Mini 1320--Redwall Mafia: Spirit Lore (The Sun Has Set)


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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:44 pm

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What did you learn about V2V from the pappums' vote?
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:51 pm

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Naw, I wouldn't have done this if I hadn't resigned myself to death. I just find it weird that no one else has asked, as you say a claim 'could be viewed' as a way to change the reigns of the wagon. In my mind, scum would avoid asking for it in order to prevent that from happening.

I have been in many a theme game where i ended it based off the theme itself, see Clerks or Fire Emblem for instance. And I know enough about the lore that I do regret not getting to see how a massclaim might have worked out. Man that would have been fun times.

I'm Abbess Germaine by the way. Doubt I would have actually done anything with my X-Shots anyway. I suck when given too many choices ;_;

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Jun wrote:What did you learn about V2V from the pappums' vote?


That he was town. scum would have no reason not to vote me given the circumstances. Stalling the wagons pale in comparison to the free mislynch I had presented. V2V didn't, thus isn't scum.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:54 pm

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You realize that as long as you vote Zdenek you are doomed to death, right?
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:57 pm

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Like I said, I already resigned myself to it. I won't vote someone I've mathematically suggested to be town just to save myself. My mislynch won't end us the game and Z-something can't survive for very long after I'm in the ground.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:01 pm

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Well, if you don't want to save yourself, I can't do anything more.

But I don't think that's the case. I think that you think you still have a chance of getting out of this.

I have a question for you: You are willing to throw away all of your scumhunting for Vote Count Analysis?
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:03 pm

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For a second I was wondering if anyone can count.
And since there were two vote counts on the same page and we were all bitching about a possible no-lynch, I don't believe any of it.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:10 pm

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Jun wrote:I have a question for you: You are willing to throw away all of your scumhunting for Vote Count Analysis?


I'm really good at vote count analysis. Although this day one shtick isn't nearly as heart warming as my nearly foolproof day three with a dead scum stuff is. I don't normally do it until we have a scum flip and I can actually link voting patterns to real proven scum, but in a pinch I can PoE a scum pool.

Besides, given the situation we find ourselves in, I trust the conclusion my Analysis has given me just as much as I would trust any other form of scum hunting I might do.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:15 pm

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I know I've already said it publicly so it can't be trusted, but I'm going to take Pear's last post as evidence he is also town. Where were you a page and a half ago mate? Would have saved me a bit of heartache...
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:29 pm

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All right guys, i need to hit the sack. *puts on gloves, fuck you sack... Prepare to die!* I fully expect the game to be in night by the time I get up, even if it's not I'll be at work for deadline. ;_;

So last words:

@Quad: If you got a badger role I'll hunt you down and murder you... That was suppose to be my slot you lucky lucky bugger. *shakes fist 'but =D'*

@ Whoever is Bella: I'm afraid you're about to lose your spirit, mate. Hope you can use this to your advantage someway. (obvious guess on my end but seems the most logical conclusion)

@ Korlash: You are one hot and handsome fella and I enjoy your company! <3 (Same goes to V2V :P rowl) [Sorry for those nightmares now]
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:31 pm

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Sorry, work is a time suck, but they pay.

And I got a school gig I'm also doing.

@Junp- are you a double voter?
DarthYoshi wrote:
Day One, Vote Count the Eleventh


iStark (1): vijay2vasandani
Junpei (1): hiplop
PeregrineV (1): pappums rat,
Junpei

pappums rat (2): riceballtail, PeregrineV
Korlash (4): quadz08, Zdenek,
Junpei
, Korlash
hiplop (1): iStark

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch and 5 to no-lynch.

The deadline is currently set for 3:00 pm PDT (GMT-7) on Friday, April 6.

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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:37 pm

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Peregrine: Keen eye; the mod seems to have made a mistake.

Mod, you seem to have made a mistake with the VC there.


Indeed, the VC contained a mistake on my part--the numbers were totaled correctly, but I forgot to delete your name from the line of the previous VC when you switched votes. The VC has been edited to reflect this change. ~DY


Korlashs' play at the end riddles me; I'm almost certain that at the top of this page he thinks he has a chance to get out of this, meaning this is one big bluff. But to be gone till after deadline? Well, I'm willing to call the bluff; regardless of his alignment, I'd like to know what his full mentality was postgame about this.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:38 pm

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DarthYoshi wrote:
Day One, Vote Count the Second


Zdenek (1): riceballtail
Ghostlin (2): HellloooNewman, Zdenek
bv310
(4):
Junpei
, hiplop, vijay2vasandani,
Ghostlin

Junpei (1): PeregrineV
riceballtail (1): pappums rat
pappums rat (1): bv310

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch and 5 to no-lynch.

The deadline is currently set for 5:00 pm PDT (GMT-7) on Tuesday, April 3.

Junpei is V/LA through Sunday.

Prodding PeregrineV.

As ever, any questions or concerns, please let me know.

DarthYoshi wrote:
Day One, Vote Count the Eleventh


iStark (1): vijay2vasandani
Junpei (1): hiplop
PeregrineV (1): pappums rat, Junpei
pappums rat (2): riceballtail, PeregrineV
Korlash (4):
quadz08
, Zdenek,
Junpei
, Korlash
hiplop (1): iStark

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch and 5 to no-lynch.

The deadline is currently set for 3:00 pm PDT (GMT-7) on Friday, April 6.

As ever, any questions or concerns, please let me know.


I like doing it after flips, but will try some day1.

So first I notice is Junpei & Ghostlin(quadz) are voting bv310(Korlash) again, just like at the start of the game. Why is that? Are your reasons the same? Full circle and all that jazz?

2nd thing I noticed is bv3109lorlash) is back to 4 votes? Can past and current voters explain that?
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:39 pm

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Junpei wrote:Peregrine: Keen eye; the mod seems to have made a mistake.

Mod, you seem to have made a mistake with the VC there.


Korlashs' play at the end riddles me; I'm almost certain that at the top of this page he thinks he has a chance to get out of this, meaning this is one big bluff. But to be gone till after deadline? Well, I'm willing to call the bluff; regardless of his alignment, I'd like to know what his full mentality was postgame about this.


Vote Papums Rat instead of Korlash.

@Korlash- self-voting is a no-no.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:40 pm

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Ummm...

That slot is scummy?

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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:45 pm

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Quadz, why are you voting Korlash?

And no Peregrine, I think Korlash is betting on me changing my vote here; I'm not doing it.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:54 pm

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@Junpei- Then also explain how you started voting bv310 for the reason of ___________________ and are now voting him again (effectively) for ____________________________.

Because, you know, in your vote, you never gave a reason.
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:00 pm

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I would rather Quadz do this, but I suppose he could just read my ISO and be able to fake it if that's what his aim was to do...

I voted bv310 for first RVS, then for a feeling I had that he was consciously avoiding his wagon; then now I vote for Korlash for the effect of L-1, then because his reaction was awful, and continues to be indicative of sophisticated scum, and I also have had problems with Korlashs' focus and semantic attacks which don't seem to have any real direction.

If you would just read my posts closely Peregrine you'd know this... It's too bad though, Korlash was fun to play with.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:07 pm

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Hold up a second. So nobody is going to counter Germaine, and we're going to lynch one of the more important people in the abbey?

I'm not okay with it. Based on the level of importance my character played as well, I really cannot fathom this being a decent lynch.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:20 pm

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Ummmm... RBT. Use your brain. There are about 14 milllion 'important characters' in the Redwall series. In a 10 player game, I promise the scum have good fakeclaims. Nameclaims mean nothing, as far as determining alignment goes.

I am voting Korlash now because of a) BV's vote on the bad Newman wagon and b) Korlash's play in general (giant posts that are all data and no info, intentionally leaving information / asking for things he knows have already happened / lying). I don't know why Ghostlin voted BV, and I can't really ask him to find out.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:23 pm

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Korlash wrote:
rat wrote:LOL @ your double standards. This reasoning is no different from the way I looked at my position on Newman.


How so?

You dont want to go digging through things you dont think you have to and neither did I.

iStark wrote:PeregrineV & pappums rat, both look scummy for on reason or another.

LOL way to leave open the option of voting for two of the currently "biggest" wagons, scumbag.

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pappums rat wrote:I think quadz is probably town at this point.

That's cute. Do you think you could say why?

Because bv310 was town and quadz has given off no scumtells IMO.

Could someone explain why Korlash's self-vote makes him scum? I'm not seeing it.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:31 pm

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@Rat, I don't know if you realize this or not, but I could have easily shipped my vote on you if I wanted when korlash was asking for it.

@Korlash, you better have good reasons if you're not scum for this stunt *thinks of certain game and your scum reads due to this same gambit*
I don't buy it.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:45 am

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@Papums- Self-voting is scummy because you know if you are town that you are TOWN
100%
. Aside from Masons, nothing else gives that high a percentage for knowing a players alignment. So voting for someone you know
100%
is town is.....SCUMMY!
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:59 am

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VOTE: Korlash

deadline.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:39 am

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hiplop wrote:VOTE: Korlash

deadline.


Is about 6 hours away, so yeah....
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:50 am

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Lol at Korlash soft claiming a power role, not telling us what his shots do, after he self voted. He's scum. Lynch him now.
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