Mini 1320--Redwall Mafia: Spirit Lore (The Sun Has Set)

[Zdenek]

I'm lost at what you're trying to ask.

I voted Hiplop for above reasons on D1.
That day ended with Korlash wasting lynch in my absence.( I found it scummy and felt he needed to be lynched immediately on D2)
So,I voted korlash on D2 and stayed with it.

What exactly in this sequence is not clear to you? or how is this even relevant to each other? -____-
Are you sure you're asking this to right person? because I didn't change vote to Hiplop when I thought korlash was scum.

A hypo claim is you claiming cop/investigative/any other results even if you're not a cop or PR. That way, after a cop/PR dies, we can see his results each night, but (s)he's not outing himself.

Here was your post on the morning of / night before the day one deadline:

@Rat, I don't know if you realize this or not, but I could have easily shipped my vote on you if I wanted when korlash was asking for it.

@Korlash, you better have good reasons if you're not scum for this stunt *thinks of certain game and your scum reads due to this same gambit*
I don't buy it.

You are suspicious of Korlash in it, but you don't vote for him and the next day you are suspicious of Korlash for wasting a lynch. This makes absolutely no sense, if you were at all concerned about wasting a lynch, you would have voted for Korlash in that post.

I think that iStark is scum, who wanted to avoid bussing Korlash, but who also wanted to get credit some credit for being right about him when he flipped scum.

Considering this is a theme game with unusual roles, a dead investigative role and a 1 shot doc is out, I don't think that hypoclaiming will be useful.

[iStark]

I was pointing out the fact that gamble was stupid for townie not calling him lynch worthy scum at that moment & I thought there were better targets available, you guys just never jumped on them in time.
I voted him on D2 because he still didn't correct himself nor gave satisfactory explanation for it, hence it was waste.
If this was not clear to you, I'm done arguing about this.

You're suggesting let the other PR's die without even knowing what they did on night in this critical stage? good job Mr.scum.
How is that dead investigator and dead doc is even factoring in? it has practically nothing to do with them, are you sure you understood that thing?

[DarthYoshi]

Day Three, Vote Count the First

iStark (1): Zdenek
Zdenek (1): iStark
Not Voting (4): pappums rat, riceballtail, Junpei, hiplop

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch and 3 to no lynch.

The deadline is currently set for 7:00 pm PDT (GMT-7) on Monday, April 23.

As ever, any questions or concerns, please let me know.

[hiplop]

VOTE: zdenenic
with korlash flipping scum, you and junpei look the worst - junpei feels town enough i guess though

[Zdenek]

VOTE: zdenenic
with korlash flipping scum, you and junpei look the worst - junpei feels town enough i guess though

Elaborate.

[Riceballtail]

I think the real issue is that Rat pretty much just called the vig out to claim with his "one shot", but yet for whatever reason nobody cares? Seems a bit too strongly like PR fishing of scared scum.

Vote:Rat

[iStark]

I think the real issue is that Rat pretty much just called the vig out to claim with his "one shot", but yet for whatever reason nobody cares? Seems a bit too strongly like PR fishing of scared scum.

Vote:Rat

Could you elaborate I don't seem to recall this.
Quote posts if you have to.

[Riceballtail]

I think due to the fact that there was one kill on N1 and now two on N2, I think it would be a good idea for me to claim at this point.

I am Bella of Brockhall. I am a spirit and I had a one shot ability called "Woodland Medicine". It was a one-shot ability that let me protect a player from one attempt on their life that night. I chose to protect Junpei N1. If there is a vig I think you should claim at this point and tell us who you killed/attempted to kill.

This.

Also, the fact he refused to put a vote down yesterday, so as to not draw attention to being the hammer on the wrong wagon OR hammer his buddy.

[hiplop]

VOTE: Rat

thats better.

[Junpei]

vote hiplop

This is even better.

[Zdenek]

Here is where I am at regarding PoE:

Pappums: I strongly believe that Pappums is town. There are other reasons, but I think that his claim alone should be convincing enough. First of all, when he made it he was hoping to get two confirmed townies out of it Junpei and the vig, which is mildly risky. Secondly, he didn't leave the door open to make a claim about going somewhere last night, which he would have wanted to do if he was scum because of the possibility of a tracker, which becomes almost a full cop when there is one scum left, which I think is a safe assumption. It would take a very strong argument for me to back this lynch today.

Riceballtail: I cannot rule out the possibility that Riceballtail is scum, but her tunneling on me early seems somewhat townie, but not townie enough that I think as scum she would have stayed off the Korlash wagon. So while I know that the argument is wifomy, I think that the probability that she is scum is quite low.

The Hiplop situation is similar, I don't think his play is that of someone trying to get to endgame, so I don't want to lynch him today.

Junpei, I am iffy on because some of his interactions with Korlash seem off to me, specifically where he comments that he thinks that Korlash will be able to talk his way out of the lynch on day one and when he unvoted Korlash, but voted for quadz on day two. However, I do not think that he is the right lynch today because of his push on BV / Korlashon day one.


So, that leaves iStark. Let's lynch him.

[iStark]

@Rice fair enough.

VOTE: Rat

[DarthYoshi]

Prodding pappums rat.

[pappums rat]

Vote: iStark

Newman's irrational take on the bv wagon.

iStark's change of opinion on Korlash between day one and day two.

To some extent PoE.

Obviously there would be change in opinion since ''someone'' wasted lynch and that was not town motivated, I'm at loss of words if you need PR to tell you that.

VOTE: Zdenek

Obviously trying to find easy target for D3 lynch, good job outing yourself scum.

LOL OMGUS.

I think due to the fact that there was one kill on N1 and now two on N2, I think it would be a good idea for me to claim at this point.

I am Bella of Brockhall. I am a spirit and I had a one shot ability called "Woodland Medicine". It was a one-shot ability that let me protect a player from one attempt on their life that night. I chose to protect Junpei N1. If there is a vig I think you should claim at this point and tell us who you killed/attempted to kill.

I've thought about what Pappums is trying to accomplish, and I just want to say that I have relevant information that prevents Junpei from being cleared if a vig claims the vijay kill. I'll full claim if it's desired.

Yes, all things considered I think this is a good idea. In fact at this point, I would endorse a massclaim. With this many PRs outed already, I think we could narrow down a lynch candidate from the information gained through a MC.

I think the real issue is that Rat pretty much just called the vig out to claim with his "one shot", but yet for whatever reason nobody cares? Seems a bit too strongly like PR fishing of scared scum.

Vote:Rat

I think due to the fact that there was one kill on N1 and now two on N2, I think it would be a good idea for me to claim at this point.

I am Bella of Brockhall. I am a spirit and I had a one shot ability called "Woodland Medicine". It was a one-shot ability that let me protect a player from one attempt on their life that night. I chose to protect Junpei N1. If there is a vig I think you should claim at this point and tell us who you killed/attempted to kill.

This.

Also, the fact he refused to put a vote down yesterday, so as to not draw attention to being the hammer on the wrong wagon OR hammer his buddy.

Zdenek pretty much laid out why I would claim and ask for the vig to claim as well. More confirmed townies makes for a smaller lynch pool.

Dear hiplop, you are utterly useless. You dont give reasoning for votes, you havent made a case on anyone the entire game, and every post is a one-liner. If you are town and lose another game in LYLO I am going to be seriously pissed.

@Rice fair enough.

VOTE: Rat

Opportunistic vote is opportunistic. What about RBT's posts made me scum over Zdenek, who you have been on all day so far? This, taken with his lack of good logic in his back and forth with Zdenek, and the fact that he replaced Newman =

Vote: iStark

BTW folks, I am currently at L-1. Just letting you know so no one can claim they "accidently" hammered.

[Riceballtail]

@Rat (and thus Zdenek as well): Claiming just one-shot doc would mean that you could have saved your shot. Instead, if you are now the only (used) protective role, you have given scum the ability to freely kill with no concerns of the "who" or "why". Your plan is flawed in that you are assuming:

1) That you protected a kill at all (since we can believe Quadz's investigation holds true, that would imply that Korlash had chosen the "kill" protection instead).
2) You protected the vig kill instead of scum kill.
3) The vig had even shot N1.

If the vig is multishot (which I'm not sure of, given that the rest of the PRs thus far are supposedly one-shot as well) then their claiming is actually the least beneficial thing that they can do as their ability to kill scum if we mislynch today. Obviously, at this point, since everyone else has posted since your call for a vig claim, we can assume that the vig disagrees with you also.

I'm now completely convinced that the last scum exists within Rat or Zdenek, as they're the only ones who want the vig to out themselves.

[pappums rat]

The simple fact is that there was one kill N1 and two on N2. I figured by outing myself and having the vig claim, there was the possibility of clearing townies to narrow our candidates for lynch today. I think that lynchiing scum today would be more beneficial than having a vig take a shot in the dark with the scum not knowing who they are and just hope said vig targets scum.

[Zdenek]

RBT - I do not want the vig to out himself. I never even suggested it.

[Zdenek]

If you read, I even claimed something to prevent it.

[iStark]

Lol aat Lol OMIGUS.xD
Talk about derping.

[DarthYoshi]

Prodding Junpei and hiplop.

[pappums rat]

Lol aat Lol OMIGUS.xD
Talk about derping.

OMGUS is exactly what it was. Zdenek made good points about you and then you tried to turn it back on him with shit arguments.

[iStark]

Lol aat Lol OMIGUS.xD
Talk about derping.

OMGUS is exactly what it was. Zdenek made good points about you and then you tried to turn it back on him with shit arguments.

That's why I loled ^^

[Riceballtail]

If you read, I even claimed something to prevent it.

It was to include you in the sense of the explanation part of his claim being bad. It just naturally flowed into the vig claiming part. Sorry for the misrep.

[Junpei]

So..

This is pathetic. Why can't we lynch hiplop?

I'll settle for iStark before lynching Zedenek

[Zdenek]

Newman's reaction to the early BV wagon makes the case against iStark better than the case against anyone else. There is no way he should be alive in MYLO/ LYLO. Today is the day to lynch him.