Worst Role Mafia - GAME OVER!

[danakillsu]

And of course my last post referred to Oversoul's post. Ninjas!

[Phillammon]

Okay. Let's be honest with ourselves here. Oversoul, if we did lynch you, a flip would be almost completely useless unless it outright said regular mafia goon. Which, looking at the thread... it fundamentally won't. We may get an indication as to what sort of role you may or may not have, but nearly everything has been modified beyond recognition.

You're not our kill for today.

PEdit: +1, dana

[Oversoul]

True, but if what IceGuy is saying is true then we are back to square one and I was either redirected or there is a bus driver

[saulres]

Oversoul, do you still think my "he feels like he's trying to appear town without actually being town" case is crap? I think I pretty much nailed it if your current claim is true.

I'm okay with leaving Oversoul's lynch for closer to LyLo at this point. But I'm not willing to lynch mafia-n00b on the say-so of someone who admittedly doesn't know what his ability does. I'd rather get confirmation from a more reliable source. Especially when there's a good alternative wagon for today.

Vote: Iceguy

[Oversoul]

Oversoul, do you still think my "he feels like he's trying to appear town without actually being town" case is crap? I think I pretty much nailed it if your current claim is true.

I'm okay with leaving Oversoul's lynch for closer to LyLo at this point. But I'm not willing to lynch mafia-n00b on the say-so of someone who admittedly doesn't know what his ability does. I'd rather get confirmation from a more reliable source. Especially when there's a good alternative wagon for today.

Vote: Iceguy

Eh. A lot of your case was about me and GNR + 2birds which I would support their deaths as town anyway.

It kind of reminds me of the game I just modded wherein a vanilla town claimed scum in order to "get people active" and Internet Stranger said lynch him anyway because it would be dangerous to keep him around. Charter, the vig, shot him based pretty much on that one post. I feel like I am IS in this case and you are Charter.

[Phillammon]

True, but if what IceGuy is saying is true then we are back to square one and I was either redirected or there is a bus driver

This sounds counterintuitive, but you're thinking of it too logically. "Mafia Busdriver" is a good role. "Mafia Selective Lightning Rod" (Could be, I guess) is an okay role. Think of this in worst role terms. If you were redirected, it was for something much, much weirder than a simple redirect. Example: maybe your role takes effect on someone above/below your target on the playerlist? (Not to cast aspersions on people nearby him...) Maybe there's a whirlpool, who takes everyones actions and switches who performed them? Maybe someone is some kind of, I dunno, switchboard operator, who can see who is receiving actions but not who they're from and what they are, and switch them around if they so wish?

Think outside the box. Then stop, cause that's quite painful.

[ShadowGirl]

Oversoul, do you still think my "he feels like he's trying to appear town without actually being town" case is crap? I think I pretty much nailed it if your current claim is true.

I'm okay with leaving Oversoul's lynch for closer to LyLo at this point. But I'm not willing to lynch mafia-n00b on the say-so of someone who admittedly doesn't know what his ability does. I'd rather get confirmation from a more reliable source. Especially when there's a good alternative wagon for today.

Vote: Iceguy

How is Oversoul's role and the WIFOM it presents any better to carry on until LyLo when you were willing to lynch Phil?

Okay. Let's be honest with ourselves here. Oversoul, if we did lynch you, a flip would be almost completely useless unless it outright said regular mafia goon. Which, looking at the thread... it fundamentally won't. We may get an indication as to what sort of role you may or may not have, but nearly everything has been modified beyond recognition.

You're not our kill for today.

PEdit: +1, dana

Oversoul. could. be. lying.
And I think especially given the nature of the role and the WIFOM it presents (if he's telling the truth), it's something that's dangerous to keep around.

@Oversoul: In light of the fact that you have no known alignment, why would you get so angry at your lynch (that town was lynching town), when you don't even know if that's true or not? I'm not seeing exactly why would be so invested in your lynch.

[Oversoul]

I'm not seeing exactly why would be so invested in your lynch.

Because I was hoping I was town.

[Oversoul]

WIFOM it presents (if he's telling the truth), it's something that's dangerous to keep around.

Which is why I didn't claim originally

[ShadowGirl]

WIFOM it presents (if he's telling the truth), it's something that's dangerous to keep around.

Which is why I didn't claim originally

You didn't even want to claim right before you were about to be lynched.

Also, not to spook any of you, but deadline is in about 16 hours.

[BBmolla]

Oversoul needs to fullclaim, role name and abilities. Not this "Let me lightly tease you with my role" bullshit.

I believe Mafia-Noob more than Oversoul atm.

[RedPanda]

Oversoul needs to fullclaim, role name and abilities. Not this "Let me lightly tease you with my role" bullshit.

I believe Mafia-Noob more than Oversoul atm.

this^

Oversoul I asked you to nameclaim and cut the shady bullshit.

[ShadowGirl]

I'm not seeing exactly why would be so invested in your lynch.

Because I was hoping I was town.

I still see an inconsistency in between hoping you're town and trying to play town and going full freak-out about being lynched and proclaiming you're townness, given your role. And the self vote? That scream scum to me. I think it's an admirable effort to try and survive another day, not to mention get info on another player's role, but I think you're lying.

[RedPanda]

You need explain What you think is optimal scum behavior and what I exhibited.

Dont just pull things out of your ass.

back it up.

You've done shit this game.

Just coasting through letting lynches happen with or without your help.

How about, y'know, actually reading what I'm writing?

I did.

Reading it makes me want to give you rope.

[mafia-n00b]

Guys, I'm willing to get lynched if my flip would help with town strategy. Even at my best, my role isn't all that awesome (as far as I can tell). The best I could hope for would be "sorta" immune to night kills, which hopefully gets a town-aligned player to lylo... like I said, not super awesome. If you are going to lynch me though, allow me to fullclaim FIRST so at least you know if flips are reporting role PMs accurately.

[Amrun]

IceGuy, you need to claim now - you said you had results pertaining to mafia_n00b. Share them immediately.

Right now, I feel more confident in mafia_n00b than in Oversoul, but I don't know why we are ignoring corroborating evidence.

[RedPanda]

Mod confirms robotnick took no night action. Redpanda, yesterday, got email that thread was updated at 11:16 am. Saw a few posts that I hadn't seen. I then didn't get any other emails for this thread yesterday until after I posted in the evening. I don't think subscriptions always work very well. I had checked my other games a little more recently because I got emails on them. My fault, I suppose, I've seen this sort of thing happen before and I should have known you all wouldn't have gone that many hours with no posts.

So did you check the thread anytime during page 56 - 57?

because somebody says they saw you on the users browsing forum list.

[ShadowGirl]

IceGuy, you need to claim now - you said you had results pertaining to mafia_n00b. Share them immediately.

Right now, I feel more confident in mafia_n00b than in Oversoul, but I don't know why we are ignoring corroborating evidence.

So why are you currently voting mafia_noob, then?

[Phillammon]

Gack. UNVOTE: .

[mafia-n00b]

So did you check the thread anytime during page 56 - 57?

because somebody says they saw you on the users browsing forum list.

I don't believe so.. but I'm also in Quack Mafia which is also in the Theme Park forum, and I'm pretty sure I checked that thread during the day. I sometimes check from my iPhone when I think I'll have time to read and end up not reading much/anything, so I guess it's possible I loaded up the page and then had to do something else. I don't know how long I would show as "on the forum" if I get a phone call or switch out of Safari or whatever.

[RedPanda]

So did you check the thread anytime during page 56 - 57?

because somebody says they saw you on the users browsing forum list.

I don't believe so.. but I'm also in Quack Mafia which is also in the Theme Park forum, and I'm pretty sure I checked that thread during the day. I sometimes check from my iPhone when I think I'll have time to read and end up not reading much/anything, so I guess it's possible I loaded up the page and then had to do something else. I don't know how long I would show as "on the forum" if I get a phone call or switch out of Safari or whatever.

It been less than 24 hours.

Its a simple yes I checked the thread or No I didn't question.

[saulres]

How is Oversoul's role and the WIFOM it presents any better to carry on until LyLo when you were willing to lynch Phil?

It's not.

But Phil wasn't getting lynched, Oversoul is moving away from lynch, and Iceguy is moving towards it, so I didn't see it as beneficial to keep my vote on the one losing votes, as compared to moving it to the one who is, when deadline is so close.

If Phil or Oversoul gets to be a good lynch again today, I'll move to them. I want a lynch today because no-lynch only hurts us (giving scum a free kill when we have to kill the non-LyLo people anyway) so I'm looking at viability.

[Amrun]

IceGuy, you need to claim now - you said you had results pertaining to mafia_n00b. Share them immediately.

Right now, I feel more confident in mafia_n00b than in Oversoul, but I don't know why we are ignoring corroborating evidence.

So why are you currently voting mafia_noob, then?

Because TWO PEOPLE say he's lying. I am trying to confirm this, but for now, the odds are stacked against him.

[saulres]

Because TWO PEOPLE say he's lying.

Oversoul said he was lying, and that's much more reliable than people who aren't the accused person. Your logic isn't making sense.

[Phillammon]

Holy hell.

I'm going to be afk a majority of that time due to timezones and other stuff, but I'll try to be as active as possible. I'm willing on an MN or an Iceguy lynch right now. If everyone else could express preferences in their next posts, please do so.