NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[mastin2]

For what it's worth, I've started a comprehensive post containing 24 sections (one for each player and "other stuff", like VCA and miscellaneous comments in my QT) which I've been working on trying to complete. (Yes, most of it'll be spoilered. ) Showing original reads, old reads (if different), gut-reads (current-right-at-this-very-moment, if different), and current reads (future-after-I've-done-my-work-reads, if different). I've gone through all the original and some of the old reads content that's in my QT, but haven't covered in-thread reads, yet (though they're mostly the same), yet alone, having started the reread.

Basically, the idea's to show how I got my reads, explain why they morphed, and then give an update based off of all the new content.

I'd prefer nobody speedlynch rack until I finish, since contrary to appearances, I sometimes

do

give valuable insight into a game, insight which can on occasion earn me the fear (and nightkill) of the scum.

[Pine]

Mastin USUALLY only does this mega-wall-on-everyone when he's scum

[drmyshottyizsik]

mod v/la 2 days

[Psyche]

I can't see why rack is getting lynched. : /

But I guess mastin can be counted on to explain it.

[PeregrineV]

Vote Count 1-9

(as of Post 828)

rack (11)

- Benmage, The Mini-Librarian, Firestarter, Kublai Khan, Lady Lambdadelta, drmyshotgun, Maxous, GreyICE, Antihero, Nero Cain, FakeGod

Pine (3)

- scooby, vijay2vasandani, mastin2

Macros(3)

- Pine, rack, DeasVail

Firestarter (2)

- NihilisticNinja, redFF

Benmage (2)

- HezLucky, Macros

Nero Cain (1)

- drmyshottyizsik

Maxous (1)

- Psyche

redFF (1)

- Junpei

Not Voting (0)

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With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch

Deadline:

Thursday, May 3, 2012 3pm CST

Replacing:

NihilisticNinja

Prods:

Firestarter

V/LAs:

Lady LambdadeltaApril 25
drmyshottyizsikApril 24

[Antihero]

I can't see why rack is getting lynched. : /

But I guess mastin can be counted on to explain it.

Why did I have you as a town read?

Now, I can understand maybe you not agreeing with the wagon but completely not seeing it? You're either not paying attention or you're taking white-knighting to another level. Plus, you're putting the burden of explaining it on someone who's not even on the wagon. PLUS, you're voting Maxous. Talk about a lousy lynch.

[HezLucky]

Mastin USUALLY only does this mega-wall-on-everyone when he's scum

I'm in agreement.

[HezLucky]

I'd prefer nobody speedlynch rack until I finish, since contrary to appearances, I sometimes

do

give valuable insight into a game, insight which can on occasion earn me the fear (and nightkill) of the scum.

To me this screams "look at me guys look how hard I am trying I am def town rite?"

ugh

[Maxous]

I love how my scumreads are getting called town for no good reason. It's pretty awesome.

Is my Junpei comment being referred to in here?

He attacked red on a snap decision based on what he seen with a weak scumtell and not much of a case. That's a lot more town than scum. (scum are usually more like 'oh i'll wait until I fully catch-up and post a comprehensive reads list'. It's a lot safer that way)

Its not like scum bunch up and do A but not B or B but not A. No scumtell is 100%.

right...but if i have understood correctly you said joining the wagon on somebody that is'nt your top suspect is scummy. (in that situation)
And then you were questioning somebody on why he was voting thier top suspect and not joining the wagon of a lesser suspect. (in a similar situation)

I don't get why you would think both of these behaviours are suspicious.

Someone please explain to me how drmyshotgun's claim gave him instant towncred.

Okay.
Universal town back-up.
Done.

It seems like people can get away with coasting on the Rack wagon because saying "herpderp he not posting, he sucks" is enough scumhunting.

Can you elaborate on who you specifically think is coasting?
(I think you're saying LLD is one but not sure)

Also we should'nt drag this lynch much longer despite 2 weeks until deadline, I would be willing to talk theory as to why.

I will have to re-read that psyce-KK debate later because *whoosh*
I agree psyche's #828 is weird. The rack case is simple enough and has been repeated a lot...even in the parts of the game where psyche was caught up.

(got some acces )

[drmyshotgun]

I'd prefer nobody speedlynch rack until I finish, since contrary to appearances, I sometimes

do

give valuable insight into a game, insight which can on occasion earn me the fear (and nightkill) of the scum.

To me this screams "look at me guys look how hard I am trying I am def town rite?"

ugh

And yet Benmage has your vote.

[Psyche]

Oh, my vote's still where it was.

unvote

[scooby]

Im fine with rack getting lynched today, specially for the loaded questions in his iso

l-1, so claim, etc

[scooby]

i dont have a read on any other player

really hoping there are like 20 nightkills on this night so shit can go to shit

[Junpei]

Yeah don't lynch yet please.

Mastin if you post that mega-wall, that will be so incredibly anti-town that I will have to assume that you are scum trying to muddle the thread. If you are a mafia player who has even a minuscule of talent, you can post more succinctly; I think you aren't scumhunting.

[Kublai Khan]

For what it's worth, I've started a comprehensive post containing 24 sections (one for each player and "other stuff", like VCA and miscellaneous comments in my QT) which I've been working on trying to complete. (Yes, most of it'll be spoilered. ) Showing original reads, old reads (if different), gut-reads (current-right-at-this-very-moment, if different), and current reads (future-after-I've-done-my-work-reads, if different). I've gone through all the original and some of the old reads content that's in my QT, but haven't covered in-thread reads, yet (though they're mostly the same), yet alone, having started the reread.

Basically, the idea's to show how I got my reads, explain why they morphed, and then give an update based off of all the new content.

I'd prefer nobody speedlynch rack until I finish, since contrary to appearances, I sometimes

do

give valuable insight into a game, insight which can on occasion earn me the fear (and nightkill) of the scum.

I'm confused by the number of people saying "No, mastin! It's super-scummy when you do that!"

[Pine]

It isn't super-scummy. He just doesn't usually do it when he's Town. When he's Town, he usually has a handful of strong reads that he pushes until either he or they are dead, and he tends to write off a few others as Town as early as RVS. This mega wall on everyone generally means he's bullshitting his reads, but still wants to look like the "I'm working super hard" Mastin that we're familiar with.

[scooby]

It isn't super-scummy. He just doesn't usually do it when he's Town. When he's Town, he usually has a handful of strong reads that he pushes until either he or they are dead, and he tends to write off a few others as Town as early as RVS. This mega wall on everyone generally means he's bullshitting his reads, but still wants to look like the "I'm working super hard" Mastin that we're familiar with.

Posts or it didn't happen

[redFF]

No one hammer till we get a claim and mastin makes his huge post.

[Kublai Khan]

No one hammer till we get a claim and mastin makes his huge post.

Bored. C'mon mastin2 & rack.

[Pine]

It isn't super-scummy. He just doesn't usually do it when he's Town. When he's Town, he usually has a handful of strong reads that he pushes until either he or they are dead, and he tends to write off a few others as Town as early as RVS. This mega wall on everyone generally means he's bullshitting his reads, but still wants to look like the "I'm working super hard" Mastin that we're familiar with.

Posts or it didn't happen

Seriously? This is an opinion formed over the course of probably 15-20 games played with Mastin. There is absolutely no way I'm going to spend the next day and a half proving what others will have no issue corroborating.

[The Mini-Librarian]

No one hammer till we get a claim and mastin makes his huge post.

Bored. C'mon mastin2 & rack.

And KK wins the best post award.

/waiting for rack

[drmyshotgun]

i dont have a read on any other player

really hoping there are like 20 nightkills on this night so shit can go to shit

Umm...This sounds wrong.

[Nero Cain]

possibly. This is a 24 players game and 8 scum would still be a 16 player town setup and a 16/8 setup seems plausible to me.

Current site meta suggests two teams of 4

and you "I doubt we have 8 scum." , "oh but its a possibility.", posts seem sorta like slips to me.

No I said there isn't gonna be a single scum team of 8. FIND ME ONE precedent of a 24 game that had a scum team of 8. FIND ME ONE.

please go and sit in the corner until you learn to read or flip scum.

LLD will be VLA for a few days

Why are you declaring v/la for another player?

Agee's with Pine's assessment of Mastin's wall posts.

Psyche is still scum.

Its not like scum bunch up and do A but not B or B but not A. No scumtell is 100%.

right...but if i have understood correctly you said joining the wagon on somebody that is'nt your top suspect is scummy. (in that situation)
And then you were questioning somebody on why he was voting thier top suspect and not joining the wagon of a lesser suspect. (in a similar situation)
I don't get why you would think both of these behaviours are suspicious.

b/c, like I said above, they do both. lol

I <shivers> agree with Gunny. By 34 pages in Scooby should have reads/opinions.

[Pine]

34 pages? He really should

[GreyICE]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

This ISO is truly awful -_-

Anyone wanna turn this wagon around?