Open 385 - No Lynching Town - GAME OVER

[Metabot]

Ordering by quote:
1.) Since its true, its the only answer you'll get.
2/3/4) First of all, no need to be so fluffy. All of this is essential about the same thing. I was reactiontesting, being somewhat scummy and seeing who would jump on me. In my experience, I've always been the guy scum jumps on, especially early game. (why I was asking if you're vote were RVS or not) They criticize my comments on my meta, jump on some weird behavior, comment on how I'm "trying to be towny." Boring and predictable. No wagon really materialized this time though...

And I have no idea what "reason" you're referring to. The reason why you commented on me doing that? Probably because you found it weird.

Also, you're going to have to explain yourself in response to AcRv's recent post.

[drmyshotgun]

lalalalala
LALALALALA
YOU MAKE ME FEEL SO

What. The. Hell. Is. This.

I agree.
Sleepy did page 4 and he still has like, what, 4 more full pages? He didn't even get into the recent disputes.
Hope he shows his analysis on other pages quickly as well. If he is Town, he'll be very perceptive on his viewpoints on what was going on.
If he's scum, then, he'd have a lot of time to think about who to frame and is likely to show tunnel view on someone.
So far he kept arguing that Andrew is likely scum in the game.
However, that was only up to page 4, so unless he has read the entire game and still thinks Andrew is scum, his reasoning is not valid.

Ordering by quote:
1.) Since its true, its the only answer you'll get.
2/3/4) First of all, no need to be so fluffy. All of this is essential about the same thing. I was reactiontesting, being somewhat scummy and seeing who would jump on me. In my experience, I've always been the guy scum jumps on, especially early game. (why I was asking if you're vote were RVS or not) They criticize my comments on my meta, jump on some weird behavior, comment on how I'm "trying to be towny." Boring and predictable. No wagon really materialized this time though...

And I have no idea what "reason" you're referring to. The reason why you commented on me doing that? Probably because you found it weird.

Also, you're going to have to explain yourself in response to AcRv's recent post.

To gain what for yourself, sir? Why do you feel the need for Sleepy to explain himself in response to AcRv's post when he has yet to give his analysis on 4 more pages?
What can you achieve through him "explaining" himself?
So you think people who jump on you for your meta are scum. Don't you think Towns can jump on them too?
Removing someone who justifies his future scummy behaviours before he actually does scummy actions will help town avoid confusions etc.
Of course in this game Policy Lynch doesn't work, but as the game progressed on, I find Meta more and more sure-fire scum.

[andrew94]

doing my coursework so not much time, but i wanna say meta and shotgun still look scum to me

[AcRv]

vote someone for being useless? That sounds an awful lot like a policy lynch. In a game where lynching a town does nothing. Great work there.

Umm no
I was saying that his uselessness was scummy
sposed to lynch scum

How was his uselessness any different to Vincent2128's uselessness?

Woah, so you're experienced? Then why did you put a serious vote on someone for being useless in a game where they wouldn't get lynched? And let's say that the lynch did go ahead. Now, if what you're saying is true, we'd have a useless confirmed town that would be wasting a spot because scum wouldn't waste their kill on him.So basically you wanted us to waste our lynch straight away. Great thing to hear from the most experienced player...

Or maybe because I think he's scum[/quote]
Again, why didn't you think the same of the other player who had what you said was a useless first post? And how can you think someone is scum from one post looking like this:

First, let's get this straight. I am NOT Drmyshottyizsik. I made a grave mistake in making my ID sound like his and this resulted in truly unfortunate situation for me.
I am drmyshotgun, and have nothing to do with [Shotty].
I don't mind people addressing me as "Shotty", but I do mind when people start treating me like I'm the biggest troll in the world.
That said, let me ask some questions to everybody to answer:

1. Apple or Chocolate?
2. Avatar or The Dark Knight?
3. Where do you live?
4. What's the meaning of your ID?
5. Maths or English?
6. What's your favorite color?
7. What were you doing during the period where Mafiascum crashed?
8. Vigilante or Serial Killer?


My answers:
1. Chocolate, natch
2. The Dark Knight. Nolan FTW
3. Somewhere in Oceania
4. Followed someone who I thought was funny. Turns out: Everyone kinda hates him in some way or the other. I'm not him.
5. Both will do for me.
6. Sky Blue
7. Nothing. Was going on with my life.
8. Vigilante. That is, if I can choose.

AcRv, I've met in some other game. Hi AcRv!

Oh, wait, I see now!

First, let's get this straight.

I

am NOT Drmyshottyizsik. I m

a

de a grave

m

istake in making my ID

s

ound like his and this resulted in truly unfortunate situation for me.
I am drmyshotgun, and have nothing to do with [Shotty].
I don't mind people addressing me as "Shotty", but I do mind when people start treating me like I'm the biggest troll in the world.
That said, let me ask some questions to everybody to answer:

1. Apple or Cho

c

olate?
2. Avatar or The Dark Knight?
3. Where do yo

u

live?
4. What's the meaning of your ID?
5. Maths or English?
6. What's your favorite color?
7. What were you doing during the period where Mafiascu

m

crashed?
8. Vigilante or Serial Killer?

I can't believe you picked up on that breadcrumbing, congratulations there, you have the best eyes in the world.

Before someone takes me seriously, that was in fact sarcasm...

[AcRv]

Oh, and how is doing it one page at a time beneficial this close to deadline? Really dude, give us a wall! Unless you're stalling for deadline so you can get away with a no lynch without confirming a town in the process.

You know, Vincent's probably town. SleepyKrew is stalling and multiple players have said they'd go lynch Vincent for a deadline Lynch. And with SleepyKrew lurking to deadline, Vincent will probably get lynched. So I say we all kill the lurking scum who made a (genuinely) good attempt at buddying Vincent2128.

[Packbat]

Agreed - if SleepyKrew is scum, the worst thing we can do is let him get away with stalling.

UNVOTE: Metabot

VOTE: SleepyKrew

[AcRv]

Guys, deadline is two days away. We need a lynch ASAP. The most logical lynch is the guy who's been stalling and buddying all game.

Do the right thing, and vote SleepyKrew in 2012.

[Junpei]

Vote Count 1.7

drmyshotgun (

L-2

):andrew94, Metabot
SleepyKrew (L-2): AcRv, Packbat
Metabot (L-3): drmyshotgun

Not Voting

:Vincent2128, SleepyKrew

With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch, and 4 to no lynch.

Deadline

: Saturday April 7th, 2012 ; 6 PM EST

V/LAs

: Vincent2128 March 31 - April 11

Replacements

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Other

:I'm sure something interesting to write will happen in the next few hours, so I'll write this then.[/url]

[AcRv]

@mod: SleepyKrew is also at L-2

[drmyshotgun]

Guys, deadline is two days away. We need a lynch ASAP. The most logical lynch is the guy who's been stalling and buddying all game.

Do the right thing, and vote SleepyKrew in 2012.

Unvote

You are right... Time is indeed running out and it doesn't seem likely that AcRv is going to change his vote.
VOTE: SleepyKrew
Sleepy has been delaying the game more than enough already.
As an active lurker, he is being more useless than Vincent who is on V/La.
And in his uselessness towards Town's activities, he looks greatly possible scum candidate.
Lynching him would surely benefit the Town.
Even if he flips Town (which is not likely), it does not look likely that he survives Day 1 and start contributing Day 2.
All of us are fed up with him (I expected more from someone so "experienced"), and removing him would ultimately benefit Town's interests.

[AcRv]

Has anyone else looked at the "Who's online" thing at the bottom of the main page? SleepyKrew's been on for the past four hours...

[Metabot]

Not sure about the lynch.

No one is allowed to hammer. Don't hammer, there's still things to be done.

Andrew/Vincent: do not vote yet, but tell me your stance on the sleepy wagon. One of you two is probably going to be the one who hammers.

[Packbat]

Andrew/Vincent: do not vote yet, but tell me your stance on the sleepy wagon. One of you two is probably going to be the one who hammers.

Are you expressing your intent to

not hammer?

Because unless we lynch someone else or SleepyKrew self-hammers, andrew94 and Vincent2128 are the

only two players

in a position to hammer.

[Packbat]

Besides yourself.

[andrew94]

vincent is away, he can just say that and never hammer, I have a feeling meta is scum with shotgun, so if thats true, he wouldnt hammer either, so its just me left.

I want to make a case on meta+ shotgun or acrv+ shotgun, but i also have a feeling u guys dont agree

[Packbat]

Make a case. I'm listening, at least.

[drmyshotgun]

No way Vincent's gonna come in suddenly and hammer. His V/La goes up to April 11th.
Deadline? 7th of April.
It's just Andrew and Metabot.
If Sleepy is scum, his partner will just stay put and the person who hammers would be the final Town in this wagon.
If Vincent is the other scum, then all of the people who are speaking is Town, and we are just beating around the bush.

[andrew94]

shotgun, what if sleepy is town.

[andrew94]

The case:

Shotgun and Meta, as i have explained before
that big post that shotgun posted when he was at L1, he was like super distancing from Metabot
acrv: he has always just said it was sleepy+vincent, with logic that i can understand, but it might be that he is drawing attention from shotgun

so i think shotgun is scum, that means either meta or acrv is partner, that prob means sleepy is town from POE (even though hes useless and shit)

[drmyshotgun]

shotgun, what if sleepy is town.

How the fuck should you know this????
Are you SCUM??
Do you know other people's alignments???
If Sleepy is Town, I'm going to guess that you are Scum with Metabot.
Gonna go dig deeper on you Andrew.

[andrew94]

No way Vincent's gonna come in suddenly and hammer. His V/La goes up to April 11th.
Deadline? 7th of April.
It's just Andrew and Metabot.
If Sleepy is scum, his partner will just stay put and the person who hammers would be the final Town in this wagon.
If Vincent is the other scum, then all of the people who are speaking is Town, and we are just beating around the bush.

i was responding to your this post. you only said is sleepy is scum..

your undue reaction is noted

[AcRv]

acrv: he has always just said it was sleepy+vincent, with logic that i can understand, but it might be that he is drawing attention from shotgun

Only with SleepyKrew lurking to a deadline and putting Vincent at risk I doubt a scum player would get their buddy lynched that way... I'm more enclined to think that SleepyKrew's been buddying Vincent2128 since that thought crossed my mind. And you say I've been going on about them. Well I was going on about SleepyKrew because he was acting differently to Vincent2128 throughout the ENTIRE game. The only time he addressed him like everyone else was when he asked everyone questions in a spoiler tab. Town have no reason to make someone different, he only would have done that if he were scum buddying him, or an inexperienced scum. He said that he was experienced, so he wouldn't have made all those mistakes if they were buddies. Which makes it somewhat more apparent that it was buddying.

Tell me why a town-aligned player would buddy someone so heavily like that.

[AcRv]

But, good to see that you do have your own thoughts. Makes me think you're somewhat townie... because if you were scum you'd've just gone with it and ended the day.

[andrew94]

what? im saying YOU might be drawing attention from shotgun, by putting the sleepy and vincent pair

[AcRv]

I know. I'm saying that SleepyKrew is scum, and as you can see there's no valid defence for him AT ALL. So, with him as scum, you're saying I'm drawing attention away from drmyshotgun.

So you're saying I'm trying to defend my buddy... by getting my other buddy lynched? In a game with a two-man scum team?

If you can give reasons for why SleepyKrew is town, then I would see some weight in your case. But with SleepyKrew being THAT scummy, then he's scum. So I can't be drawing attention from my buddy because that would require a three man scum team.

If

SleepyKrew flips town, then your case will hold weight, and I will be raging so hard at SleepyKrew for being so anti-town.