Worst Role Mafia - GAME OVER!

[izakthegoomba]

kdowns replaces Candy Corn Vampire. For real this time. Hopefully.

[IceGuy]

I still have to see why Phil is scummy from

play

. From

role

, this can perfectly well live--just don't target it at night.

No. It can't. I'm pretty sure there is at least one role in this game who can redirect night choices. Get targeted, BAM, instant goo.

[kdowns]

kdowns replaces Candy Corn Vampire. For real this time. Hopefully.

Maybe....... JK I am.

[Captain Haddock]

Hi.



Heres my case on BBmolla incase anyone missed it.

Rather than trying to explain his actions he's tried to "confirm" himself with setup-wifom.

Scum recruiting scum would unbalance the game

If it was 1 shot that just means Izak has to put 1 less scum in the game and the same for 2 shot. A scumbag who recruits a random alignment is possible too, that BBmolla "wouldn't" do that is just wifom.

[Phillammon]

Okay. I thought my role was dangerous, not powerful, panda- in that dittoing a townie powerrole would obliterate us fairly effectively. As for what happens to scum, apparently being ditto'd doesn't affect alignment. Just role.

As for Amrun's criticisms, what I had personally meant by "anybody" was that it didn't matter about their alignment- as in, implying NKs were included in the role's limitations. I guess I had a poor choice of words there, but I was careful not to outright lie.

[saulres]

As for Amrun's criticisms, what I had personally meant by "anybody" was that it didn't matter about their alignment- as in,

implying NKs were included

in the role's limitations. I guess I had a poor choice of words there, but I was careful not to outright lie.

...

Anyone

targeting me loses their role and becomes a ditto too.

I don't know what happens if scum target me

,

Confirm Vote Phillamon

[Phillammon]

That's what's called out of context. That was referring to alignment, which I went and checked, as I said. Scum targetting me would stop being scum whatevers and starting being scum green goo. That is what was meant there.

[saulres]

Oh. Yes, I see that now. The perils of searching. Sorry.

Still doesn't make me change my mind that you need to go, though. If your claim is true, the only way to confirm your alignment is to lose the confirming ability, meaning you're a LyLo liability. Plus of course there's the whole "probably a survivor" thing making you even more of a LyLo liability.

[Phillammon]

Why is a survivor a LyLo liability? Surely they aren't treated as a threat to the town? Wouldn't that be basically the same as town?

In any case, I maintain I win with town, but oh well. If we had a day role we didn't need/want, there would be an easy confirm method here, I guess. I'm willing to throw myself open to Shadowgirl, if she wants to risk it too, but failing that, I guess there's little I can do, beyond intentional lightning-rodding through force of personality.

Or something like that. Besides which, the Green Goo role was used in that capacity in another game, as has been pointed out. Even if you don't believe me, You must concede that the role would have been changed, to make it a worst role...

[saulres]

Why is a survivor a LyLo liability?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Survivor "Play Advice"

Even if you don't believe me, You must concede that the role would have been changed, to make it a worst role...

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Survivor "Use and Power"

[Phillammon]

Ook. Good point. I don't really have a response beyond "It's not me", so yeah.

[Moneybags]

Hello, I'm Back Now.
Why Is BBmolla Scum?
I Don't Think He Is.

Amrun Might Be Scum.
Oversoul Might Be But Eh.
Phillammon Prob Scum.

I think BBs Town.
I Don't See Why He'd Be Scum.
So

Vote: Oversoul

[Moneybags]

I Changed As Can See.
Meant To Say "Oversoul Scum"
Not "Might Be But Eh"

[Phillammon]

So, you now have to speak in haiku. This is interesting. Any reason for the change that you know of?

(Not trying to distract, just interested. The PRs here are looking fun)

[Moneybags]

I Change Every Day.
If Only Mcqueen Had Flipped.
T'would Of Been Better.

I Still Might Explode.
I Have No Idea When Though.
I Guess We'll Find Out.

[saulres]

@Mod: Prods please?

numberQ, GimmickyAlt

[izakthegoomba]

You were all just going about your daily business. Arguing, accusing, trying to kill people. Regular stuff. And then Moneybags started acting a bit strange.

"HEY, EVERYONE! LOOK AT ME!", he cried, and started running around the town square, playing a glockenspiel and laughing.

Then he started throwing flowers at everyone he came near to, then stripped naked and dived into the fountain in the middle of the square. Finally, he climbed up to the roof of the town hall, and violently exploded.

Moneybags,

Estel

, exploded in a display of attention-whoring hilarity Day 2

numberQ and Gimmicky Alt have been prodded.

The votecount has been reset.

Votecount 2.03

BBmolla (0) -

none

Oversoul (0) -

none

Captain Haddock (0) -

none

Phillammon (0) -

none

danakillsu (0) -

none

Foxace36 (0) -

none

ManiacalLemon (0) -

none

saulres (0) -

none

Robotnick2 (0) -

none

PokerFace (0) -

none

kdowns (0) -

none

IceGuy (0) -

none

Amrun (0) -

none

ShadowGirl (0) -

none

Gimmicky Alt (0) -

none

numberQ (0) -

none

RedPanda (0) -

none

knox (0) -

none

Agent_Ireland (0) -

none

Tierce (0) -

none

No Lynch (0) -

none

Not voting (20) - Robotnick2, ShadowGirl, knox, Gimmicky Alt, Captain Haddock, numberQ, ManiacalLemon, kdowns, Foxace36, Agent_Ireland, PokerFace, Amrun, saulres, Oversoul, Tierce, Phillammon, BBmolla, danakillsu, IceGuy, RedPanda


V/LA:
ShadowGirl (until 19th)
saulres (19th to 23rd)

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. The deadline is in (expired on 2012-04-29 08:00:00)

[IceGuy]

VOTE: Phillamon

The vote should stick. Like goo.

[Phillammon]

Well, I guess we did find out. I think that I may have killed him by sandwiching... oops. Or possibly the double post did it.

In response to iceguy, I have no defenses left. I've explained everything, but it still seems to be useless. I'm utterly confused as to what the scum might even resemble, let alone who they may be, so I can't get out any reads, really, either. Amrun looks the scummiest, but I suspect I only think that because of her overreaction to my two claims. Not nearly suspicious enough of anyone to vote again.

[danakillsu]

vote: Phillammon

[saulres]

"hilarity"?

With a self-exploding townie, I'm starting to think that BB's logic on balance could be correct. If we start seeing scum being removed by non-normal methods, though, it'll be time to revisit.

Meanwhile, this doesn't change my Phil read.

Vote: Phillammon

[Captain Haddock]

Well, I guess we did find out. I think that I may have killed him by sandwiching... oops. Or possibly the double post did it.

He probably made a mistake with one of his Haikus.

With a self-exploding townie, I'm starting to think that BB's logic on balance could be correct. If we start seeing scum being removed by non-normal methods, though, it'll be time to revisit.

What?


I'm willing to lynch Phillamon as much as BBmolla since post 684 so VOTE: Phillammon

As well as his indivual play I've suspected him of being scum with BBmolla. Phillamon has defended BBmolla and his rolefishing but sheeped "Captain Haddock is rolefishing". And BBmolla called him town.

[saulres]

What?

BB was arguing (setup speculation) that his thinking in bringing in Tierce was that, given the dayvig and the modkill-goddess, for balance purposes it would be more likely that who he brought in would be town, rather than scum.

Moneybags was town and exploded, taking us down another townie. BB's argument (that his role exists to put the balance back) got stronger in my eyes when we were set up with at least two townies who were destined not to make it -- the guilty child, and the exploder.

[Phillammon]

The haikus are all legit, so that's not it. Random post times seems equally possible.

Looks like I'm toast. I'm gonna throw out a counter accusation and VOTE: Amrun, but really, I brought this on myself. Sorry, guys. I reckon Tierce and Molla are probably town, from what I've seen, and I'm prepared to believe saulres is too, to be honest. That's really the extent of my reads, anymore.

[BBmolla]

Haddock I've already addressed that your "case" is awful.

I wanted to quicklynch because:
A. Modconfirmed scum
B. Didn't want my recruit to have to read eleventeen hundred pages to catch up.

I wasn't rolefishing, I was trying to determine if:
A. The masons were worst because one of them is scum.
B. The masons were worst because they have some side ability that makes them worst.

That's kind of fucking important.