Open 387: Jungle Republic (Day 6 - ends in a Town Victory)

[Elmo TeH AzN]

why are we even discussing policy lynches?

Meta is good, you can always tell if somebody is scum or not (for me) based on meta.

I see what you mean, I saw his mafia lovers game and he acted exactly the same as town as he did scum.

Ugh, meta has failed me in this case.

Well, LaL, right? Lynch all lurkers...

Alright, I'll take that back on kass. But I do get town vibes off of him.

LaL.

Look at the mafiascum wiki.

It means both.

LaL.

Look at the mafiascum wiki.

It means both.

Even then its a PL at best.

[Chrimi]

So you think this is my scumgame?

Yep.

In a game I found you as town, you actually gave REASONS.

I have yet to see any logical ones from you in this game.

[Slandaar]

Kass is probably scum via POE
here are the town I might be wrong on the odd 1...
Me/Thomith/Om/Asher/Kondi
and maybe Elmo

thats 6/7 town

therefore chance of Kass being scum is 5/6 if im right or maybe 4/6 if im wrong on someone (elmo or om)

Kass at this point is a good lynch. A PL who very likely is scum is a good lynch. Especially now the chance of me investigating him and living is about 0

[Chrimi]

So, elmo doesn't like my buddying but doesn't see the whole slandaar / thomith thing?

[Slandaar]

In a game I found you as town, you actually gave REASONS.

That does not sound like me, also, to know if the reasons are 'logical' in said game implies you read the whole game or your perception is skewed.

Which one are you talking about?

Also I like how you say you looked at all my games and then here say you read 1 game where I gave legit reasons in my many town games

Seems like scum pretending they meta'd me...

[asher1611]

why are we even discussing policy lynches?

While we're at it, why is people's meta even getting drug into the discussion again? Didn't we already have this discussion early in the game day? Throwing meta everywhere distracts people from the game in front of them.

If the town is intent on lynching someone else and letting sland get away with a desperation claim, then shouldn't people actually be hunting?

I haven't seen anything that dissuades me from my vote or tells me anything particularly new (including my prior Kass suspicion and my prior OM suspicion -- OM who promised a response to my long post that included a vote for him, said it got 500 Forbidden'd, and has not addressed it since).

[Slandaar]

meh quote fails

[Slandaar]

not a desperation claim

legit claim to at least try and salvage something from the day before I get nked

[Chrimi]

Hmm?

I don't meta all of everybody's games...

I meta one game per player, and if it doesn't give a good amount of info then I meta another one.

If they end up looking scummy in the game, I meta another one of their games.

Meta is a tool that I prefer to use often.

And I was only referring to one of the games I read.

Anyways, stop asking about the ways I play, and lynch Slandaar please.

Let's head through to day 2, okay?

Slandaar, it would've helped town to wait until there was at least an intent to hammer declared.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

So, elmo doesn't like my buddying but doesn't see the whole slandaar / thomith thing?

What did I miss there? Sorry I did a big post here and no one says anything -_____-

But I don't really see them buddying but thats me.
And do you want to have replacements come in the night or just wait it out?

[Chrimi]

It would be best for them to come in the night, instead of mid-discussion.

You don't see the buddying?

The whole game they only agree with eachother's points and constantly have eachother as town reads. Seems like a lot more buddying than what I was doing.

[Slandaar]

I looked up all of the games (still on the site) of all of the players

I meta one game per player

Nice try but you are clearly lying.

[kondi2424]

I'm here.

Hey Slandaar, follow me!

[Chrimi]

Hmm, I must've said that wrong.

I said I looked up all of the games of all of the players- I meant I looked up games of all of the players.

[Chrimi]

I'm here.

Hey Slandaar, follow me!

Welcome back.

[Slandaar]

What we have learnt this game;
Chrimi and Om do not know how to meta, at all.

[Chrimi]

What I have learnt this game;

Slandaar doesn't know how to hate the playstyle not the player.

[asher1611]

It would be best for them to come in the night, instead of mid-discussion.

I disagree. You can still read the player's slot instead of just the player. Better than having an empty discussion when half the town has to be replaced.

What did I miss there? Sorry I did a big post here and no one says anything -_____-

I read your big post. I don't have too much to say or add other than to two parts of it:

#1

I can't really buy into #2 just because I understand the point of the seer and what not but why would the wolves want to lose a man advantage this early in the game knowing fully well then they would have to play an almost perfect game to nail mafia and pull a win. As for #1 its implausible.

Because if a wolf is about to be lynched day 1 anyway, there is nothing for team wolf to lose by false claiming seer and plenty to gain.

#2

Tomith is becoming my strongest town read. Here

I found Thom's vote of me to be understandable to an extent but misplaced. If he's trying to pressure vote me that's fine. But for the 2nd time this game he has criticized me for not backing up my words with a vote. Thus my not voting is suspicious. Yet when I do lay down a vote on Sland, suddenly I'm suspicious as well. A damned if I do damned if I don't kind of vote which apparently is all based on timing of when he semi-FOS'd me.

Don't get me wrong, I get why Thom voted. I've come to learn that people on this site are very GOGOGO about votes compared to other places I have played mafia. But context is key as well: I was in the middle of making a case against Sland. I broke that case up into multiple posts based on being able to tie in other people's responses as they were coming in. I don't think I had given any indication that I was unwilling to vote for Sland or had cold feet for voting for Sland, especially when I had already declared intent to hammer just as OM retracted his vote.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

It would be best for them to come in the night, instead of mid-discussion.

You don't see the buddying?

The whole game they only agree with eachother's points and constantly have eachother as town reads. Seems like a lot more buddying than what I was doing.

I just isoed both of them and really it starts about mid way down the page but if you're looking for something

Slandaar and u i think are scum team.
supporting.
ANd my vote stays

WHY though? You have yet to explain properly.

is the icing on the cake but Kass also said their the scum team. /shrug

Pedit: Asher its how I feel 9.10 times i make big posts no one reads.
But I understand but my suspiscion comes from reading the game as a whole your posting just seemed off. As for the unvote from Om what do you believe there?

[Slandaar]

Chrimi I hate no player or playstyle.

Show me the game you read which one was it?

[Chrimi]

It was one of your newbie games. I don't remember which one at the moment.

[asher1611]

Pedit: Asher its how I feel 9.10 times i make big posts no one reads.
But I understand but my suspiscion comes from reading the game as a whole your posting just seemed off. As for the unvote from Om what do you believe there?

I feel you there. My big post got pretty much ignored as well. Although that's nothing new compared to other places I have played.

"Seems off." So pretty much in your gut for now? I can accept that as you have already pointed to a few posts of mine that you believe to be problematic (and I have already addressed/answered to others who had problems with them).

I still believe OM is scum. I laid out a lot of my reasons in the big post -- mainly inconsistencies and defensive self metaing at the drop of a hat.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

"Seems off." So pretty much in your gut for now? I can accept that as you have already pointed to a few posts of mine that you believe to be problematic (and I have already addressed/answered to others who had problems with them).

Indeed.

[Thomith]

wow you really don't know how to meta do you chrimi, why meta a newbie game where peoples game is more prone to be a little different due to less activity?

also asher i voted you because i felt you only voted when pressured, yes i said you should vote, but your sland vote just seemed like a "oh fuck better vote" with little reasoning.

[Thomith]

also my original post still stands, i dont mind a kass lynch today, as they are a scum read, but really any of the om/kass/asher trio is fine by me.