↑ saulres wrote:I'll need to look at CCV's slot tomorrow.
Also numberQ has two posts, including what he says was the hammer, so that needs to be looked into as well. Plus, of course, Oversoul. And I'd like to look at the people who were saying "No, the case against GNR was bad" (hint: It wasn't) because that group could easily consist of scum who knew he'd flip town and were "defending" him for towncred. So that's my agenda for tomorrow.
Agenda completed. Results thusly:
CCV
's slot seems town, or at least I see nothing scummy about it.
NumberQ
- need more content. Two posts does not scum make, but another "come in to hammer" either is indicative of a scum or, well, a worst role. But even if it is a role ("has to hammer when the option is there") then he needs to be removed before LyLo at the latest, so the scum can't use him to quicklynch. I'll be putting a vote here if he's the next hammer.
Oversoul
: I find it interesting that his anger over being voted seems to parallel that of Hippo's. Possibly a connected 3rd-party group? Lookit:
↑ Teleporting Speed Hippos wrote:if I get less votes than the night number, I remain unsigned which gives me special power X.
I could see that "special power" not being particular to Hippo, but rather, to an entire 3rd-party group, where they collectively get something if they meet some kind of voting criteria.
Regardless, what I completely don't understand is how he went from "
I personally do not find BB scummy" to thinking that because Tierce is voting for Oversoul,
BB
is worthy of a vote, especially instead of Tierce. I just don't follow that flow
at all
.
Now onto those who said the case against GNR's was bad. There were two: Shadowgirl and Red Panda.
Shadowgirl
, who could have commented after the wagon started, completely avoided saying anything about it until
471 where she thought the hammer was done and says "despite the somehow 'incredibly obvious' tells that he's scum, I'm totally calling that he's town".
In
479 she says "you would think that he would try and pay attention to not contradict himself". Yes, Shadowgirl, I do think that if he were scum he would try not to contradict himself, and that's why I (and others iirc) called it a "slip", as compared to "an intentional action". And I've caught scum who did exactly that, slip because they weren't paying attention, and contradicted themselves.
Shadowgirl, why did you not say anything about the wagon until after you thought it was over?
[Shadowgirl's V/LA ends when mine begins, so we probably won't be able to discuss for over a week. Still plenty of time before the deadline]
Red Panda
was in an argument with TSP most of the wagon, but gives his reasons for not voting in
422. I'm not sure whether he means ISO #10 or 11 when he refers to "eleventh post" but at least he says he likes the Elmo kill, giving a reason for thinking GNR was town (unlike Shadowgirl who gave no reason).
I do find a contradiction, though: In
203 he says he's going to vote Agent_Ireland "tomorrow", which is today -- so where's the vote?
Also, Red Panda, does chimera's leaving the game change your opinion of his slot being scum? And is Foxace36 posting in your QT? Because he sure ain't posting here...
[Full disclosure: When ISOing Red Panda I didn't look at the arguments back and forth with Hippo, because of Hippo's non-town flip]
