Worst Role Mafia - GAME OVER!

[Amrun]

Nice catch, OS.

VOTE: GNR

[Phillammon]

I was under the impression that a ine shot vig would be town, but damn if that isn't some good evidence right there. VOTE: GNR.
Could you repeat the questions? I can't find them.

[ShadowGirl]

@Shadowgirl,

Your skill turned birds from townie into a survivor and then killed him. Does that mean 2Birds just lost the game and can't even win with the town? From a moral standpoint I can't say I like that skill. I am a proponent of the vidge village idiots on night 0 philosophy but at least they can still win the game if their side plays well. If anything their side likly has a better chance to win without them. 2birds wasn't a village idiot and doesn't even get a chance to win now. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad a role like his is out of the game given the mod's cruel trickery, but do you have a kill skill that doesn't make people survivors first? I kinda wish I had read the opening rules with more of a keen eye now. I'm not as 'intentionally' cruel as izak when I run a bastard game.

Before I submitted my modkill I asked izak where it meant that 2birds would just die or whether he would be unable to win from that point forward, but he said he wouldn't give me a striaght answer. I wasn't too happy about that, but the bastardness is out of my hands as to that particular issue. I think the moral dilemma is probably what makes it a bad role, but I figured the best way to look at it was as a dayvig (which is why some people questioned why it was a worst role). And no, I don't have any kill abilities.

Been up 24 hours writing an essay, so I'm going to sleep now. </3

[Moneybags]

OH MAN.
OH MAN.
OH MAN.

VOTE: GNR

[Candy Corn Vampire]

>.<
oy vey.

For Captain Haddock's eyes only (no really)

Spoiler:

QUIZ TIME!!!!!!!!!

QUESTION 1.

Candycorn, why are you so reluctant to explain your post restriction if you have one?

IS IT...?
A. Because claiming harms me and could give info to the mafia.
B. Because claiming harms me and could give info to the mafia.
C. Because claiming harms me and could give info to the mafia.
D. ALL OF THE ABOVE!

QUESTION 2.

How does asking someone to explain a post restriction qualify as rolefishing?

IS IT...?

A. My post restriction and my power role are interrelated and claiming one would give away the other.
B. My post restriction and my power role are interrelated and claiming one would give away the other.
C. My post restriction and my power role are interrelated and claiming one would give away the other.
D. ALL OF THE ABOVE!

BONUS ROUND:
What townie reason do you have for inquiring about something that doesn't benefit the town in any way?

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tl;dr: I didn't answer the first 3 times I was asked: put 2 and 2 together for Pete's sake.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: GNR

[Amrun]

Wait, why weren't you voting before?

[BBmolla]

I probably shouldn't use my role, which is a shameI wanted to bring some others into this game

Why exactly can't you bring others into this game?

Like will they have an actual player slot and be able to vote, or will they just have the option of communicating with you via neighborhood?

If they just communicate with you via neighborhood I don't really see the problem, but make sure you neighborize one of the people in this game so town can verify what goes on in the QT.

If you bring people in the actual game eh... I think you should save them the burden and not be a dick.

They will be sent a PM and start playing the game

I thought they were

just

neighbors, but no, it's lame

@BBmolla,

I don't get his early attempt to look confirmed
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3959020
last time I played trying to look or appear confirmed, I was scum
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3955739
Molla was the first to discredit the masons before they came out as neighbors and he discredited them before everyone knew who they were
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3956818
This strikes me as a mafioso trying to put down a usually confirmed and pwerful role before it can help the town. And I tend to agree with Haddock when it comes to your fishing and quick lynching
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3958688
Also your PR is highly amusing, simple, and not very determental. Given our mod's so far cruelness and how the other PR's appear, I would say your PR is the one most likly to be fake. Tell me, must you end every line with a rhyme every time or is their some lenancy on your postings or penalties?

This is all bad, sorry bro

And it says just to rhyme, so I don't know.

It might say more, but I won't tell.

It'll reveal more than is useful as well.

[BBmolla]

A GNR vote is always a good one

Let's lynch him and go for some night fun

UNVOTE:
VOTE: GNR

[izakthegoomba]

Votecount 1.06

Guy_Named_Riggs (6) - saulres, Amrun, Phillammon, Moneybags, Oversoul, BBmolla
Chimera (3) - IceGuy, ManiacalLemon, Candy Corn Vampire
Robotnick2 (2) - RedPanda, Gimmicky Alt
Captain Haddock (1) - danakillsu
saulres (1) - Teleporting Speed Hippos
BBmolla (1) - Captain Haddock
ManiacalLemon (1) - Chimera
Phillammon (0) -

none

Oversoul (0) -

none

Teleporting Speed Hippos (0) -

none

danakillsu (0) -

none

PokerFace (0) -

none

Candy Corn Vampire (0) -

none

IceGuy (0) -

none

Amrun (0) -

none

Moneybags (0) -

none

mcqueen (0) -

none

ShadowGirl (0) -

none

Gimmicky Alt (0) -

none

numberQ (0) -

none

RedPanda (0) -

none

knox (0) -

none

No Lynch (0) -

none

Not voting (7) - Guy_Named_Riggs, numberQ, knox, PokerFace, Robotnick2, mcqueen, ShadowGirl

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. The deadline is 20:00 UTC on 28th April 2012, in (expired on 2012-04-28 21:00:00).

[knox]

knox has a really annoying PR. Izak you should hate yourself for doing that to someone

[knox]

Can you vote knox or have you just not done so yet?

[knox]

Poker you reminded me of something I did not comment on in my other catch up post

I'm trying to catch up in another game right so I'll make it short and quick

I WAS calling GNR town for making the unorthodox shot, but now that he has done a double take on his reasoning I don't think he is town anymore

My evidence

Wow...That was lucky
I am Fritzler's Favorite Role
I had a 1-shot Daykill ability that I had to use on Day 1 within the first five pages or I would lose my vote.
Elmo has always been on of those people that I have had a hard time reading, so rather than keep him around to mind screw with my head the entire game, I took a chance and shot him, hoping he was scum. I was close.

Because, at the time I submitted the kill, he was most suscipcious in my eyes. Part of it because of meta, another part being that out of everyone who had posted, he was one of the only posters who seemed like they were trying to appear town, like scum trying to appear town.

He applies that second set of "he was trying to appear town" only came into existence after I had posted my suspicions of Elmo and after I had defended GNR's shot

Vote GNR

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

Shit. I should have just stayed on that GNR bad boy wagon. Oversoul has explained what I didn't like about GNR really fucking well.
Guess its too late to hitch a ride on it now, lads? Unless you all don't mind unvoting, letting me vote, then revoting...

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Then you should know better than to assume town isn't selfish, tSH.

How is that any different than arguing that I should know that town don't do scummy things as a way to excuse scummy behaviour?

It makes a lot more sense as a scum role.

Or third party.

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Putting normal masons in this game is bastardly so no I don't think so. What makes you say that?

There's a difference between bastard and "worst role" though, isn't there?

How does asking someone to explain a post restriction qualify as rolefishing? Unlike finding out if someone has an/another power role that would not be useful to scum. I love how you're called that out but ignored actual rolefishing. I'm sure atleast one of these idiots is BB's buddy.

Hmm, this wasn't what I was referring to - wasn't it you who was asking ShadowGirl about her role? (someone was, at least - apologies if it wasn't you)

[IceGuy]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: GNR

[Phillammon]

Quick question for knox- you limited to a single panel per post.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Poker you reminded me of something I did not comment on in my other catch up post

I'm trying to catch up in another game right so I'll make it short and quick

I WAS calling GNR town for making the unorthodox shot, but now that he has done a double take on his reasoning I don't think he is town anymore

My evidence

Wow...That was lucky
I am Fritzler's Favorite Role
I had a 1-shot Daykill ability that I had to use on Day 1 within the first five pages or I would lose my vote.
Elmo has always been on of those people that I have had a hard time reading, so rather than keep him around to mind screw with my head the entire game, I took a chance and shot him, hoping he was scum. I was close.

Because, at the time I submitted the kill, he was most suscipcious in my eyes. Part of it because of meta, another part being that out of everyone who had posted, he was one of the only posters who seemed like they were trying to appear town, like scum trying to appear town.

He applies that second set of "he was trying to appear town" only came into existence after I had posted my suspicions of Elmo and after I had defended GNR's shot

First off
If your suspicions were in a massive wall of text with spoilers for the people the cases were on, I didn't read it
Second
If you found me suspicious, hy didn't you vote me right away?

VOTE:Oversoul

[IceGuy]

That is a horrible OMGUS.

[knox]

Putting normal masons in this game is bastardly so no I don't think so. What makes you say that?

There's a difference between bastard and "worst role" though, isn't there?

@ShadowGirl they are confirmed to be pro-town. Also:

15) [...] Mod statements are not guaranteed to be true.

[knox]

Quick question for knox- you limited to a single panel per post.

[RedPanda]

So did everyone miss BBmolla's rolefishing and lying?

Candy corn, What actually stops you from posting regulary?

So did everyone miss Captain Haddock's Rolefishing and hypocrisy?

QFT.

QQFT

I don't like this at all.

What Captain haddock asked about is perfectly valid to me. I would want to know also if some person told me a post restriction gives them an excuse to lurk. CCV not answering it right now is also fine. There will be a time when she will have to.

[Gimmicky Alt]

Chimera

- null

ManiacalLemon

- slight lean scum

RedPanda

- Null, leaning slightly town.

Explain these 3 robonick.

Panda lay down a vote or something your kind of lurky too.

VOTE: GNR

[RedPanda]

GNR's first ten posts and his dayvig on elmo make me want to give him a pat on his head.

his eleventh post I can excuse. People make stuff up to make sense of what they did.

the vote on oversoul was pretty dumb but i can understand where it came from.

[RedPanda]

@RedPanda, hmm. I'm keeping my eye on you but I can see how you might have meant it that way. Yes, masons normally confirm each other as pro-town in their role PM as far as I know.

There's no might have meant that.

I did mean that.

Oh yeah

I definitely don't like this guy.

just looked at this ISO.
Jumps up and down at several people.
And the Haddock thing was the worst.
now he wants to jump on the GNR wagon

In the meantime whilst we're waiting, Vote: Guy_Named_Riggs for taking a selfish, scummy shot.

this was his reason

Oversouls reasons are completely different.

yet you seem to think his reasons are

Shit. I should have just stayed on that GNR bad boy wagon. Oversoul has explained what I didn't like about GNR really fucking well.Guess its too late to hitch a ride on it now, lads? Unless you all don't mind unvoting, letting me vote, then revoting...

What you didn't like about GNR.

unvote Vote teleporting speed hippos

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

There's no might have meant that.

I did mean that.

Oh right so I have to take your fucking word as gospel then? Dumb panda.

In the meantime whilst we're waiting, Vote: Guy_Named_Riggs for taking a selfish, scummy shot.

this was his reason

Oversouls reasons are completely different.

yet you seem to think his reasons are

Shit. I should have just stayed on that GNR bad boy wagon. Oversoul has explained what I didn't like about GNR really fucking well.Guess its too late to hitch a ride on it now, lads? Unless you all don't mind unvoting, letting me vote, then revoting...

What you didn't like about GNR.

unvote Vote teleporting speed hippos

Because that second fucking post came AFTER I'd outlined my reasons for voting him.
Christ I know it says teleporting in my name but I can't timetravel.

Here's what really happened you schmuck


1) GNR takes a scummy selfish shot
2) I call him on it, and vote
3) He gives different reasons for his shot
4) Oversoul calls him out on it
5) I see a reason for my gut dislike of him

The reasons OS states ARE NOT the same ones I voted him for (hint: if that's what I'd meant I'd have said voted in there); they're the reasons I didn't like him, i.e. why I found him scummy but was unable to put my finger on. I was able to put my finger on my own reasons earlier when I voted him, but didn't quite know what it was that was setting me off against him at a later point beyond gut. Oversoul made that explicit.