Open 381 - Day 4

kondi2424 · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:59 am

Hmm.

So far, this is what I have established:

1. Brizingre, Kassadin, and Elmo are town based on play.
2. Antihero and FuDuzn are the same alignment based on hoko slipping.

So, either one of my townreads is wrong, or the scumteam is Antihero/FuDuzn. Time to establish a read on them.

Pizzadudes7 · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:00 am

And I fall..........where?

kondi2424 · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:00 am

You're scum if it's not Anti/FuDuzn.

FuDuzn · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:11 am

Wait, I am scum now? And how possibly would it be me and Anti?

Also, waiting for Riggs to say if he was(presumably) jailed. If he wasn't, why wouldn't he shoot?

brizingre1 · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:16 am

↑ FuDuzn wrote:Wait, I am scum now? And how possibly would it be me and Anti?

Also, waiting for Riggs to say if he was(presumably) jailed. If he wasn't, why wouldn't he shoot?

Kami's flip pretty much proves Riggs as town.

FuDuzn · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:18 am

↑ brizingre1 wrote:
↑ FuDuzn wrote:Wait, I am scum now? And how possibly would it be me and Anti?

Also, waiting for Riggs to say if he was(presumably) jailed. If he wasn't, why wouldn't he shoot?

Kami's flip pretty much proves Riggs as town.

I am not implying that he isn't town, just want to hear if he was in fact jailed......and if not, why the *bleep* not shoot.

kondi2424 · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:24 am

@FuDuzn: I've been saying you and Antihero were the same alignment for forever now.

Guy_Named_Riggs · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:29 am

Vote:Pizzadude

Only logical vote for me right now. I submitted a kill on Pizza since it was suggested I do so and I didn't have a strong enough read on anyone else so I went with him. Since it was suggested in game, I assume that scum wouldn't want to die, and since they have the back-up jailkeeper (my bad) they jailed me saving themselves.

kondi2424 · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:38 am

Also a thought: It was already obvious that Pizza was going to be the Vig target, so why would the scum jail GNR if he was just going to be shooting town?

VOTE: Pizza

I might build a case if I have time and will, but that's good enough for me.

Guy_Named_Riggs · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:44 am

↑ kondi2424 wrote:Also a thought: It was already obvious that Pizza was going to be the Vig target, so why would the scum jail GNR if he was just going to be shooting town?

My thoughts exactly, maybe I just didn't put them in the post

kondi2424 · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:50 am

Actually, the only teams I could see that are smart enough to realize this involve FuDuzn or Anti... or MAYBE briz. Hmm.

UNVOTE:

Antihero · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:51 am

↑ kondi2424 wrote:Actually, the only teams I could see that are smart enough to realize this involve FuDuzn or Anti... or MAYBE briz. Hmm.

UNVOTE:

Awwwwwww, you're so sweet

kondi2424 · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:54 am

^_^

So what are you thinking about this situation?

FuDuzn · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:59 am

↑ kondi2424 wrote:Actually, the only teams I could see that are smart enough to realize this involve FuDuzn or Anti... or MAYBE briz. Hmm.

UNVOTE:

Ha, you give me too much credit.

It does make sense though, this is one of those times when it is not good to tell the PR's what to do, because you are also telling scum what do as well. And as was just said, why prevent Pizza from dying if he was town?
VOTE: Pizza

Antihero · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:55 am

Alright, I started off rough, but I can redeem myself and finish this right.

Antihero · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:03 pm

Alright, I started off rough, but I can redeem myself and finish this right.

WE CAN DO THIS!

People who I'm absolutely unwilling to entertain the idea of being scum at the moment:

FuDuzn
Guy_Named_Riggs

Unlikely to be scum (my opinion):

Elmo TeH AzN
brizingre1
kondi2424 (upgraded to top list if Kassadin is town)

Everyone else:

Pizzadudes7
Kassadin

I would actually bet that the scumteam is made of up one from the bottom list and one from the middle list.

kondi2424 · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:17 pm

Kassadin, can you direct me to a scum game of yours in which you were lynched?

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:05 pm

So we have 1 lynch till were at Lylo. Given the fact our vig doesn't shoot.

Also Im just going to put this out there since I was in a game with a vig & RB before. Why would scum allow GNR to shoot no matter if he claimed his target. How trust worthy do you think they are and he wouldn't go on his own agenda and shoot someone else.
Either way Imma like this vote
VOTE: Fuduzn

FuDuzn · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:26 pm

So you are saying it was in fact Riggs who was roleblocked? OK that may be, but how does that lead you to a vote on me?

Also what would that matter? If he said he was going to shoot Pizza, knowing Pizza was scum, they would jail Pizza. And if they play it extra safe they would jail Riggs so both of the scum are safe. Either way scum knew they had to protect Pizza.

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:29 pm

↑ FuDuzn wrote:So you are saying it was in fact Riggs who was roleblocked? OK that may be, but how does that lead you to a vote on me?

Also what would that matter?
If he said he was going to shoot Pizza, knowing Pizza was scum, they would jail Pizza.
And if they play it extra safe they would jail Riggs so both of the scum are safe. Either way scum knew they had to protect Pizza.

This is not true.
So Ill compromise if you want to lynch Pizza then

FuDuzn · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:45 pm

↑ Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
↑ FuDuzn wrote:So you are saying it was in fact Riggs who was roleblocked? OK that may be, but how does that lead you to a vote on me?

Also what would that matter?
If he said he was going to shoot Pizza, knowing Pizza was scum, they would jail Pizza.
And if they play it extra safe they would jail Riggs so both of the scum are safe. Either way scum knew they had to protect Pizza.

This is not true.
So Ill compromise if you want to lynch Pizza then

It 'may' not be true, but taking the chance that he shoots someone other then the other scum also 'may' not be a terrible strategy and worth the chance.

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:49 pm

We can argue about this all we want. Something similar happened in Open 373 lost in the crash.

Tajun · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:13 pm

Vote count 3.01

Pizzadudes7 - 2 (Guy_Named_Riggs, FuDuzn) L-3
FuDuzn - 1 (Elmo TeH AzN) L-4

Not Voting - 5 (Pizzadudes7, kondi2424, brizingre1, Kassadin, Antihero)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, May 9th, 11:00am EST.

kondi2424 · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:24 pm

@Elmo: GNR pretty much had every reason to shoot Pizza, and it was obvious. What reason would he have not to?

I also want to know why you think FuDuzn is scum and if you think Antihero could be scum with him.

@FuDuzn #543: Could you explain this logic more?

FuDuzn · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:35 pm

↑ kondi2424 wrote:@FuDuzn #543: Could you explain this logic more?

I just feel that the ultimate goal was to protect Pizza, whether it was jail Pizza or Riggs this was the goal. And I feel that whoever the scum mate is, they were confident that if Riggs didn't shoot Pizza they wouldn't shoot the scum mate. I think it was a calculated risk that was worth it for them.