Open 387: Jungle Republic (Day 6 - ends in a Town Victory)

[Om of the Nom]

No, I was getting you to meta me by reading 10 pages of any of my games I replaced into to show you that 10 pages can definitely be enough for meta.

[Thomith]

he's had chance to back down
he hasn't
slandaar ALWAYS votehops, so meta properly
my vote stays.

[Om of the Nom]

Yeah I double checked my meta in the game we're talking about and I posted my reads the exact same way.

[Slandaar]

I have 10 pages on you, you have 10 pages on me.

Why should I need more pages than you to get an accurate meta read?

The hypocrisy is ridiculous

[Om of the Nom]

Because 10 pages in any game is enough for my meta.

[Chrimi]

Makes his current logic bad. His current logic is faulty because he is being pressured hard.

Cornered townie, as vijay said. Defending from his attacker(s). Slandaar, somebody's case being bad does not make them scum, it makes the case bad and that's it. Both scum and townies can make bad cases, it happens all the time.

So, I agree Om your logic on the situation is at fault, but I do not believe he is scum.

P-edit: Thomith, he is fighting back and defending, if he just backed down Slandaar would move in and continue making points and asking for an answer. Om is answering and defending, like anybody would. A bad defense means a townie that has given up, anyways. Fighting back and defending means a strong town who is trying to understand why Slandaar is tunneling him.

[drmyshotgun]

vote hopping isn't a scum-tell, just saying.
Also i'm fine with either a om or slandaar lynch today, their interactions to me seem like at least one of them is scum, om has the edge atm for the gut read arguement. That and i don't know how many votes slandaar has and i don't want to hammer yet.

You constantly repeat this phrase: Vote hoping isn't scummy.
So are you telling us to go find another reason why Slandaar is scum other than Vote Hopping?
Does that imply that he indeed is scum? You know this, therefore you are scum too?

[Chrimi]

vote hopping isn't a scum-tell, just saying.
Also i'm fine with either a om or slandaar lynch today, their interactions to me seem like at least one of them is scum, om has the edge atm for the gut read arguement. That and i don't know how many votes slandaar has and i don't want to hammer yet.

You constantly repeat this phrase: Vote hoping isn't scummy.
So are you telling us to go find another reason why Slandaar is scum other than Vote Hopping?
Does that imply that he indeed is scum? You know this, therefore you are scum too?

I love shotgun now.

Perfect, putting this post in my notes

[Thomith]

what i am saying is that the om and slandaar interaction means i would be willing to lynch either to get an interaction read on the other, and how does it imply that i know slandaar is scum? Also vote hopping isn't a scumtell, as long as you have even slight reasons for each vote, which slandaar seems to have.

[Om of the Nom]

Also vote hopping isn't a scumtell, as long as you have even slight reasons for each vote, which slandaar seems to have.

But like Slandaar said, scum can fabricate reasons. How do you know all his reasons are genuine?

[Slandaar]

I have 10 pages on you

Because 10 pages in any game is enough for my meta.

So, I have my 10 pages, you have yours. I know your meta.

Why are you telling me to go and read a different game?

[Thomith]

i don't? still doesn't make it a scumtell.

[Om of the Nom]

I'm starting to feel Thomith scum now. A lot of his posts involve him agreeing with Slandaar, yet he tries to distance himself from him by keeping him open as one of his viable lynches. If Slandaar flips town (which he most likely won't) I'm still betting on Thomith scum.

EDIT: Because now I'm trying to show you that I act the same way in all of my games, so 10 pages will be enough to meta me.

EDIT AGAIN: Doesn't make it not a scumtell either.

[drmyshotgun]

vote hopping isn't a scum-tell, just saying.
Also i'm fine with either a om or slandaar lynch today, their interactions to me seem like at least one of them is scum, om has the edge atm for the gut read arguement. That and i don't know how many votes slandaar has and i don't want to hammer yet.

You constantly repeat this phrase: Vote hoping isn't scummy.
So are you telling us to go find another reason why Slandaar is scum other than Vote Hopping?
Does that imply that he indeed is scum? You know this, therefore you are scum too?

I love shotgun now.

Perfect, putting this post in my notes

Thank you

[vijay2vasandani]

Sorry Chrimi, I'm just teasing XD and OOTN you're thirteen? XD i wish I started mafia when I was thirteen.

Slandaar I can see where you're coming from. Leaning town imo. But your read conflicts with mine in that what you see as scummy, I see as town. Not the best play, but town nonetheless.

Anyway, we really need to wagon kondi. That is all.

[Thomith]

om are you seriously OMGUS FOSing me now?

[drmyshotgun]

What's there to OMGUS about from Om to you, Thomith?

[Thomith]

What's there to OMGUS about from Om to you, Thomith?

i don't understand this question i assume you mean what is there for om to OMGUS me for? If so then i already stated a gut scum read on him ages ago, him suddenly switching me from a town to scum read seems like OMGUSing to me.

[drmyshotgun]

Well, his read on you was gut too. Guts are not meant to be constant.
They can change every second depending on every word you choose (sometimes carelessly) to exhibit for others to read.

[Chrimi]

Exactly.

I don't like a wagon on kondi. Not keen on the idea at all.

[Thomith]

i see where you are coming from, but he said i was still town when i "agreed with slandaar" on my reasoning for a vote, and other than that i don't see where i agreed with slandaar.

[drmyshotgun]

Kondi is still a suspect for me, but not one that's stronger than our little Easter Bunny Slandaar who likes hopping around to give out easter eggs to everyone in this game.
Seriously, if you are trying to get a reaction from your vote, you'd try to preserve it, make it look prestigious.
At this point the votes are useless. People will go: Oh, a vote. But by Slandaar. Meh, he does that.
By making an action look like you are doing something but actually not getting any significant result out of it, you are scum who is trying to mislead the Town.

i see where you are coming from, but he said i was still town when i "agreed with slandaar" on my reasoning for a vote, and other than that i don't see where i agreed with slandaar.

P-Edit: Agreeing isn't necessarily important.

[drmyshotgun]

The important thing is the extent to which you agree/disagree/dontcare about.

[Thomith]

om says im scummy because i am "agreeing with slandaar" where as from what i can see that is the only time which i agreed with him and he said he still thought i was towny then.

[drmyshotgun]

So what are you freaking out about?
If you are not linked with Slandaar at all except for the fact that you defended him for Vote hopping, and that's the only link Om can find to frame you guilty, what's the big deal?
Sorry, am I blind here? You seem to be freaking out not because you were framed by Om, but because of the fact that he actually made a link with you and Slandaar.