Open 381 - Day 4

[kondi2424]

Kassadin basically townslipped. Even though he's pants-on-head, he's town.

We should lynch hiplop.

[Tajun]

Vote count 2.06

Kassadin - 4 (Antihero, Kamikrazy, brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN)

L-2

Antihero - 2 (hiplop, FuDuzn) L-4
Elmo TeH AzN - 1 (Guy_Named_Riggs) L-5
Kamikrazy - 1 (Kassadin) L-5
hiplop - 1 (kondi2424) L-5

Not Voting - 1 (Pizzadudes7)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch
Deadline is set at Monday, April 23th, 9:00am EST.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I thought I was caught scum
How has hiplop been caught as scum? What am I missing?

DId u just admit your scum?

I meant caught up
Thought ahead and wrote scum. This is why I shouldn't post late at night

[hiplop]

Kassadin basically townslipped. Even though he's pants-on-head, he's town.

We should lynch hiplop.

kondi you dont have the power to push a lynch SON

also i should be obviously town, cmon

[Elmo TeH AzN]

If hips town
GNR is town
Kami is town
Im town
Kass is town.

Anti/Kondi
Kondi/Pizza
Anti/Pizza
Pizza/Kondi

Are the only teams?
VOTE: Anti I like this.

[Antihero]

hips makes the town list and kondi and I don't?

WHAT ALTERNATE UNIVERSE DID I JUST ENTER?

[hiplop]

this is actually the real one, look at the sign

[Antihero]

Ah, I see.

/looks at sign

"Universe where half the player list needs to go back to the newbie queue and learn how to play the game."

Ah, thanks hip, got it.

[hiplop]

don't make fun of FuDzn like that

(:P)

[hiplop]

also, what makes you so sure that KONDI is town?

based on meta, he is more likely scum than town, and wouldnt be a bad policy lynch if it came down to it

[Antihero]

OH NO, HERE COMES THE LAZY META GAMERS AGAIN

Seriously kondi is an obvtown townie. Try again, maybe?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

If hips town
GNR is town
Kami is town
Im town
Kass is town.

Anti/Kondi
Kondi/Pizza
Anti/Pizza
Pizza/Kondi

Are the only teams?
VOTE: Anti I like this.

No it isn't. You're missing 2 people. Funduz and Brz.
Why did you not include them in this?

[hiplop]

OH NO, HERE COMES THE LAZY META GAMERS AGAIN

Seriously kondi is an obvtown townie. Try again, maybe?

i can read kondi pretty well MAN

why is he obvtown

YOU SCUM BUDDIES HUH HUH HUH

[Elmo TeH AzN]

If hips town
GNR is town
Kami is town
Im town
Kass is town.

Anti/Kondi
Kondi/Pizza
Anti/Pizza
Pizza/Kondi

Are the only teams?
VOTE: Anti I like this.

No it isn't. You're missing 2 people. Funduz and Brz.
Why did you not include them in this?

I didn't do it purposely. I was going off what everyones said

[kondi2424]

Hiplop, you can't read me. I'm confident in that.

[hiplop]

liar

[FuDuzn]

Is Antihero a Jora alt?

Why extactly is Kondi obv town? You were asked the question and gave no reason except ALL CAPS GUYS, HEY I AM MAD! And why are you so shocked that people don't think you are town? When people disagree with you you just fling insults at the expense of giving actual content.

And I am playing in a newbie game currently, happy?

[Antihero]

Is Antihero a Jora alt?

Why extactly is Kondi obv town? You were asked the question and gave no reason except ALL CAPS GUYS, HEY I AM MAD! And why are you so shocked that people don't think you are town? When people disagree with you you just fling insults at the expense of giving actual content.

And I am playing in a newbie game currently, happy?

Haters gonna hate, I guess.

Also, I'm nobody's alt.

Well then, why doesn't this reasoning apply to content-less Kass, who seems to be a "cool story bro" broken record? As for "content" I have as much of that in my ISO as you do.

And if you all don't want to be insulted, then quit pissing me off. Twice now, I've been called down for "OMG HE KNOWZ THEREZ A VIDGE, SCUMZ!" (that's my best understanding of why hiplop is currently voting me, actually). And if your hang up is really that I didn't explain in depth right then and there my kondi townread, then I really don't know what to tell you.

kondi is obvtown because he's one of few (others are Elmo and briz, who are also obvtown) people who are actually making an honest-looking attempt to scumhunt.

P.EDIT: Actually, if you want to get all pissy about "reasons", what's your "reasoning" for your vote? Because I spotted the Kami softclaim? I already addressed that. Because I won't "explain myself"? Take a look at the playerlist and tell me I'm the worst offender.

[Antihero]

DOUBLE POST

sorry for the clutter, guys

Anyway, just thought of something. If Kass ends up being town, there's no ways kondi is scum. Could any of you really see kondiscum having such a tempting Kasswagon go all the way up to L-1 and then he suddenly decides to derail it? Makes no sense.

Though if Kass ends up flipping scum, I might have to rethink my position on kondi...

[hiplop]

wait, did you just say elmo is actively trying to find scum and is being helpful?

okay then.

[FuDuzn]

EVERYONE UNVOTE RIGGS. AND NOBODY COUNTERCLAIM IF THIS IS A FAKE CLAIM.

Even he's lying, the real vig will shoot him tonight.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Kamikrazy

Scummy soft-claiming is scummy

.

UNVOTE:

Why are we voting Kami? Antihero you really are trying to make Kami look bad, especially after he said why he has been somewhat inactive(btw I saw he was being replaced out of other games, so I tend to believe him). Please point out his scum tell.

We? You mean me, right? Just trying to make poor Kami look bad.

First off, Kami has been posting in other games and not this one (a quick search of his forum posts will prove that). Selective lurking is a scumtell. But that's not even really the part that bothers me.

Scummy soft-claiming is scummy.

This is. If you don't see it, I can't make you see it. Hint: read parts where he's talking about Riggs.

your reaction to pressure isn't golden, ponyboy.

but you act as if there is DEFINITELY a vig, only way you could know this is if 1. You're the vig, 2. You're scum. #2 is actually quite likely, this is a scumslip.

lynch it with fire.

Click here.
Then click here.
Now read this again.
Seriously, WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS.

THIS IS AN OPEN F'ING GAME. THERE'S 1 VIG, 1 JK, 1 BACK UP ROLECOP ON THE TOWN SIDE.

THE ONLY THING THAT NEEDS TO BY LYNCHED WITH FIRE IS YOU

UNVOTE:
VOTE: hiplop

DON'T THINK YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK, SOFT-CLAIMING SCUM KAMIKRAZY

.

My posting in other games is in games that are just starting and as such don't require as much time to read through and think about. I've been replaced in over half of my games; i'm not selectively lurking. I'm just truly busy.

Why do you automatically assume that my soft-claiming is scummy?

Because you're not the cop, and I can prove it using this thread

.

Seriously, I'm getting votes because I'm the only one that doesn't have his head up his ass?

It doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to deduce that Kami was soft claiming rolecop. It just takes a basic reading comprehension skills. Here, I'll guide ya'll though it.

Kami's whole "GNR isn't a good lynch target" was the soft claim. It's a soft claim because Kami does not give a single reason for it AND it happened to be near the start of the day, suggesting that Kami wants everyone to believe that he had gained extra information over night (and the only role that does that is.... the rolecop). It's soft, because Kami doesn't just come out and say "hey everyone, I'm the rolecop and I got negative results on GNR last night." Everyone get it now?

If not, please replace out and go back to the newbie queue.

Now, the reason I didn't buy it was Kami's post 207 which suggests that he thought hoko might be a mislynch,

which directly contradicts his cop softclaim

. AND Kami saying that "it was OK to lynch riggs tomorrow" also tipped me up to scummy false softclaiming (here). I still actually kind of don't get why a rolecop with a vig result on someone would say such a thing, but whatever.

CONCLUSION: Turns out, it's probably just a case of Kamikrazy and suboptimal PR play. He shouldn't have made post 207, as

aggressive VTs call BS on power role claims all the time

, and the only thing post 207 ended up doing was make his future breadcrumbing look like scummy softclaiming.

Alright, now reread this post. Everyone on the same page now?

So, you try to pester Kami saying he soft claimed scum and basically make him fully claim role cop.......then cover your ass by saying that VT's call BS on power role claims all the time. How is this possibly a town motivated play?

'Hey guys, I am the only one who saw our role cop soft claim. I think I should call him super scummy so he now has to fully claim role cop.......that has to be a town strategy right? Right??'

[Antihero]

wait, did you just say elmo is actively

trying to find scum

and is

being helpful

?

okay then.

Bolded is true. Underlined might not be so much.

Alright, well FuD is just flippantly dismissing my explanation as "covering my ass" so there's nothing much more for me to say on it.

'Hey guys, I am the only one who saw our role cop soft claim. I think I should call him super scummy so he now has to fully claim role cop.......that has to be a town strategy right? Right??'

No, this is misrepresenting it. At the time, I thought the softclaiming was scummy (already been over why), so I called him on it (of course I'm not going to let it slide until the endgame).

[kondi2424]

So Elmo, why is hiplop town?

[FuDuzn]

wait, did you just say elmo is actively

trying to find scum

and is

being helpful

?

okay then.

Bolded is true. Underlined might not be so much.

Alright, well FuD is just flippantly dismissing my explanation as "covering my ass" so there's nothing much more for me to say on it.

'Hey guys, I am the only one who saw our role cop soft claim. I think I should call him super scummy so he now has to fully claim role cop.......that has to be a town strategy right? Right??'

No, this is misrepresenting it. At the time, I thought the softclaiming was scummy (already been over why), so I called him on it (of course I'm not going to let it slide until the endgame).

You completely backtracked once he fully claimed role cop, it was only then you tried to explain what you did(and tried to cover your ass by explicitly saying that VT's do what you have done all the time). Quite simply you were rolefishing, and it appears that you won.

[Antihero]

Oh, please. If I sat and hashed it out before he full claimed, I bet it wouldn't have made a difference to you.