NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[mastin2]

If the game is multiscum, by the way, Pine and Khan look like they're probably not scum together.

[Antihero]

Not the same list and if you read my posts you see why they change. And I'm not dying tomorrow, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

[GreyICE]

I'll take my best shot at things.

1. Psyche <--Minor suspect, but gut right now says town.

2. Kublai Khan <--Major, MAJOR suspect; his reaction reeks of knowing rack was town.

3. scooby <--Probably town; look at his refusal to get on rack and pushing of Pine.
4. FakeGod jasonT1981 <--Probably town, by virtue of there being no way the rack wagon is THAT scumdriven.
5. Firestarter <--Probably town, by the same logic above.
6. The Mini-Librarian <--Same thing.

7. rack <--Confirmed town.

8. DeasVail <--Major suspect, especially with regards to consistently looking like he was on the edge of voting rack, but never following through.

9. Macros <--Not scum with the people attacking him, which if memory serves include Pine and Antihero. Oh, and DV as well. Still could be scum in a KK-Junpei scumteam, though.
10. Code_X NihilisticNinja <--Minor suspect due to Ninja's play.
11. Benmage <--Probably town via the rack wagon not being THAT scumdriven.

12. Pine <--Scum. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get enough on why before we go into night, but I'll try.

13. drmyshottyizsik <--Minor suspect. He's in the suspect pool with vijay and scooby, but I still need to check who was willing to wagon him.
14. HezLucky <--Probably town; just overall gut feeling.
15. drmyshotgun <--Town via claim, and via being on the rack wagon.
16. Nero Cain <--Town via interactions, and being on the rack wagon.

17. redFF <--Confirmed town.

18. Antihero Candy Corn Vampire <--Scum, especially if this game's single-faction. Words kinda escaping me, but I'll do what I can.
20. Lady Lambdadelta <--Town via the rack wagon.
21. Junpei <--Scum. See also, his push against me while voting rack and putting rack within lynch range, despite my request against doing so and his interest in me providing more content. (That last one's the biggy.)
22. Maxous <--Probably town due to the rack wagon, though he's of minor interest still.
23. vijay2vasandani <--Minor suspect, in the pool with scooby and shotty. Gut seems to recall liking something he's been saying recently, so maybe town.
24. GreyICE Praetyre <--Town due to the rack wagon.

Of course this is far from a complete list of reasons, but it gives a good start.

Okay, so far we have the following based on Mastin large game logic. RedFF and Rack are scum, Kublai Khan, Deas Veil, and Pine are definitely town.

This meta tell, it is AWESOME.

[rack]

mage already told us there were two teams of 4.

I had forgotten about this. HOWEVER -- please show the class where he said two teams of four. I just found where he said 8 antitown roles. (I'd look closer, but I'm trying to get as much info in as possible before lockdown.

Here we have Nero potentially putting words in Ben's mouth.

Unrelated, please also consider the animosity between benmage and LLD in the signup thread that seems to miraculously dissipated now. Perhaps they're on the same team?

[mastin2]

Same applies to Antihero; see KK's early read on CCV. In multiscum, it's a bad idea to start attacking a buddy immediately--even worse to then back off of 'em.

Single-scumteam, however, would still leave open KK-Antihero. Not sure on KK-Pine whether it'd be possible for both to be scum on a single large scumteam.

[GreyICE]

mage already told us there were two teams of 4.

I had forgotten about this. HOWEVER -- please show the class where he said two teams of four. I just found where he said 8 antitown roles. (I'd look closer, but I'm trying to get as much info in as possible before lockdown.

Here we have Nero potentially putting words in Ben's mouth.

Unrelated, please also consider the animosity between benmage and LLD in the signup thread that seems to miraculously dissipated now. Perhaps they're on the same team?

Yes, that's obviously it.

Please die.

[rack]

@Rack, Head A, yeah?

Yes. Unless Head B outs themselves before today's lock (which I doubt), I guess you'll never know. They seem to have also siteflaked at this point.

Again, my apologies for messing up, but there is a ton of info on my wagon. Off of it, too.

[rack]

Grey, you know I love you man, but seriously, I'm a dead man walking, just trying to get what info I can into the town's hands before nightfall.

[DeasVail]

Er, I see no point in pulling this any longer.

It's not twilight, and rack gets scumpoints for not realising it.

Rack:

Please vote for me now.

[mastin2]

Antihero-shotty is definitely fully possible. Oh, and thinking shotty's scum, mind you.

And Junpei-Khan actually looks possible as well.

Might be scumteams of Khan-Junpei-DesaVail and Antihero-Pine-Shotty, but not sure. Doesn't feel quite right.

Kinda sorta like one of Antihero and Pine are scum, but not the other if multiscum. In this case, Antihero's less likely scum.

If single-scum, they can still be scum together, though. Not entirely positive on Pine in this case, though, due to Khan.

[rack]

wtf?

unvote

Vote: DeasFail

[drmyshotgun]

Its not??? Its still day???

[mastin2]

Er, I see no point in pulling this any longer.

It's not twilight, and rack gets scumpoints for not realising it.

Rack: Please vote for me now.

No, we lynched. I checked the votes; the math works out. It's 13 to lynch, we have 13 votes.

[Antihero]

Er, I see no point in pulling this any longer.

I know it. I finally euthanize this flea-ridden, worm-infested dying dog that is Day 1 of this game and everyone starts acting like assholes.

[Benmage]

Just skimmin the last few pages. Was there a hammer?

[Nero Cain]

mage already told us there were two teams of 4.

I had forgotten about this. HOWEVER -- please show the class where he said two teams of four. I just found where he said 8 antitown roles. (I'd look closer, but I'm trying to get as much info in as possible before lockdown.

Here we have Nero potentially putting words in Ben's mouth.

Unrelated, please also consider the animosity between benmage and LLD in the signup thread that seems to miraculously dissipated now. Perhaps they're on the same team?

he didn't say it. Him thinkin' there were 8 anti-town roles, me suggesting that site meta suggests that would be two teams of 4 then Ben being all herp-a-derp and saying that I suggested there was 1 team of 8 sounds like pissed scum.

also lol @ defending Ben-speculating on a Ben-LLD team.

[rack]

Rack:

If you vote for me, I'll believe that you're NS.

A) I feel no need to prove I'm NS; if it's that big a deal to you, rack is a registered alt of NS, check with the admins.

B) I just did an impromptu VC, from Peregrine's last, and I have been lynched.

c) wtf are you trying to do here?

[DeasVail]

I missed Junpei's vote.

/Fail

[mastin2]

I'm striking Ninja off the scumlist due to page 5.

Down to nine, technically, but I think that Pine, Khan, Antihero, DeasVail, Shotty, and Junpei contains most of our scumteam(s).

Still, though, while I feel REALLY strongly that ONE of Pine and Antihero/CCV is scum, I'm FAR from confident both would be. That said, Khan scumread's still strong, Junpei read is strong, and shotty read is decently strong (also, POE). The weakest read is DV.

[redFF]

When rack flips town I'd like all you idiots to listen to me, listening to Mastin is also fine.

Thanks.

inb4 Antihero- Don't worry I don't expect scum to listen to me anyway.

[DeasVail]

The weakest read is DV.

Because I'm town obv

[Antihero]

lol, red is calling other people idiots

that's funny

[Benmage]

mage already told us there were two teams of 4.

I had forgotten about this. HOWEVER -- please show the class where he said two teams of four. I just found where he said 8 antitown roles. (I'd look closer, but I'm trying to get as much info in as possible before lockdown.

Here we have Nero potentially putting words in Ben's mouth.

Unrelated, please also consider the animosity between benmage and LLD in the signup thread that seems to miraculously dissipated now. Perhaps they're on the same team?

he didn't say it. Him thinkin' there were 8 anti-town roles, me suggesting that site meta suggests that would be two teams of 4 then Ben being all herp-a-derp and saying that I suggested there was 1 team of 8 sounds like pissed scum.

also lol @ defending Ben-speculating on a Ben-LLD team.

How did that sound like pissed scum..... at all?

Didn't you suggest calling me out for inside knowledge knowing there was 8 scum? or nontown roles??, and I called you ludicrous.

[Nero Cain]

Nero-Ste meta suggests there are two teams of 4

Ben-WTF NERO!!! When has a game ever had 1 8 man scum team?

your response to my two 4 person scum teams was terrible and makes no sense. I never suggested a single 8 man scum team. Either you misread or you are scum misrepping.

[redFF]

lol, red is calling other people idiots

that's funny

have we ever played together?

I don't get the hate. In the end, we're here to play a game, call me scum all you want, but leave the personal insults in gd.