NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[drmyshotgun]

Explain my Town reads?

Are you saying here that you want people to explain their townreads on you or something else?

Nah, I just said that to amuse myself.
Also, yay, I snagged the top spot of the page.

[Antihero]

Hey Antihero. How's it going?

And personally I find that questioning townreads on yourself is scummy.

VOTE: Drmyshotgun

Just fine, thanks for asking, vijay2imtoocoolforashortusername.

You're using your vote poorly, though.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

AH have I mentioned how awesome you are lately? I'm doing it now.

Now, I agree with a lot of your town reads.

But you're going to have to sell me on your scum reads. I have a dead read on Jason, I think. His very first content post this game looked really town to me.

Like, quite honestly, you're one of the few players who could actually convince me to flip my reads in a game. (A prime reason for this is that you are so obviously town).

But right now, I have town reads on Jason and Shotty, a fairly null read on Maxous and a null read on Firestarter.

So sell me on these guys and I'll go take another look.

In return, I'll ask you to look at Rack one more time. Check my ISO, because I don't feel like the case against him is being fabricated. Infact, I feel like I have a very legitimate read on him, based on his early game actions.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

(BTW, this is why I let replacements have some rope to hang themselves with. Antihero is SO SO town in comparison to CCV.)

[Kublai Khan]

Catching up, 4 1/2 pages+.

Khan's last post isn't great imo. I read Mastin's scumhunting guide and personally I can see tone as a way to determine somebody as scum. Instead he chooses to attack mastin instead of the points he raised. Instead of explaining why the things mastin mentioned isn't scummy, he says that mastin sees everything he does as scummy. That made more sense in my head. Either way,

What the --? I explained why a shift in tone isn't scummy. Listen, you are not allowed to piggy-back on the words of the living embodiment of confirmation bias (mastin2). You have to come up with your own damn case.
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KK: Do you consider OMGUS scummy?

Under the right circumstances, I do. rack ignored a ton of questions directed at him and instead chose to echo mastin2's sentiments and vote the guy who is actively encouraging others to vote for him (me). If he had a previous history of thinking that I was scum, then it wouldn't be OMGUS, but his suspicion of me directly coincides with the fact that I'm campaigning for a bandwagon on him.

Yea. When someone calls someone out you don't really need to defend them for them.

Or at least I don't.Why do you feel it's "strange (possibly scummy)"? I don't really know him, but disagreeing is scummy?

At the time, I was just refreshing and waiting for new posts.
It was strange (and possibly scummy) because it was an over-reaction and/or a strongish defense.
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redFF's push on Candy Corn Vampire feels forced. I'm not seeing the case.
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Oh, moot-ness. Candy Corn Vampire is out. Hi Antihero.
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@vijay2vasandani - You realize that drmyshotgun claimed Universal Backup, right?

*more to come

[Antihero]

Hello Praetyre, I just saw you at the bottom of the page. Please either catch up or replace out so that your replacement doesn't have that much to catch up on.

Now, back to business:

jason hasn't necessarily dropped any strong scumtells so far; it's more of a noticeable absence of towntells. Pine is straddling the scum/null border for a similar reason as well. It's like when Khan said "making a lot of noise without really being productive" or something to that effect.

I'm not sure what you see in shotty. His only content so far is getting pissy with Nero, and I would think shotty's been here long enough to know better than that by now.

I don't know about rack, either; I'm looking at his whomping 5 posts and I'm not impressed, but a scumread isn't exactly jumping out of my computer and slapping me in the face (like this wagon would suggest).

Now, on to Firestarter...

[redFF]

vote:firestarter

antihero looks a lot better than ccv.

@Vijay when you said I annoyed your favorite player out of the game I assume you meant CCV, because she just replaced out of another game at the same time so she probably has something going down in real life.

Vijay voting Drmyshotgun. Vijay confirmed to be terrible, not sure if scum or town though.
Firestarter show me where nero was overdefensive of the shotty pl.

[Antihero]

Firestarter:

Post 266: As pointed out, first spoiler is super IIOA funtime.

Psyche scumread: aweful. his main objection pretty much boils down to "OMG, NO VOTE ON SHOTTY, SCUMZZZZ." weak.

and the subsequent strawmanning of mini-librarian = yuck

AND NOW COMES THE AWESOME PART, you know the part where he completely glosses over rack with "lolz, scumz".

AND THEN THE VOTE GOES ON RACK. What happened to all the harking on Psyche for not voting his suspect, shotty?

Post 299 what's with all this bussing nonsense; WITH NO FLIPS.

Oh look, and your reads are "in no particular order" now. Guess that lets you off the hook for your hypocrisy with Psyche ... OH WAIT, NO IT DOESN'T

Say what you want now to cover your ass, but your "reasoning" was a lot more substantial against Psyche and Nero than it was against rack

At the time I posted my reads, Psyche had about 3 posts? None with any real content except a rack vote.
rack had been gathering momentum so scum coming into the game and slapping a vote onto a player that was on the way to being
bandwagoned looked opportunistic. iirc correctly I was read up to #229.

So Psyche was "opportunistically" jumping on a scumbuddy's wagon? IN WHAT ALTERNATE UNIVERSE DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? If Psyche's jump really was "opportunistic," wouldn't that imply rack as town.

Also, you're flailing to defend your Psyche scumread and scumplaining about everyone else calling you scum, but there's LITTLE TO NO reasoning for your rack vote.

Here's the reasoning you've been so anxiously waiting for. What do you have to say now?

[Psyche]

Well I've disappointed myself. But now I'm over it.

Game is moving quickly and with loads of content. That's good in a sense. I'll try processing it now. Sorry this post is fluff. Expect real content within 24 hours.

[PeregrineV]

Vote Count 1-3

(as of Post 508)

rack (7)

- Benmage, The Mini-Librarian, drmyshotgun, Firestarter, Kublai Khan, Pine, Lady Lambdadelta

Firestarter (4)

- NihilisticNinja, Nero Cain, Antihero, redFF

Benmage (2)

- HezLucky, Macros

Pine (2)

- scooby, DeasVail

Nero Cain (2)

- drmyshottyizsik, Maxous

Kublai Khan (1)

- rack

Antihero (1)

- mastin2

Maxous (1)

- Psyche

Psyche (1)

- jasonT1981

drmyshotgun(1)

- vijay2vasandani

Not Voting (2)

- Junpei, Praetyre

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch

Deadline:

Thursday, May 3, 2012 3pm CST

Replacing:

No one

Prods:

Praetyre

V/LAs:

JunpeiApr15
The Mini-LibrarianApr16
jasonT1981Apr16

[Benmage]

Woah. The game looks like it zoomed a bit. I'm so shot from yesterday, and been busy spring cleaning.

I'll catching up as soon as I can.

[jasonT1981]

Back, but completely exhausted. Will catch up tomorrow. Its already late here and I am off to bed.

[HezLucky]

Checking in.

holy fuck thats a lot of pages.

will catch up soon.

[Junpei]

You guys post a lot, this better be worth reading.

[Macros]

Semi final on Saturday night, celebrations carried on trlhrough Sunday.
A quick read on the phone sees redff vehemently anti ccv then all nice to antihero, but antihero does seem like a more methodical and inno player.
I should enough free time at work to do a reread from where I was properly up too.
Posts on the game coming later

[Antihero]

LOL @ the flurry of "catch-up later" posts

whatever, do what you need to do.

[Nero Cain]

and mage and jasons were 3 mins apart OoOo

[vijay2vasandani]

Ugh fail. I forgot which game Shotgun claimed in X.X
UNVOTE:

Let's see..
VOTE: Pine

[Antihero]

Better

[DeasVail]

Better

[DeasVail]

My relevant thoughts at this stage:

I need more posts from rack and firestarter.

Pine is scummy.

[Junpei]

I need more posts from rack and firestarter.

But not from me? Why those 2?

[Kublai Khan]

My relevant thoughts at this stage:

I need more posts from rack and firestarter.

Pine is scummy.

Head A of rack has been proven to respond to voting pressure. We can revisit Pine later.

[DeasVail]

I need more posts from rack and firestarter.

But not from me? Why those 2?

I haven't attempted to read you yet.

[Nero Cain]

jun, why are you being so quiet this game?