Open 382: Friends and Enemies in MSPaint! (Game Over)

[Hoopla]

Day 3, Vote Count #2

With nine alive, it takes

5

votes to lynch. Deadline is scheduled for 10:00 GMT, April 26th <Countdown>.

Slandaar -

1

(Alicewondering)

Kassadin -

1

(Rhinox)

Rainbowdash -

1

(Slandaar)

Not voting -

6

(Blueberry, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin, kondi2424, Haze, Rainbowdash)

[Slandaar]

I think kondi claimed so its too late for that now anyways

[Rhinox]

I think kondi claimed so its too late for that now anyways

Oh right... well barring any CC's, if the other 2 don't claim its not that bad for us vs. serving up all 3 masons on a platter and giving scum the option of killing them in the order they prefer. And there's still the best case scenario of only needing to lynch 2 of the 3 scum to win. I just don't see how having the masons claim improves our situation at all beyond some hypothetical numerical improvement for the 3 alive who are VT.

[Rainbowdash]

Did somebody say MASON?

Obviously since late D1. Im more interested in your partners since its two of five and four of those are my null reads. Not to get super pry-y but if Alice/Kass and Slaandar are not your partners, boy this would be a gold mine to know.

@Rhinox - I see your arguement, but when the masons obviously are falling in the null/town reads, they are just going to get wiped out quickly soon here either way. Its helpful to everypony who isnt a mason since it actually puts solid reads on those who arent really discussed. That and the fact that there are two who its already basically impossible to be mason with kondi. Also you apparently called my Slaandar vote because there is essentially zero way he is mason correct.

[kondi2424]

Just curious, who did you think my Masonbuddies COULDN'T be? Also, now that I've outed, should I claim my buddies?

[Rhinox]

Also you apparently called my Slaandar vote because there is essentially zero way he is mason correct.

Yes, thats exactly what I figured you were getting at.

eh maybe your right? idk. I mean there's only so many options left now anyways. Unless you're playing us, which I don't think to be the case, smart scum is going to realize you claimed not mason due to the 60% you threw out anyways (which only comes from VT who ID's slandar as for sure one of the 5 non-masons). So scum know of the 6 that aren't scum, 1 mason for sure (kondi), 2 for sure aren't mason (you and slandaar), so the choices are 2 out of the remaining 3 (or 4, if you or slandaar are actually scum).

I mean if scum aren't kondi, or you, or slandaar, or me, that leaves

{Blueberry
Alicewondering
Elmo TeH AzN
Kassadin
Haze}

Blueberry/Kass would be the top 2 obvious, the thrid not so obvious. Probably not haze, so elmo or alice?

Slandaar might actually fit in a Blueberry/Kass/Slan scumteam. Maybe I'm wrong to not include him.

Yeah you're probably right about it being claim time. Scum are going to figure it out anyways as its getting way to hard to send everything I want to say through the filter to stay ambiguous about whether I'm a mason or not.

[Rainbowdash]

Just curious, who did you think my Masonbuddies COULDN'T be? Also, now that I've outed, should I claim my buddies?

I would say claim partners, but it doesnt look like a super popular opinion at this point. Still think its super useful especially since through interactions there are two that obviously arent your partner, and if they are both town your partners are known to scum. Even its its a town-scum in those two, your partners are all in a group of three.

So yeah, claim them. With you being the one to claim I think it needs to be done.

With rhinox essentially claiming not mason you should just claim that Blueberry/Haze (I think) are your partners.

[Slandaar]

yeah masons just need to claim this games over with poe

[Rhinox]

With rhinox essentially claiming not mason you should just claim that Blueberry/Haze (I think) are your partners.

I think Alice/Haze now that you got me looking. Def. not elmo is the other def no right?

[kondi2424]

Rhinox is right, it's Alice and Haze.

[Slandaar]

so im basically clear

well scums kass/blue/elmo

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kass

[Rainbowdash]

Eh

Was hoping it wasnt both you and Alice because you were both obviously town.

So all scum in

Blueberry
Slandaar
Rainbowdash
Elmo
Kass
rhinox

Give me a little bit of time to figure stuff out here.

Remove self, remove both Slandaar and Kass together, assume one scum for simplicity

Two of Rhinox/ETA/Blueberry + One of Slandaar/Kass

Looks good.

I feel dirty for wanting to agree with Slandaar about the trio here, since I think rhinox is smart enough to realize that Tracey claimed VT day one.

Other unlikelyhoods

Kass-Rhinox
Blueberry-Slandaar

Noticeable high chance pairings

Kass/Blueberry/ETA
Rhinox/Slandaar/ETA
Blueberry/Rhinox/ETA

Vote ETA

This is a better start to me, but I wouldnt have too much of an issue voting Kass, but I think chances of a Slandaar and Kass town situation is noticeable enough to take shots at the other group.

[Slandaar]

Elmo sheeped me day1 a few times thereby making it very unlikely we are buddies

[Rainbowdash]

So then im town because of how everypony sheeped me day one/two?

Scum will follow other scum at times. Either way ETA is the lynch because the only pairings that leave him out assuming you-Kass arent power bussing are:

Rhinox/Blueberry/Slandaar
Rhinox/Blueberry/Kass

And second really isnt probably happening.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Nice to see I wake up to my name on the block -_- So Im scum by PoE?

[Rainbowdash]

Nice to see I wake up to my name on the block -_- So Im scum by PoE?

Eyup.

All masons are outted, so all scum are in five ponies.

I could lynch ETA or Blueberry today. They are almost for sure both scum.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Meh what else is new. Im always being called scum for one reason or another. So how do we know your not scum though. Your the one who went after the PL and the D1 lynch?

[Rhinox]

With Alice and Haze Masons, Blueberry/Elmo/Kass is almost for sure the scum team (see #355). If its one of Rainbow or Slandaar, I'd edge Slandaar as more likely scum than Rainbow.

I was thinking before Slandaar and Kass could be scum together, but I was only looking at slandaars iso. I forgot that slandaar was really the only one the kass wanted dead all game. So really the only 2 options I can see

Elmo/blue/kass
elmo/blue/slandar

elmo and blue have to be scum then.

unvote, vote: elmo

for-sure scum first then

[Slandaar]

I prefer lynching Kass but I really dont mind voting any of the 3 I named

I am confident that is the scumteam

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Elmo

[Rainbowdash]

Meh what else is new. Im always being called scum for one reason or another. So how do we know your not scum though. Your the one who went after the PL and the D1 lynch?

Im not confirmed town. Thats just the masons.

Who is scum, I already gave you the "If you are town" cheat sheet.

[Alicewondering]

Eh, well okay then. I am fine with lynching Elmo too. He was on my not-town list in the QT.

UNVOTE: Slandaar
VOTE: Elmo

[Rainbowdash]

@Rhinox - By merits of this post

Slandaar, u say everyones scum. even in our last game we played. u said i was scum but wat did it turn out? i wasnt scum troll

Kass and Slandaar are not partners. My only concern is about the outside chance of them both being town.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

So Im at L-1 now right?

[Rainbowdash]

Eyup

Who is scum?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Kass/Blueberry/ETA
Rhinox/Slandaar/ETA
Blueberry/Rhinox/ETA

Ill let you figure this out. I mean notice Im in all 3 lists. Its sorta interesting to say the least. Personally I think its BB