Open 381 - Day 4

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I just read the past 2 pages. This is who I feel should die today
VOTE: GNR

Sheeping? Or do you have your own reasons?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I have reasons. Ill get to them in a bit

[FuDuzn]

I am still waiting to hear back from Hiplop, but he appears to not be as active on site as of late from what I can tell.

I also do not understand the wagon on Elmo, not at all. And if we are comparing him to Riggs, then Riggs is much worse.

VOTE: Riggs

[Antihero]

My vote sucks, I have to unvote.

UNVOTE:

[Antihero]

After rereading, Riggs is obvscum.

Here's my spoonfed "case" just in case anyone wants it.

Antihero's

Awesome

Case

Spoiler: Post 128

I'll post later tonight before I go to sleep.

I called him down on this kind of posting (promising content and never delivering) before and someone pooh-poohed me on it, but I still think it's scummy. Town just don't make this kind of post.

Spoiler: Post 140

I don't see how its town driven, or scum driven for that matter, but the post just strikes me as odd
Vote:mcqueen

The offending post by mcqueen is worthy of being voted, but it's not scummy ("scum driven") or "town driven"? The wishy-washiness of the reasoning combined with the conviction of putting a vote down is scummy. (Calling things "odd" in general is a pretty good scumtell, too)

Spoiler: Post 189

So you want to end the day earlier and end discussion rather than wait?

This was said to mcqueen after he said he would drop the hammer. This is also coming from someone whose commentary is limited to mcqueen. (Both the tunneling on mcqueen and the shit shoveling are scumtells).

Spoiler: Post 203

And if hoko is scum, Riggs is almost certainly one of his partners - he seems to be soft defending him.

Because I noticed that he was the back-up a while ago and was trying to keep him alive?

why?

Don't want to talk about it, but I'm fine now.

Ok. I am the Backup Rolecop. That is why I said I wanted the Mafia Rolecop dead.

This is extremely stupid, and I have a feeling it's real. It wouldn't fit hokorippoi's personality to lie about this.

VOTE: hokorippoi

WTF???? It seems like you don't find hok scummy in the post, then you vote him? Why the vote?

VOTE:McQueen

The rebuttal to briz's soft-defending accusation is a total fail. This post is the first post Riggs made after hoko claimed. Therefore, the chainsaw tunneling on mcqueen is NOT the result of hoko's claim (as Riggs is suggesting in this post).
FAIL DEFENSE IS FAIL.

A similar argument is made in this post:

Spoiler: Post 226

Which was what? Defending what I believed to be a townie (and more accuratly, the back-up cop) and finding mcqueen suspicious?

Spoiler: Post 240

What would not liking mcqueen have to do with your vote? If anything, it makes it seem like you are trying to get rid of the suppossed vig, which makes you scum
VOTE:Elmo

He's up everyone's asses about a "case" on him, but the most he could dredge up for Elmo was that lame-ass brain fart on page 2?
LAME, AND A SCUMMY ENTRANCE TO THE ELMO WAGON

Spoiler: Post 247

@elmo
explain why you voted kondi

Looks like you've found your new guy to tunnel. There's NO FOLLOW UP, AND elmo clearly talked about his vote being the result of NK meta earlier.

Spoiler: Post 272 and 275

@briz, could you explain your case on m again?

Sheeping? Or do you have your own reasons?

Innocent people tend to not ask for cases on themselves.
Scum tend to forgo attacking the accuser for attacks on the evidence; they'll say stuff like "what's your case?"

Riggs needs death. ASAP

VOTE: Riggs

[Antihero]

Kami and hiplop are other good scumcandidates, but Riggs definitely leads the pack.

[Antihero]

Kami is posting in other games and not this one.

/fyi

[Kamikrazy]

My apologies for my inactivity. I've been tremendously busy with real life, i'll try to remain active from here on out.

By my vote count, that puts GNR at L-1.

I highly advise you guys get off that wagon. He is DEFINITELY not the lynch for today. If you want to lynch him tomorrow, that's fine. But that's a terrible lynch for today.

I'm comfortable with an Elmo lynch at the moment. Of all the players on the wagon, he had the most incentive to hop on it to try to divert attention away from him.

Vote: ElmoTehAzn

[Elmo TeH AzN]

My apologies for my inactivity. I've been tremendously busy with real life, i'll try to remain active from here on out.

By my vote count, that puts GNR at L-1.

I highly advise you guys get off that wagon. He is DEFINITELY not the lynch for today. If you want to lynch him tomorrow, that's fine. But that's a terrible lynch for today.

I'm comfortable with an Elmo lynch at the moment. Of all the players on the wagon, he had the most incentive to hop on it to try to divert attention away from him.

Vote: ElmoTehAzn

First: Nice sheep and buddy of GNR
2nd: THERE ARE SPACES IN MY NAME. ITS NOT ALL TOGETHER
3rd: YOUR SCUM WITH GNR PROTECTING YOUR BUDDY!
4th: YES IM USING CAPS
5th: ALSO PHONE POSTING AND YOU NEED TO DIE NEXT SCUM!!!

[Kamikrazy]

You truly believe that I would blatantly defend GNR as the last two remaining scum?

Come on ElmoTehAzn, you can do better than that...

[Elmo TeH AzN]

SERIOUSLY THERE'S A SPACE. ITS NOT HARD

[brizingre1]

My apologies for my inactivity. I've been tremendously busy with real life, i'll try to remain active from here on out.

By my vote count, that puts GNR at L-1.

I highly advise you guys get off that wagon. He is DEFINITELY not the lynch for today. If you want to lynch him tomorrow, that's fine. But that's a terrible lynch for today.

I'm comfortable with an Elmo lynch at the moment. Of all the players on the wagon, he had the most incentive to hop on it to try to divert attention away from him.

Vote: ElmoTehAzn

Please explain your reasoning at least a bit here. Why is Riggs an acceptable lynch tomorrow but not today, why is there so much of a difference? Could you go into a bit more detail about why you think Elmo is scum. This post is very dodgy all round, and reads like a scum partner casting around for an alternate wagon. Going to ISO you later.

Riggs

Claim

And my case on you is pretty much this: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3944705, plus the additional points that Antihero makes.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Fine. I'll claim
I am the Town Vig
I shot Mcqueen last night

[Elmo TeH AzN]

UNVOTE:

[Antihero]

EVERYONE UNVOTE RIGGS. AND NOBODY COUNTERCLAIM IF THIS IS A FAKE CLAIM.

Even he's lying, the real vig will shoot him tonight.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Kamikrazy

Scummy soft-claiming is scummy.

[FuDuzn]

UNVOTE:

Why are we voting Kami? Antihero you really are trying to make Kami look bad, especially after he said why he has been somewhat inactive(btw I saw he was being replaced out of other games, so I tend to believe him). Please point out his scum tell.

[Antihero]

UNVOTE:

Why are we voting Kami? Antihero you really are trying to make Kami look bad, especially after he said why he has been somewhat inactive(btw I saw he was being replaced out of other games, so I tend to believe him). Please point out his scum tell.

We? You mean me, right? Just trying to make poor Kami look bad.

First off, Kami has been posting in other games and not this one (a quick search of his forum posts will prove that). Selective lurking is a scumtell. But that's not even really the part that bothers me.

Scummy soft-claiming is scummy.

This is. If you don't see it, I can't make you see it. Hint: read parts where he's talking about Riggs.

[hiplop]

I am more concerned with Hiplop saying that my posts aren't saying much......and then not giving any examples(and off topic, I would like to know what I possibly am nominated for lol).

I do not think GNR is the right choice here, let's find another target.

Speaking of not saying anything, you have had lot's of time to find somebody better the Riggs to lynch........anybody better come to mind?

Also I see Kondi all over the place, except in this game.

I actually had forgotten Kami was in this game.

erm, its hard to point out something NOT happening. It's mostly like you're rewording things rather than unique content? IDK

Eh it appears I just read a few games that you were in for them haha :$

Kami and hiplop are other good scumcandidates, but Riggs definitely leads the pack.

I'm pretty obviously town, cmon son

This riggs/antihero things feels very orchestrated/practised. I don't like it. The fact that he didn't even stop to think that riggs is lying concerns me.

VOTE: Antihero

[Antihero]

This riggs/antihero things feels very orchestrated/practised. I don't like it. The fact that he didn't even stop to think that riggs is lying concerns me.

EVERYONE UNVOTE RIGGS. AND NOBODY COUNTERCLAIM IF THIS IS A FAKE CLAIM.

Even he's lying, the real vig will shoot him tonight.

HERP DERP

[Antihero]

I'm pretty obviously town, cmon son

LOLno

[hiplop]

your reaction to pressure isn't golden, ponyboy.

but you act as if there is DEFINITELY a vig, only way you could know this is if 1. You're the vig, 2. You're scum. #2 is actually quite likely, this is a scumslip.

lynch it with fire.

[brizingre1]

I am more concerned with Hiplop saying that my posts aren't saying much......and then not giving any examples(and off topic, I would like to know what I possibly am nominated for lol).

I do not think GNR is the right choice here, let's find another target.

Speaking of not saying anything, you have had lot's of time to find somebody better the Riggs to lynch........anybody better come to mind?

Also I see Kondi all over the place, except in this game.

I actually had forgotten Kami was in this game.

erm, its hard to point out something NOT happening. It's mostly like you're rewording things rather than unique content? IDK

Eh it appears I just read a few games that you were in for them haha :$

Kami and hiplop are other good scumcandidates, but Riggs definitely leads the pack.

I'm pretty obviously town, cmon son

This riggs/antihero things feels very orchestrated/practised. I don't like it. The fact that he didn't even stop to think that riggs is lying concerns me.

VOTE: Antihero

Um... no,he really didn't.

VOTE:hiplop

[brizingre1]

your reaction to pressure isn't golden, ponyboy.

but you act as if there is DEFINITELY a vig, only way you could know this is if 1. You're the vig, 2. You're scum. #2 is actually quite likely, this is a scumslip.

lynch it with fire.

Please tell me this is a joke, we went through this before: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3915564

[Elmo TeH AzN]

your reaction to pressure isn't golden, ponyboy.

but you act as if there is DEFINITELY a vig, only way you could know this is if 1. You're the vig, 2. You're scum. #2 is actually quite likely, this is a scumslip.

lynch it with fire.

Please tell me this is a joke, we went through this before: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3915564

There is no way he's serious

[Antihero]

your reaction to pressure isn't golden, ponyboy.

but you act as if there is DEFINITELY a vig, only way you could know this is if 1. You're the vig, 2. You're scum. #2 is actually quite likely, this is a scumslip.

lynch it with fire.

Click here.
Then click here.
Now read this again.
Seriously, WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS.

THIS IS AN OPEN F'ING GAME. THERE'S 1 VIG, 1 JK, 1 BACK UP ROLECOP ON THE TOWN SIDE.

THE ONLY THING THAT NEEDS TO BY LYNCHED WITH FIRE IS YOU

UNVOTE:
VOTE: hiplop

DON'T THINK YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK, SOFT-CLAIMING SCUM KAMIKRAZY.