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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:50 am

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Vi wrote:

Furc0low 615 wrote:I'm tired of
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defenses, honestly,
...I've defended myself? I know I don't remember anything for longer than 24 hours but I'm pretty sure I haven't done much of that.


I assumed he meant he's tired of your defense of people like UberNinja and Elmo.


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Yos2 617 wrote:I would be willing to reconsider my Quil read, Elmo, but the problem is your play has really been just as bad.
"You know, I think you're approaching a point where I would have to back off on my scum read, but I'm going to preclude that by holding this offense over your head."


Uh. Why would I back off of my scum read? What has Elmo does that seems at all townish?

Elmo was trying to defending himself by saying that people were only attacking him for Quilford's play, and I was pointing out that defense doesn't work at all because Elmo's play is just as bad. The slot is actually significantly MORE scummy now then it was before quilford replaced out, and considering how scummy Quilford was, that's really saying something.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:04 am

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Yos2 617 wrote:I would be willing to reconsider my Quil read, Elmo, but the problem is your play has really been just as bad.
"You know, I think you're approaching a point where I would have to back off on my scum read, but I'm going to preclude that by holding this offense over your head."

Haha, fuck yeah. I saw that too.

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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:05 am

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Yosarian2 wrote:Elmo was trying to defending himself by saying that people were only attacking him for Quilford's play, and I was pointing out that defense doesn't work at all because Elmo's play is just as bad. The slot is actually significantly MORE scummy now then it was before quilford replaced out, and considering how scummy Quilford was, that's really saying something.

No. Just, no.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:24 am

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Actually, reading through Elmo, there
is
something out of place that catches my eye.

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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:26 am

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No. Just, no.


You don't agree with me that Elmo's done nothing pro-town since he replaced in?

Ok, UN, I'm curious. Quote me one post that Elmo has made at any point in the game that looks pro-town, and isn't just filler or him voting someone for voting him. Any post.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:38 am

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Day 1 votecount 9

(4) UberNinja :
shos, Nuwen, Yosarian2, Zar,
(2) kanyeknowsbest
: Vi, UberNinja,
(2) Nuwen :
charter, Elmo teh AzN,
(1) Elmo TeH AzN :
kanyeknowsbest,
(1) Parama :
Pirate Chemist ,
(1) Pirate Chemist :
Parama,
(1) shos :
Katsuki,
(1) Vi :
Furcolow,

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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:41 am

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Ugh.

That is all.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:51 am

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Parama wrote:Ugh.

That is all.

very informative.

your opinion on UN?
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:02 am

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On one hand, he's not a *bad* lynch.
On the other, I don't like most of the wagoners.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:15 am

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No. Just, no.


You don't agree with me that Elmo's done nothing pro-town since he replaced in?

Ok, UN, I'm curious. Quote me one post that Elmo has made at any point in the game that looks pro-town, and isn't just filler or him voting someone for voting him. Any post.

There is almost literally nothing Elmo has done that is pro-town.

That doesn't mean he is scum. That means he's terrible.

Lynching terrible players instead of scum is how town loses.
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:21 am

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UberNinja wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:
UberNinja wrote:
No. Just, no.


You don't agree with me that Elmo's done nothing pro-town since he replaced in?

Ok, UN, I'm curious. Quote me one post that Elmo has made at any point in the game that looks pro-town, and isn't just filler or him voting someone for voting him. Any post.

There is almost literally nothing Elmo has done that is pro-town.

That doesn't mean he is scum. That means he's terrible.

Lynching terrible players instead of scum is how town loses.
then give me your case on Kanye, whom you're voting?
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:08 am

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UberNinja wrote:Kanye's votes seem to go against the flow of traffic. He's voting for Parama for RVS, and then when other people vote Parama, he switches to Quilford based on Nuwen's crap-for-brains case. All that buddying with Parama right at the very beginning could be scumbuddies trying to buddy-distance with joke-votes. Parama's self-righteousness doesn't feel anywhere near as genuine as mine or diddin's either. They could be scum together but for now I like a Kanye vote better.

Unvote; Vote: Kanye

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Summation of the game for Katsuki:


Quickwagon on shos D1, I unvote because it I just recently won a game as scum that started with a quickhammer on D1, Parama starts acting scummy and we wagon him, shos wagon disintegrates as people go over there instead, YOS IS SCUM, Parama cries foul, people start switching to voting other people, I take flak for being myself, FURCOLOW IS AWESOME, Vi makes statements like "y u no vote Parama hnnnggg", nobody really listens, I keep trying to get people to vote for Yos, and he starts flexing his 2005 and telling people I'm scummy for shit that makes no sense, Nuwen starts saying Quilford is scum for calling her and Yos scum, people wagon Quilford, he replaces out for Elmo TeH AzN, YOS IS SCUM STILL, Chiarosicada has been suspected vaguely by a lot of people since then, CHARTER IS PROBTOWN, kanye keeps throwing shit around to see where it sticks because that's all he's done all game, tunneling on Quilford because he's the major wagon, Nuwen also thinks Quilford's slot is scum with all her poor misguided heart, I keep saying that YOS IS SCUM to everyone but nobody believes me, and currently we have a good-to-great wagon on kanye that seems pretty likely to reveal scum, and then Pirate Chemist replaces Chiarosicada and you replace diddin who lurked a lot. Throughout all this time, Zar hasn't been doing much except being indignantly self-righteous yet strangely under-the-radar, which is why I didn't remember to mention him until now.

Based on my patented "find scum by looking for experienced/weighty players who don't seem to be playing up to snuff" methodology, scum lies in Yos, Vi, and Zar. According to the "scummy people are scum" methodology (which is widely overused, based on it's relative inaccuracy), Chiaro, Parama, and I are scum.

I tend to think it's a mix of the two, but the right mix isn't revealing itself to me yet. Perhaps tomorrow.

Everything else you'll have to read for yourself.

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charter wrote:Does anyone have a town read on Nuwen? I am wagering I'm not the only one who thinks she's scum.
Unvote, vote Nuwen

Furcolow wrote:
unvote;
vote: nuwen


let's do that alliance thing

You guys I much prefer Yosarian. Vi has also expressed support of that wagon.

I have a semi town read on Nuwen mostly because of "too dumb and obstinate to be scum" but that is quickly wearing thin as she only shows up for a few moments usually, and when she does, she says something so ludicrous that I'm beginning to feel it might just be her strategy: Lurking, and Refuge in Audacity, hand in hand.

Yos is still a capital lynch. Kanye has actually looked slightly townier with his last few posts, but I don't like the way he showed up right after Yosarian mentioned he was gone. He's still my second favorite overall, but Yos is definitely first.

What are your guys' opinions on Quilford/Elmo slot, PirateChemist slot, and Katsuki slot?

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Vi wrote:If I were that ten-shot dayvig UberNinja would be one of the people I would leave alive.

awwwwww <3

I agree though. I'd definitely leave me alive if I were someone else.

Other people left alive would be:
Furcolow
shos
charter
Elmo
and now diddin's slot

Elmo I'm having a harder time justifying keeping alive now though... his continued insistence on being mostly useless really irks me.

My top targets as a dayvig would be:
Yosarian
Kanye
and I don't think I'd be confident enough to shoot anyone else.

Zar's kinda winning me back, and I'm losing faith in Parama.

I can't read Vi for shit but I'd save Vi for last.

Here are my thoughts on Kanye.
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:09 am

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UberNinja wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:
UberNinja wrote:
No. Just, no.


You don't agree with me that Elmo's done nothing pro-town since he replaced in?

Ok, UN, I'm curious. Quote me one post that Elmo has made at any point in the game that looks pro-town, and isn't just filler or him voting someone for voting him. Any post.

There is almost literally nothing Elmo has done that is pro-town.

That doesn't mean he is scum. That means he's terrible.

Lynching terrible players instead of scum is how town loses.

Whats sad about this is I can't disagree. My play is shit. Am I working on improving it. Yes. Did I distance from Quil yes.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:18 am

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UberNinja wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:
UberNinja wrote:
No. Just, no.


You don't agree with me that Elmo's done nothing pro-town since he replaced in?

Ok, UN, I'm curious. Quote me one post that Elmo has made at any point in the game that looks pro-town, and isn't just filler or him voting someone for voting him. Any post.

There is almost literally nothing Elmo has done that is pro-town.

That doesn't mean he is scum. That means he's terrible.

Lynching terrible players instead of scum is how town loses.


If there's nothing he's done all game that's pro-town, then why are you treating him like confirmed town? Why have you been defending him so hard and trying to get him into your "alliance"?

I tend to think that "X has done nothing town all day" is pretty much the single most damning scumtell that there is; but even if you didn't think that, even if you think he's just null and unreadable, it still doesn't explain your behavior today.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:23 am

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@ninja,
you look like all those big companies trying to fill you up with papers since they know they're wrong, so they try to tire you out.
in the post you gave me about kanye - last two quotes are completely irrelevant; there is no case there, they just say that you think kanye is scum. the first - that's terrible reasoning for a lynch in my opinion. too little too late. the second - the only reference to kanye is 'we have a good-to-great wagon on kanye'.

in other words, you have no case, you're full of omlettes.
want to see how a case looks like, check out my case on you, lol.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:24 am

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be noted, by the way, that in the posts where I post my case on you, kanye is my other scum candidate, so even while I *do* have a reason to want a kanye lynch, your post is bad to me. you're much much worse than him.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:32 am

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shos wrote:be noted, by the way, that in the posts where I post my case on you, kanye is my other scum candidate, so even while I *do* have a reason to want a kanye lynch, your post is bad to me. you're much much worse than him.

So what about Parama? Did he just drop of the face of the earth for scum reads for you?
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:45 am

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shos wrote:
meanwhile I'm gonna UNVOTE: and VOTE: Uberninja.

likes:
Chiaro+++
Nuwen+++
Furcolow++
charter
Yos


Are simply scum:

Kanye,
Uberninja

Parama is a null read for me at the moment, as he was at the time of this post. nothing serious changed about him since.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:47 am

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just ISOed parma to see his posts from that post till now - they were only one-liners-style posts, nothing serious. so I didn't miss anything~
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:55 am

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kanyeknowsbest wrote:hey elmo would you say that you have a strong town read on the following people:
uberninja, furcolow, charter, shos, vi
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:56 am

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Vi wrote:Not to mention I've already pointed out that Quilford has replaced out as scummy Town as well.

do you have a link to this? i doubt it will do much to change my read on the slot but ill look at it.
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:02 pm

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kanyeknowsbest wrote:
kanyeknowsbest wrote:hey elmo would you say that you have a strong town read on the following people:
uberninja, furcolow, charter, shos, vi

I would say I have strong reads on
Vi
Furcolow & Shos.
The others not so much. I saw this this morning and meant to respond before I fell asleep.

UN I don't know what to think TBH..
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:04 pm

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Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
kanyeknowsbest wrote:
kanyeknowsbest wrote:hey elmo would you say that you have a strong town read on the following people:
uberninja, furcolow, charter, shos, vi

UN I don't know what to think TBH..

*sends you again to read my 4 posts*
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:05 pm

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yet you agree with an "alliance" comprised of those players + yourself?
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:06 pm

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UberNinja wrote:I have a reasonably strong town read on all of those except Vi.

similarly to you un, vi is part of your proposed town alliance and on this same page you are still calling for him to be a part of it. explain.
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