Open 381 - Day 4

[Antihero]

wasn't even talking about you, hiplop <_<

@Kami: Still doesn't explain the "you can lynch Riggs tomorrow" statement.

[FuDuzn]

Your post is irrelevant and dumb, why would I waste my time responding to it?

I soft claimed cop and you vote me for being inactive instead of addressing the soft claim?

Wait what? We already have a vig claim and now you casually remark that you are the cop? Why??

FAKE OUTRAGE SENSES TINGLING

I have to admit, thought there was a regular cop in here as well(not sure why, just assumed), going back to his posts(201 to be exact like he said) I see the soft claim.

I would like to see how Antihero can prove he is not the role cop, and why did you think his soft claim was a scum claim?

And hiplop, why did you think he was talking about you(or do you has jokes)?

[Kamikrazy]

I thought I was pretty obvious soft claimed cop at that point based on my no-reasoning push to get the wagon off of GNR. (He was the scummiest player going into night 1, and for me to come out D2 and immediately say not to lynch him seemed like a pretty heavy soft claim). I figured if Scum picked up on the claim that they would Night Kill me, show i'm the cop and therefore prove GNR is innocent. If they didn't pick up on it then I get another free investigation off which would allow me to come out D3 with 3 confirmed town (Or 2 conf, 1 scum).

[hiplop]

i can has jokes (burger?) can't i?

[Kamikrazy]

EBWOP: Barring that my investigations didn't get killed.

[kondi2424]

So, Kami has claimed Cop?

What was your result, Kami?

[Kamikrazy]

Guy_Named_Riggs is the Vigilante.

[kondi2424]

Oh, ROLEcop. Coulda made that more clear.

I doubt they're lying. There's two scum left, and if they planned this out, they're retarded.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Well either way theres what a Goon and a Jailkeeper now right?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

@Elmo - Sorry for calling you an idiot.

No offence. But seriously lurking usally = scum.
I didn't see the crumb and when I did I thought nothing of it. But either way
UNVOTE: Kami
VOTE: Anti You know why.

[brizingre1]

@Elmo - Sorry for calling you an idiot.

No offence. But seriously lurking usally = scum.
I didn't see the crumb and when I did I thought nothing of it. But either way
UNVOTE: Kami
VOTE: Anti You know why.

Why?

Either Riggs and Kami are both scum, something that I would see as unlikely, or they're both town PRs. If they're both town, the chances are that there will either be 2 kills tonight, and/or one of them will be killed - either by scum or the real vigilante. I need to go back and relook at the hoko wagon but for now my vote remains on hiplop.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

@Elmo - Sorry for calling you an idiot.

No offence. But seriously lurking usally = scum.
I didn't see the crumb and when I did I thought nothing of it. But either way
UNVOTE: Kami
VOTE: Anti You know why.

Why?

Either Riggs and Kami are both scum, something that I would see as unlikely, or they're both town PRs. If they're both town, the chances are that there will either be 2 kills tonight, and/or one of them will be killed - either by scum or the real vigilante. I need to go back and relook at the hoko wagon but for now my vote remains on hiplop.

It wasn't at anyone but him. And Briz you should know as well as me now. That Scum have a Jailkeeper. Since GNR shot ours. Granted we lynched their PR we're back at Square 1. Odds are that one will be JK and the other will be killed.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

your reaction to pressure isn't golden, ponyboy.

but you act as if there is DEFINITELY a vig, only way you could know this is if 1. You're the vig, 2. You're scum. #2 is actually quite likely, this is a scumslip.

lynch it with fire.

Your post is irrelevant and dumb, why would I waste my time responding to it?

I soft claimed cop and you vote me for being inactive instead of addressing the soft claim?

WHY WOULD YOU CLAIM THIS!!!
I think antihero was saying that you had soft claimed scum. I knew that you were the cop and investigated me (why you were so agaisnt it, especially your first post of Day 2). But no one knew for sure until you posted this. Now you just made yourself a target for the mafia night kill

[Tajun]

Vote count 2.03

Elmo TeH AzN - 2 (Guy_Named_Riggs, Kamikrazy,) L-4
Antihero - 2 (hiplop, Elmo TeH AzN) L-4
hiplop - 2 (brizingre1, Antihero) L-4
Guy_Named_Riggs - 1 (Kassadin) L-5

Not Voting - 3 (Pizzadudes7, FuDuzn, kondi2424)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch
Deadline is set at Monday, April 23th, 9:00am EST.

[Kassadin]

vote:Anti

[Kamikrazy]

I don't think Anti pressuring my soft cop claim is really all that scummy. It's a pretty town motivated thing to do, because if he's scum he knows i'll have to flip at some point and it would look scummy if he was pushing a lynch on the real cop.

I would still prefer an Elmo lynch, who ended up voting me after the discussion of my soft cop claim and managed to ignore that while still trying to lynch me.

[Kamikrazy]

To clarify; I think Scum would have realized there was no point to argue against my soft claim. They know i'm the cop without any way to be protected, so i'm dead anyways. No reason to out yourself as potentially scummy when I flip when you can just wait till night time to take out the PR.

[FuDuzn]

I would still prefer an Elmo lynch, who ended up voting me after the discussion of my soft cop claim and managed to ignore that while still trying to lynch me.

Thing is, I didn't realize that you soft claimed role cop until after the fact.....same as Elmo. Best I can tell he voted you because he believed Antihero that you soft claimed scum(something I still don't get what he was seeing). I really don't think voting Elmo would be good, and the fact that Antihero was pressuring you for a supposed soft scum claim that shockingly no one saw but him, is kind of telling now with your revelation.

VOTE: Antihero

I don't buy that he saw you soft claimed rolecop, especially since he appeared to be trying to get a lynch on you.

[Antihero]

Seriously, I'm getting votes because I'm the only one that doesn't have his head up his ass?

It doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to deduce that Kami was soft claiming rolecop. It just takes a basic reading comprehension skills. Here, I'll guide ya'll though it.

Kami's whole "GNR isn't a good lynch target" was the soft claim. It's a soft claim because Kami does not give a single reason for it AND it happened to be near the start of the day, suggesting that Kami wants everyone to believe that he had gained extra information over night (and the only role that does that is.... the rolecop). It's soft, because Kami doesn't just come out and say "hey everyone, I'm the rolecop and I got negative results on GNR last night." Everyone get it now?

If not, please replace out and go back to the newbie queue.

Now, the reason I didn't buy it was Kami's post 207 which suggests that he thought hoko might be a mislynch,

which directly contradicts his cop softclaim

. AND Kami saying that "it was OK to lynch riggs tomorrow" also tipped me up to scummy false softclaiming (here). I still actually kind of don't get why a rolecop with a vig result on someone would say such a thing, but whatever.

CONCLUSION: Turns out, it's probably just a case of Kamikrazy and suboptimal PR play. He shouldn't have made post 207, as aggressive VTs call BS on power role claims all the time, and the only thing post 207 ended up doing was make his future breadcrumbing look like scummy softclaiming.

Alright, now reread this post. Everyone on the same page now?

[Antihero]

@Elmo - Sorry for calling you an idiot.

No offence. But seriously lurking usally = scum.
I didn't see the crumb and when I did I thought nothing of it. But either way
UNVOTE: Kami
VOTE: Anti You know why.

No, I do not know why, elmo. Do you?

Is it because you didn't see the crumb? I don't know, but you're wasting everyone's time with this kind of vagueness.

WHY WOULD YOU CLAIM THIS!!!
I think antihero was saying that you had soft claimed scum. I knew that you were the cop and investigated me (why you were so agaisnt it, especially your first post of Day 2). But no one knew for sure until you posted this. Now you just made yourself a target for the mafia night kill

oh jeez,
the level of fail in this game is reaching epic levels (and I don't mean that in a good way).

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Now, scummiest hop on my wagon was definitely Kassadin. This might just be the result of him not being able to form a single, clear thought all game though. He was late on the hoko wagon at the time of his vote (5th). He sheeped off of briz for his Riggs vote. And his reasonless jump to my wagon stinks of opportunism.

VOTE: Kassadin

Die, scum.

My guess for the other scum would go to Pizzadude or hiplop. Pizzadude lingering around without putting down a vote is scummy and hiplop wanting to debate me about his "sarcasm" a couple pages ago is also scummy (people can't see Kami's softclaim, but people can see the "sarcasm" in this failpost; uh-huh, I guess so)

[Kassadin]

Lol. Going for easy targets now?

[Antihero]

I see you at the bottom FuDuzn. You get the thing with Kami now?

I see you, too, Kassadin. Dazzle us.

[Antihero]

Lol. Going for easy targets now?

This =/= a valid argument

I would tell you to try again, but I'll just end up being disappointed.

[Kassadin]

CSB

[Antihero]

FFS

WTF AYTTO NOK

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