NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[drmyshotgun]

But there was only two masons... So, fuck. I wanted to be a vigilante.

[Psyche]

...

Agh. Well. Hm. I guess...But. Ugh.

Mmmmmm...

Okay. I'll suck it up and continue playing if that's okay. I've taken on this "challenge accepted" philosophy that compels me to accept things like this.

I'll drop the pretense of reading the whole thread before posting, because that never seems to work as a plan. I'll skim and develop from there in a less linear fashion, staying active the whole time.

Glad I was right about rack in my ultimate reading. But it's unfair to say so, I guess.

[redFF]

im guessing ah was a vig?

[mastin2]

Dual masons kinda supports my two-scumteam idea. Especially since both kills
-Were on town,
-Were meant to look kinda town in nature,
And
-No kill went through on a stronger town player.

Drmy, do you have access to the QT Antihero and vijay had?
If so, can you try paraphrasing their conversation, since with both dead, it'd be kinda hard for either of them to do so for us?

Anyway...

VOTE: Kublai Khan.

[Nero Cain]

im guessing ah was a vig?

he was a mason

[Nero Cain]

vote Nero Cain

Put everything on hold: He scumslipped.

What is this "scumslip" and why are you not pointing it out to get others to vote me?

Drmy, do you have access to the QT Antihero and vijay had?
If so, can you try paraphrasing their conversation, since with both dead, it'd be kinda hard for either of them to do so for us?

Whats the point?

[mastin2]

To confirm shotty's a universal backup, and to get an insight into the mind of two dead players who are both confirmed town--if they used their QT productively, they might have found something which shotty can give us insight into.

[Junpei]

If so, can you try paraphrasing their conversation, since with both dead, it'd be kinda hard for either of them to do so for us?

Don't do this unless someone has a good reason to do so. Mastin why aren't you voting Nero Cain?

Nero, the scumslip has already been pointed out: You made that post which analyzes a lynch on town (which takes into account the night kill!) and has a vote in it before day even broke.

[Junpei]

To confirm shotty's a universal backup

Oh, that's fine.

Drmyshotgun confirm what you can post with Peregrine and give us as much as is okay.

[Nero Cain]

So...I had a scum read on LLD. When day broke I voted my scum read. I fail to see how that's a scumslip but w/e.

[Junpei]

So...I had a scum read on LLD. When day broke I voted my scum read. I fail to see how that's a scumslip but w/e.

Strawman.

[Nero Cain]

So...I had a scum read on LLD. When day broke I voted my scum read. I fail to see how that's a scumslip but w/e.

Strawman.

Don't know if scum or really really horrible

[mastin2]

Scum, Nero. Scum.

[Psyche]

: /

Just from reading D2, I'm inclined to agree with the nero wagon. So I'll start there.
...
After reading his iso, though, I'm unconvinced. Whatever about him that seemed scummy before now seems to be a result of his abrasive posting style.

[Nero Cain]

Scum, Nero. Scum.

I'm not convinced yet. His play and reads are usually crap. The thing that gives me the scummiest vibe is that he's not playing how he usally plays.

[Maxous]

-Were meant to look kinda town in nature,

What?

Nero's post was'nt a 'scumslip', though I really don't get the 3 people pulling a distraction to the game thing...(to what end exactly? Why?)

Unfortunately I can't re-check rolling in the deep - as it is lost in the crash - but if I remember correctly, Pine is quite likely scum for this post

There was a player in that game, sky who lurked like hell and then claimed VT when wagoned to L-1.
Pine made the arguement(again, iirc) that it was unlikely that a player would be so lurky and useless and then claim vt so he is likely town (or something to that affect). Turned out he was correct.
Yeah, he was a sk in that game but he was still genuinely hunting scum.

The same arguement is pointed out to him this game and he dismisses it with 'oh wifom, let's lynch scooby next'

Why

scooby is scum for that post was'nt pointed out either

Plus that fakeclaim accusation was silly, a fakeclaim of what exactly?
Why would scum claim vt and then say 'oh I want to check with the mod about my role'
Why would someone think a scum player would do that?
He did'nt think that through at all ...which is also scummy, particulary since he was basically calling for a hammer on rack.

vote:Pine

[mastin2]

Maxous, you know your stuff.

[HezLucky]

Nero: why have you slashed out the names you have slashed out?
SEVERAL OF THOSE PLAYERS COULD BE MAF.

Also, you're asking me to replace out, and then voting me.

It looks to me like you're making up facts to push a lynch you don't even believe in. Whether this is because you're scum or because you want me out of the game I've yet to determine.

Yo guys.

LLD is town.

And I buy this.

Vote: RedFF

FOS: Nero

Scumslip? Quite possible.

[HezLucky]

What do others think of RedFF's half-assed attempt to push a lynch on LLD?

[redFF]

I dont believe I ever attempted to push lld...

[Nero Cain]

Nero: why have you slashed out the names you have slashed out?
SEVERAL OF THOSE PLAYERS COULD BE MAF.

sure the could but not everyone in this game is scum. Its important to be flexible. There are way to many ego's in the game and alot of people have to compromise but being too flexible is a good indication of scum so where's your line in the sand? Do you have one or are you pretty much open to lynching anyone?

[Nero Cain]

Nero: why have you slashed out the names you have slashed out?
SEVERAL OF THOSE PLAYERS COULD BE MAF.

sure the could but not everyone in this game is scum. Its important to be flexible. There are way to many ego's in the game and alot of people have to compromise but being too flexible is a good indication of scum so where's your line in the sand? Do you have one or are you pretty much open to lynching anyone?

[HezLucky]

Why have you posted twice?

My reads were given yesterday. It should be obvious that I push on my scumreads and largely leave others alone, at least this early in the game.

[The Mini-Librarian]

Nero Cain. I don't think that creating a vote post overnight is a scumslip, but goddamn that post is terrible for other reasons. What exactly is your case on LLD again?

based off that post it's:

a) she lurked (she was v/la for awhile. not very fair to call her out on that.)

b) she took offense to a post just for gain in this game. (which is ridiculous and frankly offensive to LLD and the others)

c) she was on the rack wagon. (fair enough. but why her above everyone else on the wagon?)

I'm not completely sold on your lynch (I'm debating about Pine right now) but this is a fine way to start my day.

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I do agree with Mastin about there probably two scumteams barring shenanigans.

[DeasVail]

Nero:

Why did you comment on GI's replace out now? Why did you feel the need to mention me as possible scum?

Also, I completely disagree that there was any kind of scumslip.

VOTE: Pine