Mini 1313: Blood Bowl Mafia (Game over)

[Yates]

....two trolls...
...useful to team...

I am literally blown away by the stupidity of this statement. Are you allowed to internet without parental supervision?

Vote count

(7 players alive = 4 to lynch)

(1) BBmolla - Yates

Not voting

: BBmolla, Dazzy, Glork, GreyICE, inte, PeregrineV

Deadline

: Tuesday 24 April 16:00 CET

[Yates]

Yates, sadly I have a town read on you...

Well of course you do. You know who your scum partner is.

[Glork]

....two trolls...
...useful to team...

I am literally blown away by the stupidity of this statement. Are you allowed to internet without parental supervision?

Son, you've been on MafiaScum for almost six months. I've been here for over six years. Poor trolling really isn't going to convince me that you're protown here. Why don't you go actually build a complete case on the people you want me to vote for?

[GreyICE]

Yeah, I'm tired of this shit

1) Fart the Flatulent
2) 1-shot reflexive roleblocker (I can roleblock everyone who targets me once per game). Flavor is a cloud of... well, Fart the Flatulent. You work it out
3) Troll
4) Thrower>Blitzer
5) Used reflexive roleblocker N2.
6) Nominated Glork night 1, nominated no one night 2 (I wanted it).

There is a breadcrumb of the reflexive roleblocker ability, it's not too subtle (or at least it's not supposed to be)

[Glork]

Is the block flavor sent to everyone who targeted you?

[GreyICE]

Doesnt say it is, but I can ask. Did you catch my breadcrumb, or do I need to be more obvious?

[Glork]

Go ahead and ask. It can't hurt.

I haven't gone back to look for crumbs. Aside from the telling us to MVP vote you and not to worry about it. I assumed that if you were protown, you had a way of protecting yourself last night.

[BBmolla]

....two trolls...
...useful to team...

I am literally blown away by the stupidity of this statement. Are you allowed to internet without parental supervision?

...Why is this so stupid considering it matches the current situation?
"Your good logic is dumb and you're dumb let me belittle you."
No.

[Glork]

BB, who do you think we should lynch? Why are they scum? What behavior posts/actions have they done that makes them likely to be scum?

[BBmolla]

BB, who do you think we should lynch? Why are they scum? What behavior posts/actions have they done that makes them likely to be scum?

Grey is probably town. Had he somehow been a scum troll, I highly doubt he'd have claimed to save me, that makes no sense.

You're town.

Honestly I'd like to lynch one of Yates/Peregrine. I have a hard time reading Peregrine because he lurks in most his games unfortunately. His random Slandaar vote concerns the hell out of me, because in his ISO it looks like a bus because of how it played out. Focus switched from Ghostlin to Slandaar in an instant. It bothers me. On the other hand, Ghostlin seemed scummy to me prior to replacing out, and Yates is only making things worse. His recent post especially reads as trying to push a mislynch or two. I'd like to see more from Peregrine, because while I feel Yates is scummier at the moment, it's mainly because I haven't seen

anything

recently from Peregrine.

Dazzy is probably my most solid townread besides Grey/Glork. His small number of posts may look concerning, but if you actually read what he's said, his content is pretty solid.

Despite him being ridiculous, I believe Inte is town. He's often very confrontational like he is in this game, while Inte-Scum is more laid back and trying to go with the flow.

[inte]

We are lynching BB today there is no stopping it at all.

We NEED his flip to at the very least confirm greyice's alignment

[Dazzy]

I need PV's claim to be sure of something. PV, when you do claim, please follow Glork's outline.

@BB, according to the above post, if your reads are correct, the game-state stands at 5:1:1. Is this where you think we are? If not, who else is not a townie?

OK - An outline of my reads:
Grey - Besides that paranoid blip where I thought Grey/Tierce were groupscum, Grey and his slot have been among my town reads. In fact, one of my biggest hesitations when looking at that theory was that Grey didn't seem scummy to me. Before him, Malee's excuse for not posting seemed a bit extreme for a mafia member to use as a reason for lurking. While I do believe he could very easily outplay me, my logic and gut is saying he's town.

Glork - Has been a town read all game. Someone tried to kill him N1, and I believe it was the mafia. He's been a positive presence throughout and methinks he is town. Nuff said.

tebow/Stefan/BB - I've personally liked BB's posting since he came in. Before him, Stefan didn't set off any real alarms. His race-link to Grey enhances my town read by association.

Ghost/Yates - I've always had issues reading Ghost. This game, however, I saw a side of him I haven't seen before - a bit more rushed, less cold logic, more emotional. That in itself sets off alarms. Then the disappearing act had me thinking lurking scum, but looks like it was site-wide, so no real conclusions there. Yates came in and hasn't really made me reconsider the slot as being very towny. The continued belligerence in the face of possible flavour influence irks me and nudges me in the direction of scum who knows they're in trouble.

The ones below I've had a lot of trouble reading this game. I'll have more to say on them in my next post.
PV - A resounding Null almost the whole game. PoE makes him scum or SK.

Inte - This playstyle is very hard for me to read. I've been going back and forth on inte's alignment from the start of D2. Of the three players highest on my scumcharts, Inte is probably most town.

Like I said, I'll have some more to say after PV claims. I'd like to get everything in front of me before making any more assumptions based on incomplete info.

[Glork]

It seems to me that inte/Yates have every intention of

And BB/Grey are dead set on lynching... idk. Inte or Yates or PV. I don't even know if they can come to a consensus right now.


Meanwhile, Dazzy (obvtown) and me (obvtown) are sitting here trying to get this all sorted out, while PV is lurking his way through the game.


This is pretty retarded. I want to start seeing arguments that are

based on observation and analysis of Days 1 and 2, not "Troll is town!" "NO U DUM TROLL IS SCUM" "NO U DUMMER I GONNA MAKE FN OF U IN ENDGAME!"

That's not how we win games, people, but it is a great way to lose.

[Dazzy]

We are lynching BB today there is no stopping it at all.

We NEED his flip to at the very least confirm greyice's alignment

Not taking this off the table.

[Dazzy]

Glork you have a sentence chopped there

[BBmolla]

@BB, according to the above post, if your reads are correct, the game-state stands at 5:1:1. Is this where you think we are? If not, who else is not a townie?

Is 4:2:1 a more likely assumption? I donno, in general theme games have 10:3, so I just kind of assumed it'd be 10:2:1.

If there are three scum left, I've probably misread either Dazzy or Inte.

We are lynching BB today there is no stopping it at all.

We NEED his flip to at the very least confirm greyice's alignment

...And I gotta tell you, I'm liking Dazzy's recent posts a lot more than Inte's.

If it is 4:2:1, lynching me means we probably lose or at least go to an awkward kingmaker situation. You are aware of that right?

[inte]

If I have time I'll tell you a couple of reasons why grey has been rubbing me the wrong way.

Also, v/la over the weekend

[inte]

Also also,

Lynch bb -> if town we have 3 conf. town, not including

Grey shoots at random {PV, Yates,}

It's for sure that those two would be scum/SK

Lynch bb -> if scum we have two conf. town, not including me

We vote glork for SPP, he protects himself, lynch grey

Then we do more scumhunting from there. It would be literally impossible to lose if we lynch one by one and only nominate glork

Seeing as dazzy can protect himself for sure

? Thoughts glork? Remember scum can't nominate and any sane individual would only nom you

This would only be fucked if glork happens to be scum, but at this stage I really don't give a shit

[Dazzy]

My opinions just changed. New info/a revelation have me reconsidering a lot of stuff. I still want PV's claim before anything.

NO VOTES ARE TO BE MADE

Yates I'd appreciate an unvote just for a bit.

[Glork]

Glork you have a sentence chopped there

Oh, hey, you're right. EVery intention of trying to lynch GreyICE today.

This is what I get for talking in scumchat, watching television, setting up an Ohio Meet thread, and trying to respond to this game all at the same time.


Bedtime. Night, folks.

[Yates]

[Yates has] EVery intention of trying to lynch GreyICE today.

And the stupidity continues...

2.

Today's lynch *has* to continue to be BB

. Here's why:
2a. Lynching a claimed Gobo that flips Town doesn't reveal anything new
2b. Lynching a claimed TROLL that flips Town would clear GreyICE [or at least verify his race claim doesn't prevent him from being Town]
2c. Obviously, the Troll will flip scum which makes GreyIce scum which wins us the game
2d.

BB is the obvious choice over GreyICE

since GI claimed a PR. Congrats, you will live to see tomorrow then promptly be lynched.

I would like to take this time to officially

Vote: BBmolla

But please, don't let facts get in the way of this fantasy world of delicious flavors you are currently living in where logic tastes like purple.

Why don't you go actually build a complete case on the people you want me to vote for?

Reading
Is

Fun

damental.

[Yates]

@Glork and Glork only:

1. You have said that your role is as a race cop. Is this a true statement?
2. You have said that your investigations return *only* race. Is this a true statement?

Assuming points one and two are correct, please explain to me what you think the significance of these returns are. I am clearly a moron because I have only been on this site for 6 months and these games are - like -

totally

confusing and stuff. So please spell it out so even a simpleton like me can understand what is happening in this game.

[Glork]

Yates: Apologies, I merely types the wrong name. However, BBscum strongly implies Greyscum, which is why I got them mixed up when I was typing.

Yates, I've already answered everything you're asking. I am currently inclined to believe that trolls are a protown race, and that the scums are demons/beasts/mutants, etc., based on the flavor I've read about Blood Bowl's goblin and Nurgle teams.


That said, inte's plan sounds entirely sensible. I'm going to have to set aside some serious time to devote to re-reading this game, and just figure all of this out. Because right now, I feel like I could swing in either direction.




Still waiting on PV to deliver a claim. Regardless of the BB-Grey/inte-Yates situation, PV does not look good right now. If it's 3+SK, the SK could very well be PV. :/

[Yates]

Regardless of the BB-Grey/inte-Yates situation, PV does not look good right now.

If it's 3+SK, the SK could very well be PV.

:/

This is a statement that I can back you up on.

Also, going with "inte's plan" is absolutely the right thing to do. We simply *have* to lynch BB to find out what he flips. The only reason GreyICE could conceivably oppose this plan is if he is afraid [knows] BB is going to flip scum. Obviously, if [when] BB flips scum, we have just caught his scum buddy. This is what I've been trying to say this entire day. The only way to get NEW information is to do something DIFFERENT. You guys haven't lynched a Troll yet and a Troll hasn't been NK-ed. If it turns out I'm wrong and the Troll is Town, I will literally eat my hat and post the video on youtube.

[Yates]

Also, Glork, you will probably need to use a dodge tonight. You were being set up to be killed. I'll give you my MVP vote so you can keep dodging for as long as necessary.

If I were you, I'd either investigate Yates [I'm perfectly content with being cleared by cop] or PV since we were the last two to roleclaim.
You already know GreyICE will return Troll so that would be a waste.
Inte is conf Town at this point so that would also be a waste.
Dazzy is conf Town at this point as well so that would also be a waste.