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↑ Lord Mhork wrote:But. Why. Didn't. You. Wait. Until. The. Claim. Was. Over??????????????
This. A VT had already been claimed.
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Just slightly V/LA now.
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How are you not understanding?
What you're basically saying is that no scum would be dumb enough to fall for such a simple ploy, so we shouldn't try. It doesn't work that way. I'd vote you, but we still have to decide on a vig. Who's your scum buddy?
IF SCUM HAD LIED WE WOULD HAVE FOUND THEM!
What you're basically saying is that no scum would be dumb enough to fall for such a simple ploy, so we shouldn't try. It doesn't work that way. I'd vote you, but we still have to decide on a vig. Who's your scum buddy?
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↑ Lord Mhork wrote:IF SCUM HAD LIED WE WOULD HAVE FOUND THEM!
I already explained this in 648.
...I also like your kondi-slip there. Very nice. Thus I agree with Phil...
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Up to page 12 and knowing Maru was LYNCHED makes me confused and irritated at you guys.
Also, Phil you want to give me a hand with some data crunching? You guys did some silly d1 that could be really useful at this point - if you'd compile the vig requests AND the hypoclaims in one spot once I'm done we throw in some VCA spice and see if this pans out.
At this point I have warmish feelings about Lowell and Phil ... thats it. Of the rest alive I'm not stoked about any oneelse
Also, Phil you want to give me a hand with some data crunching? You guys did some silly d1 that could be really useful at this point - if you'd compile the vig requests AND the hypoclaims in one spot once I'm done we throw in some VCA spice and see if this pans out.
At this point I have warmish feelings about Lowell and Phil ... thats it. Of the rest alive I'm not stoked about any oneelse
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Caught up and maan D2 was a bad day.
Going to do some VCA but gut says its Chimera and Mhork. Lowell is my probably town and even though TML went from "really good" to "really scummy" D2 that early day stuff gives me some pause.
Regardless the chances of it being Lowell-TML are so balls minimal that at minimum there is one between Chim and Mhork. If ONLY one there I'd lean Chim but I'll see what the VCA says.
Going to do some VCA but gut says its Chimera and Mhork. Lowell is my probably town and even though TML went from "really good" to "really scummy" D2 that early day stuff gives me some pause.
Regardless the chances of it being Lowell-TML are so balls minimal that at minimum there is one between Chim and Mhork. If ONLY one there I'd lean Chim but I'll see what the VCA says.
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(2) (, )
(1) (The Mini-Librarian)
(1) (Phillammon)
(1) ()
(1) The Mini-Librarian ()
(1) ()
(6) Not Voting (, Chimera, SpyreX, Lord Mhork, Lowell, )
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(4) (Lord Mhork, , The Mini-Librarian, )
(2) (, Lowell)
(2) (, Phillammon)
(1) ()
(1) The Mini-Librarian ()
(3) Not Voting ( Chimera, SpyreX,)
Vote Count 1-3
(2) (The Mini-Librarian, )
(2) (, Lowell)
(2) (, Phillammon)
(1) ()
(1) The Mini-Librarian ()
(1) Phillammon (Lord Mhork)
(1) ()
(3) Not Voting ( Chimera, SpyreX,)
Vote Count 1-4
(5) Phillammon (Lord Mhork, Lowell, Chimera,, )
(3) (The Mini-Librarian, , Phillammon)
(1) ()
(1) ()
(1) The Mini-Librarian ()
(2) Not Voting (SpyreX,)
Vote Count 1-5
(4) (, Lord Mhork, , Phillammon)
(2) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera)
(2) (, )
(1) (The Mini-Librarian)
(1) ()
(3) Not Voting (SpyreX,, )
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(4) (, Lord Mhork, , Phillammon)
(4) (, , , The Mini-Librarian)
(3) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera,)
(2) Not Voting (SpyreX,)
Vote Count 1-7
(5) (, , , The Mini-Librarian, )
(3) (Lord Mhork, , Phillammon)
(3) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera,)
(2) Not Voting (SpyreX,)
Vote Count 1-8
(5) (, , The Mini-Librarian, , )
(3) (Lord Mhork, , Phillammon)
(2) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera)
(3) Not Voting (SpyreX,, )
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(6) (, The Mini-Librarian, , , Phillammon, )
(2) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera)
(1) (Lord Mhork)
(4) Not Voting (SpyreX,, , )
Vote Count 1-10
(6) (, The Mini-Librarian, , Phillammon, , )
(2) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera)
(1) (Lord Mhork)
(4) Not Voting (SpyreX,, , )
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(7) (, The Mini-Librarian, , , , Lowell, Phillammon)
(1) Phillammon (Chimera)
(1) (Lord Mhork)
(4) Not Voting (SpyreX,, , )
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(2) (Phillammon, )
(1) Lowell (The Mini-Librarian)
(8) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX, Lord Mhork, Lowell,, )
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(3) (, The Mini-Librarian, Phillammon)
(1) ()
(5) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX, Lord Mhork, Lowell,)
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(3) (, The Mini-Librarian, Phillammon)
(2) (, Lord Mhork)
(4) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX, Lowell,)
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(3) (, Lord Mhork, Phillammon)
(2) (, The Mini-Librarian)
(5) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX, Lowell,)
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(3) (, Lord Mhork, Phillammon)
(3) (, The Mini-Librarian, Lowell)
(3) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX,)
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(3) (, Lord Mhork, Phillammon)
(3) (, The Mini-Librarian, Lowell)
(3) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX,)
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(5) (, Lord Mhork, Phillammon, Chimera, The Mini-Librarian)
(2) (, Lowell)
(2) Not Voting (SpyreX,)
(2)
IceGuy
IceGuy
kondi2424
(1)
Candy Corn Vampire
(1)
Maruchan
(1)
Pizzadudes7
MrStrife
(1) The Mini-Librarian (
Maruchan
(1)
MrStrife
Fennin
(6) Not Voting (
Candy Corn Vampire
Pizzadudes7
Vote Count 1-2
(4)
kondi2424
Maruchan
Fennin
(2)
IceGuy
IceGuy
(2)
Fennin
Candy Corn Vampire
(1)
Pizzadudes7
MrStrife
(1) The Mini-Librarian (
kondi2424
(3) Not Voting ( Chimera, SpyreX,
Pizzadudes7
Vote Count 1-3
(2)
kondi2424
Fennin
(2)
IceGuy
IceGuy
(2)
Fennin
Candy Corn Vampire
(1)
Pizzadudes7
MrStrife
(1) The Mini-Librarian (
kondi2424
(1) Phillammon (Lord Mhork)
(1)
Candy Corn Vampire
Maruchan
(3) Not Voting ( Chimera, SpyreX,
Pizzadudes7
Vote Count 1-4
(5) Phillammon (Lord Mhork, Lowell, Chimera,
Maruchan
MrStrife
(3)
kondi2424
Fennin
(1)
Fennin
Candy Corn Vampire
(1)
IceGuy
IceGuy
(1) The Mini-Librarian (
kondi2424
(2) Not Voting (SpyreX,
Pizzadudes7
Vote Count 1-5
(4)
Maruchan
kondi2424
Fennin
(2) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera)
(2)
Fennin
Candy Corn Vampire
IceGuy
(1)
kondi2424
(1)
Candy Corn Vampire
Maruchan
(3) Not Voting (SpyreX,
Pizzadudes7
MrStrife
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(4)
Maruchan
kondi2424
Fennin
(4)
Fennin
Candy Corn Vampire
IceGuy
MrStrife
(3) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera,
Maruchan
(2) Not Voting (SpyreX,
Pizzadudes7
Vote Count 1-7
(5)
Fennin
Candy Corn Vampire
IceGuy
MrStrife
kondi2424
(3)
Maruchan
Fennin
(3) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera,
Maruchan
(2) Not Voting (SpyreX,
Pizzadudes7
Vote Count 1-8
(5)
Fennin
IceGuy
MrStrife
kondi2424
Maruchan
(3)
Maruchan
Fennin
(2) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera)
(3) Not Voting (SpyreX,
Pizzadudes7
Candy Corn Vampire
Vote Count 1-9
(6)
Fennin
MrStrife
kondi2424
Fennin
Maruchan
(2) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera)
(1)
Maruchan
(4) Not Voting (SpyreX,
Pizzadudes7
Candy Corn Vampire
IceGuy
Vote Count 1-10
(6)
Fennin
MrStrife
kondi2424
Maruchan
Candy Corn Vampire
(2) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera)
(1)
Maruchan
(4) Not Voting (SpyreX,
Pizzadudes7
IceGuy
Fennin
Vote Count 1-11
(7)
Fennin
MrStrife
kondi2424
Maruchan
Candy Corn Vampire
(1) Phillammon (Chimera)
(1)
Maruchan
(4) Not Voting (SpyreX,
Pizzadudes7
IceGuy
Fennin
Vote Count 2-1
(2)
Maruchan
kondi2424
(1) Lowell (The Mini-Librarian)
(8) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX, Lord Mhork, Lowell,
Maruchan
MrStrife
Vote Count 2-2
(3)
kondi2424
Maruchan
(1)
Maruchan
kondi2424
(5) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX, Lord Mhork, Lowell,
MrStrife
Vote Count 2-3
(3)
kondi2424
Maruchan
(2)
Maruchan
kondi2424
(4) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX, Lowell,
MrStrife
Vote Count 2-4
(3)
Maruchan
kondi2424
(2)
kondi2424
Maruchan
(5) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX, Lowell,
MrStrife
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(3)
Maruchan
kondi2424
(3)
kondi2424
Maruchan
(3) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX,
MrStrife
Vote Count 2-6
(3)
Maruchan
kondi2424
(3)
kondi2424
Maruchan
(3) Not Voting (Chimera, SpyreX,
MrStrife
Vote Count 2-7
(5)
Maruchan
kondi2424
(2)
kondi2424
Maruchan
(2) Not Voting (SpyreX,
MrStrife
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↑ Chimera wrote:↑ Lord Mhork wrote:IF SCUM HAD LIED WE WOULD HAVE FOUND THEM!
I already explained this in 648.
...I also like your kondi-slip there. Very nice. Thus I agree with Phil...
Elaborate on that 'slip,' yeah?
And this is explaining?
↑ Chimera wrote:↑ Lord Mhork wrote:Well did you ever consider the possibility that Phillammon was attempting to draw out false Power Role claims in order to find obv-scums to lynch and shoot for the glorious win? Gah!
Briefly. And then I realized that considering we've had two PR flips, one living PR, and the mafia knowing (almost...one case where there is uncertainty) how many Ts were rolled (assuming they're not idiots) it's either ridiculously simple and inconclusive for them to fake-claim PRs or they'd spot it from a mile away; either way all it proves is that the scum are lying, which is basically a given. As in, the gambit was null. Also, considering that Phil is relatively new it was a possibility that he had miscalculated and wind up believing someone scum for the wrong reasons...which is why I wanted to make sure he wasn't just making a simple mistake.
But they might have made a mistake.
There is absolutely the possibility scum would have slipped up and tried to fake a power role. You seem to know differently. Anyway, all gambits are null until the
end
. You do not, nor have you any way, of knowing whether or not scum would have fallen for this trick--that is, unless you're scum. Even then, you had to make sure your partner didn't do anything antsy, which actually strengthens the idea of a The Mini-Librarian partnership. After all, he is a newbie himself.In any event. This explains nothing. You have yet to state why you made this moronic declaration
before the popcorning was over.
Pointing out which calculation we likely are on wouldn't in itself be scummy. The way you did it is basically a scum claim.Show
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You're still overlooking simple things. Will reply fully when I have access to a computer/after my final.
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If you see me joining a large game, please smack me repeatedly.
Just slightly V/LA now.
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With
6
players alive, it takes 4
votes to lynch.The deadline for Day 3 is
1 May 2012 @ 3:27pm U.S. Central Standard Time
.There will be no kisses tonight
There will be no holding hands tonight
'Cause what is now wasn't there before and should not be
There will be no holding hands tonight
'Cause what is now wasn't there before and should not be
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In any case, hash or not, the claim has given us information. What we do now is simple. We figure out three lynches. One regular lynch, and two lynches conditional on the flip. We lynch one, vig the other. As for the vote crunching, here goes:
Total votes (a = 1 vote)
All I can glean from this is that I'm a terrible voter, and that Mr. Strife was doing a great job of going undetected. Shame. What do you guys make of it?
Total votes (a = 1 vote)
From\To | Chimera | Lord Mhork | Lowell | Phillammon | Spyrex's slot | TML | Fennin | CCV | Iceguy | Pizza | Maru | Kondi | MrStrife |
Chimera | X | a | a | ||||||||||
Lord Mhork | X | a | aa | a | |||||||||
Lowell | X | a | a | a | a | aa | |||||||
Phil | X | aaaa | aaaa | aaa | |||||||||
Spyrex's slot | X | ||||||||||||
TML | a | X | a | a | a |
All I can glean from this is that I'm a terrible voter, and that Mr. Strife was doing a great job of going undetected. Shame. What do you guys make of it?
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