Mini 1313: Blood Bowl Mafia (Game over)

[GreyICE]

Yes Slandaar, we thought you were town all along.

I've won despite utter nonsense setups, but when the setup defeats the opponent, it needs to be stated.

[Slandaar]

Exactly!

Its really hilarious to read even though you might not think so right now, the last couple days are just brilliant.

Was the setup unfair? Im not sure, honestly we were lucky with our nks, our vigs were very conditional.

[inte]

Yes Slandaar, we thought you were town all along.

I've won despite utter nonsense setups, but when the setup defeats the opponent, it needs to be stated.

"we" Lol, i knew he was scum too. I just had no solid evidence besides meta

y'all need to listen to me more

[Majiffy]

Grey really likes his caps lock button.

[Dazzy]

No that's totes cool.

Glork finds and lynches two scums and wants to vig the other, but his vig for the win disappears because Dazzy is a fucking derp, and a fucking mini where scum accidentally get two nightkills every night even though they're herping it up completely.


Goddammit I hate mafia right now.

Definitely not one of my better games.

I've never had a non-standard role before, and the bus-driver was an interesting one. Glork, I didn't save BB.

It's dumb because by the end I saw the one kill on N4 and was like "Maybe there are 3 town left...". But numberwise and kill wise it just didn't add up for me. Sorry for the shitty endgame play.

Well played guys.

[Yates]

I WAS A TROLL

This is where the game broke. It looked like we had two killers. We had two trolls. The math was easy. Why in the fuck would there be a

good

troll?

[GreyICE]

I WAS A TROLL

This is where the game broke. It looked like we had two killers. We had two trolls. The math was easy. Why in the fuck would there be a

good

troll?

Why would scum claim to save the serial killer?
Why would the serial killer claim to save scum?

I WAS OBVIOUSLY TOWN!

Like... it's insane. You never answered this once during the course of the game.

Not that it makes any difference for the last day, because we had no sane way of knowing there wasn't a fucking SK, but my god Yates.

[GreyICE]

No that's totes cool.

Glork finds and lynches two scums and wants to vig the other, but his vig for the win disappears because Dazzy is a fucking derp, and a fucking mini where scum accidentally get two nightkills every night even though they're herping it up completely.


Goddammit I hate mafia right now.

Definitely not one of my better games.

I've never had a non-standard role before, and the bus-driver was an interesting one. Glork, I didn't save BB.

It's dumb because by the end I saw the one kill on N4 and was like "Maybe there are 3 town left...". But numberwise and kill wise it just didn't add up for me. Sorry for the shitty endgame play.

Well played guys.

You really did fine with it, when all is said and done.

We just got outplayed by the moderator. It's really hard to beat modscum.

[Yates]

idk why yall just didnt lynch bbmolla and gamble it the last night with dazzy yaetes and grey
i told you he was obvscum

Look at it from my perspective: I

knew

there was an SK and a Scum [two NK's] and two Trolls left. It didn't matter which one we lynched, the other one would have gotten the victory. I actually tried to give the win to Grey early on but he thought *I* was the other scum. That was our only chance at a win, as it turns out.

I do not regret a single thing I did after replacing in with the information I had at my disposal. I would have played everything out exactly the same. It was simply a broken game.

[Yates]

I WAS OBVIOUSLY TOWN!

Dude, you were a Troll. THIS is what broke the game. You sounded to me like caught scum trying to flail their way to victory by getting me to lynch the sk over you.

Think about it this way, once you claimed Troll you may as well have said "I'm mafia but I win with Town." Nothing after that mattered to me. You were self-confirmed scum. Oh well.

[GreyICE]

I WAS OBVIOUSLY TOWN!

Dude, you were a Troll. THIS is what broke the game. You sounded to me like caught scum trying to flail their way to victory by getting me to lynch the sk over you.

Think about it this way, once you claimed Troll you may as well have said "I'm mafia but I win with Town." Nothing after that mattered to me. You were self-confirmed scum. Oh well.

Buttttt whhyyyyyyyy

Why would scum ever claim something incriminating? It makes noooooo seennnseee. And how was I scum with BBMolla? We'd have endgamed you guys ages ago.

GOD

IT MAKES NO SENSE

WHY DOES AN SK TRY TO SAVE SCUM FROM BEING LYNCHED?

BRAAAINNNNSSSS

[Yates]

I actually thought you were scum and BB was SK. Then flip-flopped when you didn't vote BB.

Riddle me this; why didn't you vote BB when you had the chance?

Hindsight is 20/20. You can't sit there and armchair quarterback when you were part of the problem. You were working under the assumption there was an SK and scum left, right? I was in the same situation only I had one extra damning piece of information - your "scum" claim. Again, put yourself in my shoes. Here's what I see:

1. There is an SK
2. There is scum
3. There are four people left
4. There are two Trolls in a game with a race-cop
5. Trolls flip scum

It's easy math. We both know caught scum will say anything. Once you decided not to kill BB, I had to assume that you were SK going for the solo win.

[inte]

I WAS A TROLL

This is where the game broke. It looked like we had two killers. We had two trolls. The math was easy. Why in the fuck would there be a

good

troll?

Why would scum claim to save the serial killer?
Why would the serial killer claim to save scum?

I WAS OBVIOUSLY TOWN!

Like... it's insane. You never answered this once during the course of the game.

Not that it makes any difference for the last day, because we had no sane way of knowing there wasn't a fucking SK, but my god Yates.

yea yall messed up, even if you (grey) weren't town, lynching bbmolla was the way to go cause then you could basically 33% gamble the victory instead of 0%

i really dunno why u guys thought no lynch was anywhere near a good idea

from grey's perspective:
he knows hes town
he knows dazzy is town
he knows PV was a troll
he knows all the rest of the townies have been gobbo
he knows that there is a race cop that has a guilty on bbmolla
he knows that i have said that i know that bbmolla was scum, based on his play during the game
he knows i am town

from yates perspective:
he knows the same things, but doesn't know weather the real scum is grey or bbmolla
he also knows grey claimed to be a troll after the fact that bbmolla was outed to be a troll, which doesn't make sense at all from scum perspective

[Glork]

Grey, it does make sense for you to come out as a troll of you're the other groupscum and BB were a bulletproof SK. Because you could be night killed and he could not. That's why most of the town wound up suspecting you.

[Majiffy]

Except if he were scum or SK he could have just as easily just said he was Gobbo... It makes no sense for him to out himself as Troll if he were not town-aligned.

[Yates]

Unless he was SK trying to keep one scum alive to help carry him to endgame.

[GreyICE]

Grey, it does make sense for you to come out as a troll of you're the other groupscum and BB were a bulletproof SK. Because you could be night killed and he could not. That's why most of the town wound up suspecting you.

So I'd come out to save a bulletproof SK from lynch - the same bulletproof SK I would NEED to lynch to end the game.

What is this I don't even

[Yates]

Think about it. Grey's best chance of victory, if he were actually SK, is to have the scum [bb] kill a Townie while he kills the other Townie. If he's BP, he just won the game.

[PeregrineV]

Glork brought up the idea of an SK originally, making me think maybe it was him. Then, later, as our kill targets weren't dying and a doc wasn't evident, and before Dazzy confession, and people we didn't target died, the SK became a possibility to me. Slandaar was gobbo, and BB and I trolls, so when Grey claimed troll I thought him the SK.

And if Grey hadn't claimed troll, I was going to claim goblin.

[Yates]

And if Grey hadn't claimed troll, I was going to claim goblin.

In which case we would have lynched BB. Oh well.

[GreyICE]

Think about it. Grey's best chance of victory, if he were actually SK, is to have the scum [bb] kill a Townie while he kills the other Townie. If he's BP, he just won the game.

But why do I care if scum is lynched if I'm SK?

If I'm BP, then whatever, there was two scum left alive, they would always get another kill, so I don't need em. You lynch two scum in a row, we'd still be in LyLo, and I can win LyLo.

If I'm scum, then we need to lynch the SK to win, I'd never interrupt that.

THE ONLY EXPLANATION THAT MAKES SENSE IS I'M TOWN

EVERYTHING ELSE INVOLVES STUPID LOGIC

[Yates]

If you are the SK, you need ONE of the scum to die.

[Slandaar]

But you were a troll?! trolls are scum!

[Majiffy]

Apparently not.

[GreyICE]

If you are the SK, you need ONE of the scum to die.

So? Why stick my neck out to prevent scum from being lynched? It's fucking retarded.

You honestly should have realized I was obvtown.