Worst Role Mafia - GAME OVER!

[knox]

Click this

Flick piss

[Chimera]

Hey guys, so...yeah this was badly timed what with easter weekend and finals in a week. Currently I'm just trying to at least stay abreast of what's happening. I'm still trying to figure out what I make of all the goings on...

Confirming that Redpanda and I are masons together.

And BBMolla...epic win.

[knox]

Hey guys, so...yeah this was badly timed what with easter weekend and finals in a week. Currently I'm just trying to at least stay abreast of what's happening. I'm still trying to figure out what I make of all the goings on...

Confirming that Redpanda and I are masons together.

And BBMolla...epic win.

[Chimera]

...was for same reasons as no in-thread reply.

[Captain Haddock]

So you're not rolefishing but you want to know if he has another power role? Right.

You're being a bit silly I must say

Are you are eyes working? Are they okay?

He'd just claimed mason with another guy

But mason is a normal role so I asked myself: Why?

Why would there be a mason in this game?

Most likely reason is his partner is to blame.

If he has another power however

Which I never meant he should say now, never.

Just to make it understandably clear

Was he a worst role? Or was his partner to fear?

Nice way to distract from the point, but you could say that to him rather than ask him if he has another power.

If he has another power however

Which

I never meant he should say now

, never.

Is mason all you got, or is there other fizz?

You don't have to specify, just

say if it's so

VOTE: BBmolla

[knox]

Millar adaptation, maybe?

Eh. It's a place to start.

VOTE: 2birds1stone

[Chimera]

Hi guys I have a very unfun post restriction so don't expect a lot from me.

HAHAHAHA

VOTE: Chimera

Also, while I missed this one (vote was cleared by reset), my nuance is like ML...only in reverse. I have to vote for anyone who votes me until someone else votes me or the vote is removed.

[Chimera]

Millar adaptation, maybe?

Eh. It's a place to start.

VOTE: 2birds1stone

no...and? I have a bad habit of forgetting about my QTs early in games and was, like I said, busy.

[BBmolla]

Is mason all you got, or is there other fizz?

You don't have to specify, just

say if it's so

VOTE: BBmolla

Read the unbolded, you'll feel like a fool

Now excuse me folks I'm off to school

[knox]

Millar adaptation, maybe?

Eh. It's a place to start.

VOTE: 2birds1stone

no...and? I have a bad habit of forgetting about my QTs early in games and was, like I said, busy.

[ShadowGirl]

I didn't assume anything.
Its been three days of me waiting for him to say something there.

I even asked izak to let chimera know incase he forgot about it or something.

But after Birds town flip, I believe he's scum.

Cool story bro.

[Captain Haddock]

Is mason all you got, or is there other fizz?

You don't have to specify, just

say if it's so

VOTE: BBmolla

Read the unbolded, you'll feel like a fool

Now excuse me folks I'm off to school

Nice selective quoting.

BBMolla asked him to say if he had another PR(say if it's so), then later claimed.

If he has another power however

Which I never meant he should say now, never

.

Let's lynch this lying scum.

[Phillammon]

He quite clearly asked IF he had a role, not WHAT the role was, and repeatedly explained that. Stop that.

[Amrun]

Your given reason or thinking that he's scum and that the shot was good was selfish- you said you found it hard to read him. I would vote you here and now, but it's not worth the effort on this device to get square brackets up. Also, you're basically confirmed innocent, which is another good reason not to lynch you. Wait. Damn.

Ergh, I hate this post. It's so forced-sounding. And HOW is gnr in any way confirmed innocent? He isn't. I usually look for town clears, but this one strikes me as scum too nervous to attack a daykiller, which is USUALLY town in regular games.

And I'm conflicted about it because I don't think Phil is scum with Teleporting Space Hippos, whose attack on gnr was terrible.
TSH, your basis for suspecting gnr is terrible. How does taking a selfish shot make him scum? Shooting a player that's hard to read for him is scum selfish how? As scum, why would he care about who is hard to read?

BBmolla makes me nervous because I remember izak trying to create a balanced cult recruiter....

[IceGuy]

Okay. If we have two masons, I'm pretty sure at least one of them is not town. And since we can't let Chimera live into LyLo anyway, considering her vote restriction, this is where my vote is going.

VOTE: Chimera

[danakillsu]

Okay. If we have two masons, I'm pretty sure at least one of them is not town. And since we can't let Chimera live into LyLo anyway, considering her vote restriction, this is where my vote is going.

VOTE: Chimera

Agreed. This is the best lead.

vote: Chimera

[Chimera]

Fyi, ice, I'm a he...

Why can't I live to LyLo? My votes are only restricted with an active vote against me (and only the most recent one must remain active). In a lylo situation scum can't direct my vote in their favor...that said I can see it being tricky to navigate, depending on how many of us are around in a lylo situation...

(VOTE: danakillsu)

[saulres]

Caught up yay!

Now to process. I took my notes alphabetically by player name (as compared to chronologically) when I thought there was something worth noting, so that's how I'll present them here. I'm also not going to post all my notes because I always find it annoying when other people do it.

pedit: It got long, so I'm putting people in spoiler tags, with reads (if I have any) following. If I mention you please do look at your area because I may have questions for you.

Spoiler: Amrun

There is merit to the theory that allowing scum to obfuscate things is only the dissemination of red herrings in a situation like this.

English please?

our flips have seemed to correspond to the roles

2birds might not have. The role might have been "mod-confirmed scum who flips as town". How can you say that so assuredly unless you're scum and know who town is?

FoS: Amrun

Spoiler: BBMolla

I like your post restriction, and you're doing a very entertaining job with it.

I'm not thinking recruiting someone new is helpful if you can't guarantee alignment -- just more confusion. Is it required?

Spoiler: CandyCornVampire

What's your post restriction?

Also your vote is malformed in 196, it has to be bold and at the start of a line.

How did you miss that 2birds was killed before you posted that?

Captain Haddock: Your 234 feels townie. Leaning town.

Spoiler: Chimera

Why can't I live to LyLo? My votes are only restricted with an active vote against me (and only the most recent one must remain active). In a lylo situation scum can't direct my vote in their favor

But if you're scum with that ability, in LyLo it lets you say you're town and not need to justify at all your vote.

Spoiler: Gimmicky Alt

I will avoid this wagon for now since there are 8 votes already, no need to add another.

I like the way no one gives you shit for that, but when I take my vote off for essentially the same reason, I get called scum

reason pending

Looking forward to that reason...

Spoiler: IceGuy

Regarding 2b1s: My role is actually a heavily modified version of the one in the thread: the original version had a non-town wincon and a different mechanic, only name and basic idea are the same. So I was skeptical of the announcement in the beginning, and am somehow inclined to believe him.

You're claiming a role which was specifically non-town, and then using 2birds as an excuse why it isn't this time? Add that to "I was skeptical of the announcement in the beginning" but you did vote him, and it all feels very contrived to protect a scumclaim.

Your point on Chimera in 265 is interestingly valid, though -- if he flips town we lynch RedPanda tomorrow? Or you're bussing him to gain towncred...

Fos: IceGuy

Spoiler: moneybags

LOL MCQUEEN.
I THINK.
WE HAVE.
SAME ROLE.

I still don't understand why you think you have the same role.

Spoiler: Oversoul

If people have more negative aspects to claim like Maniacal we should temper our rush onto Birds's lynch at least until Sunday has passed.

That feels like scum trying to look town.

I agree with the Hippo vote.

His vote was on me, why didn't you vote me also?

And for any person believing 2birds, please reevaluate your gullibility index.

Right back at you.

Mod, did the scum get pregame time to talk in their QT?

Why do you care about this? That's a weird question. Trying to not look scum?

I think Mass Claim Day 2 might be a good idea

So your scumbuddies know who to kill?

VOTE: Oversoul

Spoiler: Phillamon

I'm tempted to start rhyming/giffing too, in solidarity, as well as because it looks fun.

Please don't.

That rhyme seems quite laboured, but I'll let it slide
and you're right. Your role seems to good for the inside
of a "Worst roles here!" game. I'd suspect your recruit.
Do you have to? Or can you just choose not to shoot
your powers of recruitment. Or if you should choose
not to bring one in would it be playing to lose?
This posting restriction you have is most fun-
but I will not use it once we've finished night one.
For a scholar of yours would most certainly rhyme.
I guess we'll find out in the fullness of time...

I asked nicely!

Spoiler: Pokerface

@Mod, who has not posted yet

Why did you ask this instead of just looking for yourself?

Spoiler: ShadowGirl

So why vote him?

That question feels townie to me.

if we're going to lynch 2birds then it should be today, in case he is mafia and has a night ability.

@2birds: Do you have any sort of night ability?

Wait, what? If you thought he was scum, why fish for an answer you wouldn't necessarily believe anyway?

I'm not seeing your role as a "Worst" one. What makes it bad?

@Mod

Can you remove this post if it's not part of the game please?

Spoiler: Teleporting Speed Hippos

Role related reasons.

Expound on this please.

You're saying I should have placed another vote? Did you read me at 60?

Isn't it obvious from both the wagon and the reaction to GNR's shot that 2birds needed killing? Asking permission just leaves a bad taste in the mouth. If it goes wrong, it wasn't YOUR fault, and if it goes right you can seem like the hero. No, I don't like this at all.

This feels like distancing. If I though ShadowGirl was scum (or if she flips), you'd be next on the list.

again? Look at 60

I'm sick and tired of people thinking I'm scum because I don't know how to start the game. If I unvote, I'm called scum, if I vote someone else, I'm called scum, if I leave my vote, I'm called scum. I can't win for losing

Some day, someone will tell me what I should do in early game to not look scummy. And then I'll do that, and I'll be called scum for it... (For more on this, see my comment to Gimmicky Alt)

[IceGuy]

You're claiming a role which was specifically non-town, and then using 2birds as an excuse why it isn't this time?

No, the other way round. I saw my role, looked it up in the thread, and saw there had been significant changes. So together with the fact a scum Guilty Child is a rather unbalanced role, I was inclined to believe his role was changed too.

Add that to "I was skeptical of the announcement in the beginning" but you did vote him, and it all feels very contrived to protect a scumclaim.

I was thinking we have to get rid of him anyway because it'll just linger in the background and prevent any honest scumhunting on him.

Your point on Chimera in 265 is interestingly valid, though -- if he flips town we lynch RedPanda tomorrow?

Yes (unless something relevant happens).

[ManiacalLemon]

VOTE: Chimera
Just for now.

[saulres]

Your point on Chimera in 265 is interestingly valid, though -- if he flips town we lynch RedPanda tomorrow?

Yes (unless something relevant happens).

I only have two problems with this.

1) Masons on the wiki are specifically pro-town. This is tempered quite a bit by my examination of the Worst Roles thread which indicated otherwise, so I guess the wiki is wrong? (Or I misread it?) The use of "mason" in this game is meant to be "neighbor"?

2) If your'e scum (and you lean scum to me), we risk killing two townies on your sayso. I'm not willing to jump on this yet.

[Chimera]

But if you're scum with that ability, in LyLo it lets you say you're town and not need to justify at all your vote.

What? No...it's not a free pass to vote, as you seem to think. It's a reactionary vote on whoever last voted me. i.e. voting me is akin to voting yourself.

(UNVOTE:
VOTE: ManiacalLemon)

[IceGuy]

1) Masons on the wiki are specifically pro-town. This is tempered quite a bit by my examination of the Worst Roles thread which indicated otherwise, so I guess the wiki is wrong? (Or I misread it?) The use of "mason" in this game is meant to be "neighbor"?]

This is Worst Role Mafia.

[ManiacalLemon]

Well, Chimera's vote is wasted for the day, unless something else happens.

[saulres]

Good point. Chimera, what was the point of that vote?