?

I didn't think I had to recite the whole rule post in a full sentence answer.

See how easy that was. RQS is useless.

Oh wait, this is you in your own words. So you're just trying to drum up noise and point the finger at whoever is most convenient. I see.

FOS Slandaar

Good comeback by Asher. Starting to think him as Town. Next time, try

bolding

your

FoS

Also notice Slandaar's manic jumps across the entire game. Establishing several suspects is good, but voting all of them looks quite pointless.

That's actually a great point. VOTE: asher

Why do you keep calling asher scum but keep your vote on me?

I Didnt realise mafia dont have a nk... I assumed both did.

It's been mentioned in-thread. Several times, I believe.

Looks a lot like an opportunistic move for you Kondi. Also trying to get the attention away?

its simple

You thought about the questions in depth. This is because you were being cautious. You were being cautious because you are worried of being caught.

This line of reasoning makes the most sense

That's BS. Look at my winrate as scum. Do you seriously think I'd be worried about being caught in a fucking RQS?

Oh, its a "fucking RQS" now? D:
yeah the cautious-ness and using that cautious-ness look suspicious indeed.

So yeah...

FoS: Kondi, LBJ

VOTE: iDanyboy

[drmyshotgun]

Also, Chrimi and CommieX better get their asses in here quick before they just lose complete idea of what's going on.

@mod: Request to prod Chrimi and CommieX

[Slandaar]

That's BS. Look at my winrate as scum. Do you seriously think I'd be worried about being caught in a fucking RQS?

lol

look at your winrate as town

Would you put so much thought into the questions as town as you did here?

[kondi2424]

@shotgun: I'm using "fucking RQS" in a sense where, since I already knew how it could be used to find scum (#6), I wouldn't have to be cautious about anything.

@Slandaar: I don't just go "herp derp let's lurk idgaf" as town. Most of those games are games with people like mcqueen and the like, tyvm.

[Slandaar]

so what was the point in your post?

surely scum games involve 'players like mcqueen' too?

[kondi2424]

Yeah, but I can work with that if I know their alignments. If I'm sitting in a town where there's a mcqueen and a Pizzadudes who I can't read and are going to be useless but a few people go "THAT'S A PL GTFO" then there's a problem. But, on the other hand, there are so many useful ways you could bus/buddy that player as scum, which makes them golden.

[Slandaar]

you are blaming townlosses on others lack of scumhunting prowess
you are not including their lack of scumhunting prowess into why you win as scum

Not that it makes you scum but your arguments really bad. And not going to help you.

[kondi2424]

I'm blaming townlosses on people who literally do nothing. Those people are USEFUL when I'm scum, as either alignment.

[Ravel]

Also, Chrimi and CommieX better get their asses in here quick before they just lose complete idea of what's going on.

@mod: Request to prod Chrimi and CommieX

CommieX hasn't been on for a week, so I will seek replacement for him now.
However, I'll give Chrimi 24 more hours since he was on 3 days ago. If he doesn't show up, then I'll find a replacement for him also.