Mini 1327: Murder in the Louvre- Day 6

[Furcolow]

Me, charter, Furcolow,

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os, Elmo, and Vi should form a team and vote for people all together.
I don't trust Vi as much as the other three but if we all vote together... great things'll happen.

fixed

[Furcolow]

wait ELMO? no way.

[UberNinja]

*other three should obviously say other

four

preview edit: why yos?

other preview edit: not shos and elmo? if they vote with the rest of us, I don't give a flying fuck who joins our voting bloc or w/e.

[Furcolow]

I have been liking shos more, recently, than I did in the earlier phases.
I haven't liked Elmo all game, but I was wrong about Pizza, so what do I know

[UberNinja]

Wait that means we shouldn't exclude Yos either. Hmmm

Ok, our terms of agreement should include "you vote with us even if we decide to lynch someone you don't want to, or else you get voted for by us" -- that sounds fair. And scum will be forced to vote the way the town in the bloc want them to, or else they'll be lynched themselves. So scum will effectively be voting for who town tells them to vote for.

Are you in or out furc? I'll obviously never choose to vote for you. And probably not charter.
Letting there be a hive mind instead of all this independent bickering will significantly lessen the chance that scum can steer things the way they want to.

And if we have 6+ members that means that only half can be scum (much less, if we do our job right), so it couldn't really be scum controlled either, no matter who we pick to be in it.

This idea is new and fascinating. I am EAGER TO TRY IT

My nominations are me, you, charter, shos (yes, shos), and Vi

I'll leave off Elmo since you don't seem to want him. But I had a town read on that slot and still do

Shos I don't think will want to be on a team with me, but I have a town read on him so I want him in.

WHAT SAY YOU

[Katsuki]

Why Charter town?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I haven't liked Elmo all game, but I was wrong about Pizza, so what do I know

I've done mostly nothing. same with who I replaced....Im waiting on Kayne to come and say something else aside me being the "obvious scum".

And 1 does not look like I I don't see it.

[Katsuki]

It doesn't really matter much whether it looked like a 1 or not, but Yos went on about it for an awfully long time...

[UberNinja]

Why Charter town?

These posts seem town to me:

Parama is town.

Vote Kanye

Why is Parama town? I'm getting a distinctly different feeling, mainly from his shos-wagon hop.
Whether shos is town or scum is irrelevant; that hop in 39 followed by "This is beautiful" was scummy as fuck.

I was joking.

I will admit to not being sure about Shos or Parama right now.
Shos, who is scum and why?
Parama, are you planning on doing anything before Shos is lynched?

This is town because his response to me is short, sweet, and to the point.

He also admits to not being sure on two people, but then goes directly into questioning them in order to get better reads on them.

And what did you get from all your "shos pressure"? He's still flailing as much as ever, but you've dropped all mention of him.

He's genuinely noticing inconsistencies in others' play, not just quoting things and trying to spin them in a scummy way, like Yos.

Alright, Chiaro is scum. That makes Parama probably town. Quilford's replacing out is certainly questionable, but I've seen more town do it lately than scum.

298 sums it up pretty well.

However, you were also the first to draw attention to Parama, who I'm also finding scummy for claiming scum. Frankly, I wasn't comfortable calling him out on it due to knowledge of his meta but Vi's vote gives me more confidence. I'm not sure what to make of your interactions with him.

He's also been suspicious of Parama for claiming scum, even though he knows Parama would do it as town, but he doesn't say anything about it for a very long time. Then he blames Vi for his suspicion, saying 'well hey, Vi thinks it's scummy, so it must be'.

His change to Parama is scummy. Comes right after getting called out. His reason for voting Parama is terrible.

Unvote, vote Chiaro

He's drawing connections between other players, such as who is town based on who else is scum. He also gives Quilford the benefit of the doubt, which I don't think scum would likely do. The vote on Chiaro and reasons for voting him are also good.

All your posts about Quilford are one liners boiling down to "Quilford is scum" that are forgotten as soon as you read it.

Calling somebody out on bullshit, as I am fond of doing.

I'm leaning towards both Uber and Yos being town. Uber for a myriad of terrible reasons, the latest is how he's trying to paint Yos's lack of careful reading as scummy when there's no way Yos can purposefully being pushing this to gain an advantage as scum. And leaning Yos town for the same reason and the "case" on him is quite terrible.

I've already explained why this post is town-leaning.

[Katsuki]

I hadn't seen that post of yours.

I disagree. Town in general are far less likely to whip out the "I think X and Y is town v.s. town" than scum are, but rather dissuade them from arguing with each other. Labeling a confrontation as town v town is probably one of the easiest ways to gain town cred, especially from the people involved. Aka, it is pretty much buddying.

Plus only newb scum stands back and calls everyone lolnull so yeah, excuse me if I disagree with your argument for why Charter is town.

[UberNinja]

We'll have to agree to disagree on charter, then.

[Nuwen]

unvote, vote uberninja

[shos]

unvote, vote uberninja

Finally.

the whole pages 21-22-23 here were much much blaabber and less really talking. I don't understand how everybody is coming at Yos for misreading; while Ninja 'did' that too; that's A. and B would be, how comes people come at Vi for 'almost getting a premature claim' when he only voted, while ninja immidiately after posted a 'intent to hammer, please claim'.

I don't get it, do people ignore ninja's scumflips on purpose?


@those who just replaced in, ISO me - look at the last posts. there's some post where I start a full reread of the whole game and comment on anything I think important. in other words, vote Uberninja, lol.

[Zar]

shos, you said you'd take another look at Furcolow. What do you think of his case/vote pattern?

[shos]

shos, you said you'd take another look at Furcolow. What do you think of his case/vote pattern?

If I did I must've forgotten. I'll do it tomorrow.

[Vi]

Me, charter, Furcolow, shos, Elmo, and Vi should form a team and vote for people all together.
I don't trust Vi as much as the other three but if we all vote together... great things'll happen.

This is a reasonable bloc.
"Vote with us or get voted on" doesn't work, though, especially with this question: Who is the "we" deciding who gets lynched?

Or, never mind that question and try this one. Who do you want lynched that these people are most likely to agree to?

Or, never mind that question and let me get back to this after I put dinner in the oven.

[UberNinja]

unvote, vote uberninja

At least you're being consistent in your insistence to be useless.

That's about all I can say in your favor at this point.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Or, never mind that question and let me get back to this after I put dinner in the oven.

What are you making?

And on another note so everyones town read on UN just went away after the past 2 pages of nothing really but banter?

[UberNinja]

Nothing's changed except Nuwen's vote. shos has been calling me scum for quite a while.

Can you do me a personal favor and read the game? I do my utmost to win games for my team, but too often there's just a lot of idiots, or else the scum knows exactly where to hit them in their weak spot (i.e. Newbie 1206...) and despite my best efforts, things take a turn for the worst.

Please don't be *THAT* person in this game. Make yourself useful, for my sake.

[Yosarian2]

LOL this post is so fake it's almost funny.

Pretty sure you're the one person in the game who should understand how easy it was to read Vi's post like that, UN, since you said the exact same thing.

You're so full of...Blanquette de veau...it's unreal. Obviously I'm telling the truth here; and your claim that you somehow don't believe me makes absolutly zero sense, since your response to Vi's post was;

Is kanye really at L-1?
If so, I am expressing my intent to hammer, and asking for a claim.

Really, UN, next time you get a scum role and have to invent fake reasons to suspect someone, I'd strongly recommend you not go with one that's so obviously BS.

[Yosarian2]

Me, charter, Furcolow, shos, Elmo, and Vi should form a team and vote for people all together.

"Hey, how about me and by buddy Elmo get some obvtownies to buddy with us any lynch everyone else for a scum win?"

How about, no.

unvote:elmo

Vote:unberninja

Still be happy lynching either one of them; I'd be stunned if either flips town at this point.

[Vi]

Hey Yos, do you really think that The UNcola would be THAT hypocritical as scum?

[Yosarian2]

Hey Yos, do you really think that The UNcola would be THAT hypocritical as scum?

Is that why you think he's town, because you don't think anyone could possibly be this scummy as scum?

At this point, I'm pretty sure UN is willing to say anything, no matter how absurd, illogical, or obviously wrong, in order to attack me. And no, I don't think that's a town tell.

[Vi]

Hey Yos, do you really think that The UNcola would be THAT hypocritical as scum?

Is that why you think he's town, because you don't think anyone could possibly be this scummy as scum?

Quite the opposite; while there's something to be said for him being wrong or inflammatory I don't think he has been particularly scummy at all.

At this point, I'm pretty sure UN is willing to say anything, no matter how absurd, illogical, or obviously wrong, in order to attack me. And no, I don't think that's a town tell.

Actually this MIGHT be a Town tell.

[Yosarian2]

But, for the record, that wasn't the scum tell that pushed me to move by vote back to UN up to the point of being worse then Elmo; I'm used to bad tunneling from UN now, regardless of alignment. The straw that broke the camel's back here was actually the attempt on the part of UN to buddy up with literally every person I have listed as a town read, AND with my other main scum read, and try to get that group as a voting block. It looks like a (amazingly transparent) attempt on Elmo's part to just straight out engineer a scum victory.