↑ Thomith wrote:If you have a seer claim day 1 then you don't lynch it, obviously this doesn't clear slandaar, but with 2 scum reads of mine (1 now i guess but still) i was wary of the wagon to begin with.
If we lynch slandaar and he does flip seer then effectively we are getting rid of the only town role that can catch them (easily?) and giving them a free shot.
So you're saying let Slandaar live, so that the wolves must kill him tonight? If he's a seer he has just screwed himself. There is absolutely no way to protect him, and he has done a grand total of zero investigations. The wolves have zero incentive to let him live because he could rng into a wolf during the night, and out them the next day knowing he could die at any point. If he is a seer who is claiming truthfully, he has just crippled the town one way or another.
I do believe you're holding a little too hard and fast to your "How to Play Mafia" rulebook. What's to stop scum from claiming a town power role on day 1 to avoid a lynch? It's a no risk proposition on Day 1 normally. It has two potential wins: to keep the scum alive and to flush out the only town power role.
But it's one thing to claim Cop day 1 as scum, it's another thing entirely to claim seer in this setup. It is an incredibly anti-town play, and instead only speaks of self preservation.
And maybe I missed it, but why exactly were you wary of the Slandar wagon again?
↑ Om of the Nom wrote:
This was exactly what I meant, why the fuck are you guys calling me an idiot?
To call you an idiot would imply it was no fault of your own -- and I did not do you that favor. As for your language? Is that what you do any time someone disagrees with you? Flail into the night kicking and screaming wondering why someone can think you were wrong (I'm still waiting for you to post anything refuting what I said before fyi).
Although I disagree with Thomith's position, it is at least defensible in a "metagame" sense. There is a certain risk-reward calculus to it.
Meanwhile, you only said you believed his role claim, removed your vote, and then hid behind someone's reasoning while trying to attack someone else with essentially an OMGUS. There's no way what Thomith said could be "exactly what [you] meant." You said you believed Slandar's role claim. He said he thought lynching a claimed seer is a bad idea.
Those are two totally different positions. They're not reconcilable at all. You just pegged yourself as scum yet again. Congratulations.
