D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[BBmolla]

Meh. Killed N1 again I knew this would work out badly ;..( Go team, go!

^This

Also, I understand the misconception, I thought that originally.

Ooba (General Grievous) feel into a hole night one. He was a scummy scummy person.
Shadow Dancer (Boba Fett) was sliced and diced night one. He was also a scummy (only one scummy) person.

One scum team are "scummy scummy"
The other is "scummy"

[Slandaar]

Magna I get the impression for you you do not wish to help me read you in anyway

Do you think this is protown?

[MagnaofIllusion]

@BB

– a faked Bah post isn’t exactly something unheard of. That said I read the “only once scummy” line as saying he was the only member of his faction AKA a Serial Killer. Time will tell I suppose.

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Magna I get the impression for you you do not wish to help me read you in anyway

Do you think this is protown?

You should get the impression that I’m not your secretary.

You’ve been calling me scum since you started your ‘Teehee’ little ‘Im going to play Anti-Town” crusade. I’m not really interested in doing pointless legwork (as in it is criminally easy to see all my threads) as opposed to finding scum.

What would games of mine as scum do for you if I found them myself for you? It would make no sense for you to say “Aha, he’s not playing like that here so he’s Town” since I’m the one doing the fetching. And if your read is not going to change why should I bother?

My impression of your play – you’ve wasted the potential of a confirmed Town slot in your spammy posts that really don’t bring anything to the table as far as demonstrating why people are scum.

Yup Nexus is lurking. So is Split. You ignore my reasons for voting him. Do you think I am incorrect in thinking a player who says “I’m so busy”, minimally posts here, and then goes and signs up for two NEW games isn’t scummy?

[WrathChild]

Wait MoI. Are there two scum teams or was SD an SK?

[Nero Cain]

BB saying let Smugen and WC live gives me some bad vibes.

They're my buddies and I don't feel like bussing them.

vote: BBmolla

Policy vote for claiming scum, even in a joking manner.

ok......lets recap what you've done today. You have a "scum" read on WC. Then you switched to Gunny then you switch to BB for "policy". Whats with all the vote hoping here?

There a reason that you aren't explaining what makes you think WC is scum and why the wagon hop?

I keep thinking my vote would be better served at a different place than it currently is. Why else would I be switching votes constantly?
I already explained why I think WC is scum. Yesterday. Again, a lot of it is gut, and then there was the smug "I can't be buddies with PV" trying to push one scumteam.

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I really don't get that. Before you switched from WC to Shotty he was still the lead vote getter at three. I fail to see how switching from one scum read with more votes to a second scum read with no votes is making your vote "better served"

Actully, yesterday you didn't "explain" your WC read (or Shmugen or SD) all you said was said blanket statement that you felt they were "more likely to flip scum than town." The " smug "I can't be buddies with PV" trying to push one scumteam." comment was

AFTER

you had already called WC scum so you can't really use that as a reason you called WC sc in the first place so basicly your case on WC is gut.

@Shmugen explain your turn around, yesterday you were all like "if someone thinks I'm scum I'm not going to care" and today you are all like "lets argue!!!" what made you change your mind?

Gladly. There are two primary reasons for my change of heart. One, I'm feeling a touch lost in this game and getting into arguments with people is one of the few ways I've found that get me solid leads. Reading other people arguing doesn't do as much for me as I'd like it to. Two, I had not expected the idea of me being scum to take root in so many people. I am actively at risk of being blastered, I feel, and thusly it's time to do some talking.

But if you are actully town just arguing for the sake of arguing is anti-town as it gets. I won't beat around the push here, the fact that your stance changed over the night phase (when scum usally talk) doesn't put out the biggest pro-town vibe.

[Nero Cain]

BB saying let Smugen and WC live gives me some bad vibes.

They're my buddies and I don't feel like bussing them.

vote: BBmolla

Policy vote for claiming scum, even in a joking manner.

ok......lets recap what you've done today. You have a "scum" read on WC. Then you switched to Gunny then you switch to BB for "policy". Whats with all the vote hoping here?

There a reason that you aren't explaining what makes you think WC is scum and why the wagon hop?

I keep thinking my vote would be better served at a different place than it currently is. Why else would I be switching votes constantly?
I already explained why I think WC is scum. Yesterday. Again, a lot of it is gut, and then there was the smug "I can't be buddies with PV" trying to push one scumteam.

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I really don't get that. Before you switched from WC to Shotty he was still the lead vote getter at three. I fail to see how switching from one scum read with more votes to a second scum read with no votes is making your vote "better served"

Actully, yesterday you didn't "explain" your WC read (or Shmugen or SD) all you said was said blanket statement that you felt they were "more likely to flip scum than town." The " smug "I can't be buddies with PV" trying to push one scumteam." comment was

AFTER

you had already called WC scum so you can't really use that as a reason you called WC sc in the first place so basicly your case on WC is gut.

@Shmugen explain your turn around, yesterday you were all like "if someone thinks I'm scum I'm not going to care" and today you are all like "lets argue!!!" what made you change your mind?

Gladly. There are two primary reasons for my change of heart. One, I'm feeling a touch lost in this game and getting into arguments with people is one of the few ways I've found that get me solid leads. Reading other people arguing doesn't do as much for me as I'd like it to. Two, I had not expected the idea of me being scum to take root in so many people. I am actively at risk of being blastered, I feel, and thusly it's time to do some talking.

But if you are actully town just arguing for the sake of arguing is anti-town as it gets. I won't beat around the push here, the fact that your stance changed over the night phase (when scum usally talk) doesn't put out the biggest pro-town vibe.

[Kdub]

I am not seeing panicked scum tones from bbmolla's response to your pressure.

No, what you are seeing instead is BB active lurking hardcore since I started pressuring him. Seriously, check out his recent post history, and that's even if you throw out all posts except ones in games he is in.

Those two posts you quoted that gives you townvibes from BB could not possibly have been more random or innocuous. I get that sometimes people just have a "gut" feeling, but I feel like you are really stretching to justify your gut townread here.

MoI Shadow wasn't an SK.

That's your only comment on the game after I showed your reasoning on Nexus was crap?

[sword_of_omens]

i still see it as 1 scum, two scum...distinguishing 2 seperate teams..

As I mentioned – your pursuit of BB is what furthers my suspicions. Odds of him being scum are astronomically small

especially since we had Shadow who was a Non-Blaster Non-Force killing Serial Killer in our midst

. Very little reason for him to manufacture that claim which makes him a pretty big target to said SK. I don’t see you focusing on Scum with either of your two top ‘suspects’ today.

where does it say Shadow was non-blaster, non-force killer? Did I miss it?

also

@MOD, i will be V/LA for the weekend starting today...thanks!

[BBmolla]

@BB – a faked Bah post isn’t exactly something unheard of. That said I read the “only once scummy” line as saying he was the only member of his faction AKA a Serial Killer. Time will tell I suppose.

I read it like that at first too. But it makes more sense if it's specifying that there is only one scummy in the title. What would the point of WIFOMing as a Serial Killer be, he loses no matter what MoI.

That's your only comment on the game after I showed your reasoning on Nexus was crap?

I think the better note is that Nexus hasn't had any comment on the game since your last post.

Why are you so opposed to me voting him? Can I not try to explore a venue of a player whose lack of activity I find suspicious?

[BBmolla]

That was probably a townslip by MoI btw.

[splitfarvle]

VOTE: Split

I’ll be frank – Post 1010 and his whopping 16 posts in thread doesn’t sit well with me when he’s actively signing up for multiple other games instead of focusing his attention on this on.

Games that probably won't start until my finals are over. Reach harder.

While I'm at it:

Ooba lurking does not give me happy thoughts. Low content ooba is generally scum ooba. I need to review his activity in the archive …

ooba has also disappeared from the site twice in the past year. I'm not really surprised at his low activity.

I know this to be true but when he does he disappears completely. Scum ooba does tend to post in a very different way than Town ooba. Look at Back to the Future Mafia (if it still exists) or Atomic Mafia as examples.

After my case on ooba:

Have you ever played with Town ooba before? And use of Chainsaw before any alignment flips noted.

It seems to me that MoI was implying that he suddenly thought ooba was town because of meta reasons after thinking he was scum for meta reasons.

After ooba's flip, I made a case linking ooba with WC, MoI's response:

Does anyone think ooba left his vote on WC in an attempt to distance from a buddy?

Doubt it … ooba’s scum meta is to defend buddies not bus. See Back To the Future Mafia as a recent example.

What gets me is the constant referrals to meta instead of the actual content of ooba's posts. Contrast that with what he's said about other players, where he specifically addresses their content and posts, or lack thereof.

Also of note:

Lynches I oppose: (Town read - don't see these changing)
18. Iecerint
20. Slandaar

Lynches I won't support today: (Town read but some might change depending on flips)
1.

MagnaofIllusion

2. Kdub
17. ShadowDancer

4. SleepyKrew Malee
- Decent town vibes from Malee. SK not providing content is a bit distressing but sticking to original read.
3. PeregrineV
- Same scumlist as mine and voted both of them (WC\Fennin). Didn't look like bussing votes.

Lynches I'd rather not have:
14. Nero Cain
- Despite the misunderstanding about the chainsaw, has been consistent in his views during the game. We dont agree on some scum reads (SK,Slan) but overall posting appears protown.
16. brizingre1idanyboy Kise
- Town vibes from Kise early on. Also like brizingre's scum\town list.
9. Nexus
- Pure gut; reminds me of his play in Test of Faith Mafia. (where he was town)

Here is ooba’s list of reads from Post 323. Odds are overwhelming in favor of him having at least 1 scum-buddy (and likely more) in these categories.

Thus the pool of scum based on ooba are –

Iecerint, Kdub, BB, Nero, Briz, Nexus

Keep this in mind Long-term.

Bolding mine. MoI deliberately leaves his own name out of the list of "the pool of scum." While still relying on his "meta" read of ooba. Which was either proven wrong, or stretched to fit MoI's purposes because he's ooba's scumbuddy. In other words, MoI directs other players to "note" a list of names that he subtly left his own name off of.

unvote

VOTE: MoI

[splitfarvle]

Assuming Shadow is part of a team:

My analysis of his posts don't yield much. The most he seemed to push were two confirmed town (Slan, Pere) and Nero. I'd be willing to clear Nero as Shadow's buddy since SD was pushing two town. He seemed somewhat... protective, maybe? of the malee slot, now occupied by hasdgfas, so he would be my pick for a scumbuddy.

[Kdub]

I think the better note is that Nexus hasn't had any comment on the game since your last post.

Why are you so opposed to me voting him? Can I not try to explore a venue of a player whose lack of activity I find suspicious?

Sure, Nexus is lurking, but he's been lurking all game. You, on the other hand, only respond when I attacked you, and it took several people talking about your lack of content before you finally dug up some suspects. Now, you are parking your vote on Nexus when you couldn't even keep straight why you originally suspected him. You are not looking for scum, and your play isn't even what I could see as lazy town play. You are trying to appear active only because people started calling you on it, then you made up some reasons to suspect Nexus. That's like the definition of active lurking.

[drmyshotgun]

VOTE: MoI
He looks like a threat.

[drmyshotgun]

Oh, I'm already voting for him!

[BBmolla]

I think the better note is that Nexus hasn't had any comment on the game since your last post.

Why are you so opposed to me voting him? Can I not try to explore a venue of a player whose lack of activity I find suspicious?

Sure, Nexus is lurking, but he's been lurking all game. You, on the other hand, only respond when I attacked you, and it took several people talking about your lack of content before you finally dug up some suspects. Now, you are parking your vote on Nexus when you couldn't even keep straight why you originally suspected him. You are not looking for scum, and your play isn't even what I could see as lazy town play. You are trying to appear active only because people started calling you on it, then you made up some reasons to suspect Nexus. That's like the definition of active lurking.

Do you think he's town

[Slandaar]

You should get the impression that I’m not your secretary.

Wait... you are not my secretary??? Well that explains that then

You’ve been calling me scum since you started your ‘Teehee’ little ‘Im going to play Anti-Town” crusade.

Not exactly, your scumhunting was unreasonably biased, you clearly did not care what I said, you were not scumhunting you were pushing mislynches.

What would games of mine as scum do for you if I found them myself for you? It would make no sense for you to say “Aha, he’s not playing like that here so he’s Town” since I’m the one doing the fetching. And if your read is not going to change why should I bother?

I want to check something, If you do not wish me to check said thing, my read wont change therefore its in your interests as both scum and town to give me links. The only way my read on you will change at this point is via meta.

Yup Nexus is lurking. So is Split. You ignore my reasons for voting him. Do you think I am incorrect in thinking a player who says “I’m so busy”, minimally posts here, and then goes and signs up for two NEW games isn’t scummy?

I did not ignore.

I want to understand why you voted Split over Nexus, why not vote Nexus the leading wagon, seems important to have an opinion on said player if you were town.

[Kdub]

Do you think he's town

Nice dodge again. But to answer your question, I don't really think the case on him is very strong, so he's neutral/null to me.

[Shmugen]

I'm beginning the process of moving, so I'll be a bit V/LA until Monday afternoon.

[DeathNote]

Vote Count

WrathChild

- NeroCain (L-8)

BBmolla

- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)

MagnaofIllusion

- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle (L-6)

Nexus

- Iecerint, shmugen, BBmolla, Brizingre1 (L-5)

drmyshotgun

- Slandaar (L-8)

Iecerint

- swordofomens (L-8)

swordofomens

- 4nxi3ty (L-8)

splitfarvle

- MagnaofIllusion (L-8)

With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch

~Sending Prods~

[Nero Cain]

Is that VC correct?

[DeathNote]

~Vote count fixed~

~GreyIce replaces Andrius. Thanks GreyIce!!!!!~

[GreyICE]

Hi guys.

Unvote

Need to read this

[Slandaar]

BBmolla

- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)

MagnaofIllusion

- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle (L-6)

Nexus

- Iecerint, shmugen, BBmolla, Brizingre1 (L-5)

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Magna

[drmyshotgun]

I thought GreyICE was temporarily banned.