Worst Role Mafia - GAME OVER!

[RedPanda]

I'm lynching oversoul

If he doesn't nameclaim.

[Phillammon]

Sorry, that was PEdit Blocked from *way* earlier. I could also be convinced to go for OS, for the flip, despite everything I've said.

[IceGuy]

IceGuy, you need to claim now - you said you had results pertaining to mafia_n00b. Share them immediately.

Since nobody seems to pick up the bread crumbs ...

I wonder if he's actually dead. The fact he didn't flip and the flavor is "vanished" seems to indicate he can return to the game at some point.

I'll wait what mafia_n00b has to say. Getting rid of mcqueen isn't exactly scum best strategy.

Regarding 2b1s: My role is actually a heavily modified version of the one in the thread: the original version had a non-town wincon and a different mechanic, only name and basic idea are the same. So I was skeptical of the announcement in the beginning, and am somehow inclined to believe him.

... here is a slice of toast thrown right at your faces:

I sent in that action. I'm the Abductor. Every night, I can abduct someone and/or free someone. Abducted players count as dead when it comes to wincons, but don't flip and don't get access to the Dead QT, and return to the game when they're freed.

I can only hold two people captive at a time; I have no idea what happens to my captives when I die.

This is the original.

[ShadowGirl]

Gack. UNVOTE: .

Explain?

How is Oversoul's role and the WIFOM it presents any better to carry on until LyLo when you were willing to lynch Phil?

It's not.

But Phil wasn't getting lynched, Oversoul is moving away from lynch, and Iceguy is moving towards it, so I didn't see it as beneficial to keep my vote on the one losing votes, as compared to moving it to the one who is, when deadline is so close.

If Phil or Oversoul gets to be a good lynch again today, I'll move to them. I want a lynch today because no-lynch only hurts us (giving scum a free kill when we have to kill the non-LyLo people anyway) so I'm looking at viability.

I am going to hold you to the fact that you say you will vote Oversoul if the wagon picks up again (although it does still have the most votes).

PEdit: Two people have expressed they will vote him, convincing enough for you?

Holy hell.

I'm going to be afk a majority of that time due to timezones and other stuff, but I'll try to be as active as possible. I'm willing on an MN or an Iceguy lynch right now. If everyone else could express preferences in their next posts, please do so.

Please vote Oversoul, I'll give you a cookie.

[saulres]

Two people have expressed they will vote him, convincing enough for you?

Expressing they will vote != voting. Oversoul would have been lynched already if that weren't true as two people said they intended to hammer but were still giving more time.

Having said that, if he gets back to L-1, I will hammer. Is that sufficient for you?

[Phillammon]

1499 was written before 1493. I now fully agree. Sorry, Oversoul, but you're going down. VOTE: Oversoul

Shadowgirl help us if this is wrong.

[ShadowGirl]

@IceGuy: I give you a medal and my eternal love. I knew there was a reason I was absolutely sure I didn't want to vote you.

I still see an inconsistency in between hoping you're town and trying to play town and going full freak-out about being lynched and proclaiming you're townness, given your role. And the self vote? That scream scum to me. I think it's an admirable effort to try and survive another day, not to mention get info on another player's role, but I think you're lying.

I'm quoting this post for in a nutshell to explain Oversoul.

Please place some more votes on him.

Two people have expressed they will vote him, convincing enough for you?

Expressing they will vote != voting. Oversoul would have been lynched already if that weren't true as two people said they intended to hammer but were still giving more time.

Having said that, if he gets back to L-1, I will hammer. Is that sufficient for you?

Well, a shit storm sort of happened after he got at L-1.

I would really prefer you vote him right now because this close to deadline I don't want anything fishy happening. If you'd like, you can wait until there's one more vote if you're really dead set on the fact that the wagon needs to get going.

[saulres]

Need a current votecount so I don't renege.

[ShadowGirl]

Need a current votecount so I don't renege.

I will make a vote count in a second. This is going to take a little bit of skimming.

[Amrun]

VOTE: Oversoul

[BBmolla]

Phil your switch from OS-MN-OS was awful btw

[saulres]

I think this is right.

Oversoul (7) - Gimmicky Alt, brizingre1, ShadowGirl, , mafia-n00b, Oversoul, Phillammon, Amrun
IceGuy (6) - RedPanda, PokerFace, syndromeofadown, danakillsu, Foxace36, saulres
mafia-n00b (2) - Tierce, inte, ,
Phillammon (2) - IceGuy, Captain Haddock
danakillsu (1) - knox
inte (1) - BBmolla

theamatuer (0) -
Amrun (0) -
Captain Haddock (0) - none
brizingre1 (0) - none
Foxace36 (0) - none
BBmolla (0) - none
saulres (0) - none
PokerFace (0) - none
ShadowGirl (0) - none
Gimmicky Alt (0) - none
RedPanda (0) - none
knox (0) - none
syndromeofadown (0) - none
Tierce (0) - none

No Lynch (0) - none

Not voting (0) - theamatuer,

pedit: That's because phil is scum

[Tierce]

UNVOTE: mafia_n00b
VOTE: Oversoul

Sorry. Your lynch reveals your role, if it's a typical amnesiac role. And if you're town, you probably win with us.

There's still the question of why on earth would someone redirect Oversoul, or whether his role is actually random.


saul dying would not be a bad thing.

[ShadowGirl]

@saulres: I think Foxace36 is voting Phil, but yeah, you're right as far as I can tell.

[RedPanda]

Pokerface : Unvote Vote Oversoul

[ShadowGirl]

@saulres: And that's L-1 on Oversoul, and I believe you said you were willing to commit to a hammer if it came to it.

[mafia-n00b]

OK, so that leaves us with:

A) Oversoul is lying to save his hide
B) Oversoul was redirected last night
C) Someone intentionally shifted IceGuy's night action to Robotnick
D) Oversoul is some bastard (paranoid-ish) tracker that always gets results from someone he DOESN'T track
E) Someone out there unwittingly randomly shifts stuff (super ouch)

Anything I'm missing?

Assuming we lynch OS and he flips scum, we go with A... but if he flips town, how do we figure out which of the others it is?

[RedPanda]

Actually its L-2.

[saulres]

FoxAce's last vote

Panda, you're moving Poker's vote but not yours? Way to be noncommittal.

pedit: Remove that was said, that was said, sheesh this game is moving fast all of a sudden, that was said: Nothing new to add here.

[RedPanda]

I don't think oversoul is lying.

Oversoul talked about the abducted thing even before it was mentioned.

What irks me is That oversoul is refusing to nameclaim and has been beating around the bush for the last two days.

[mafia-n00b]

UNVOTE:

I'm willing to put my vote back on OS, but I want the rest of the day to discuss this first, and I don't want a hammer before we hash this out.

[Amrun]

NO, mafia_n00b. Put that vote back RIGHT NOW.

We don't have "the rest of the day." Put it back.


Oversoul was clearly just trying to stall and make us no lynch or deadline lynch someone else.

[Tierce]

Oversoul likely isn't lying, at least about his result. How on earth would you get 'abductor', and what is the point of, as scum, making such a claim on someone that will not flip Abductor?

PEdit: See RedPanda's post.

saulres is still being way too aggressive for his townstyle. :/

RedPanda, why aren't you voting Oversoul yourself?

[ShadowGirl]

Actually its L-2.

Oh, yes, my apologies, forgot it was 11 needed to lynch.

@saulres: Oh, fair enough. My bad as far skimming goes.

UNVOTE:

I'm willing to put my vote back on OS, but I want the rest of the day to discuss this first, and I don't want a hammer before we hash this out.

You do know we have like 14 hours until deadline, right? Just please put your vote back on; he would be at L-2 anyway. I'll start thinking about your question in a second, just please don't make me any more exhausted than I am.

[theamatuer]

Iceguy, you claimed abductor right?
release Mcqueen this night please
also, I'll give intent to hammer, and will do so before the deadline