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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:50 am

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Code_X wrote:Mastin - can you point me in direction of a couple of recently completed games where you have been town and scum.

Likewise KK.

Kublai Khan - The last crash wiped out some updates though.

Most recent... The Aftermath (scum), Animal PetPick (SK), War in Heaven III & Final Fantasy 6 Mafia (Both were largely eaten by tigers -- I think my entire contribution, in fact..)

Probably some I'm missing. I really should get organized.
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:41 am

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Eh, the last few pages are pretty much all town squabbling with town and it's annoying.

Pine:
What led you to change your mind?

Everyone:
Does Mastin do this kind of thing as scum?
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:44 am

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Wait am I reading Mastin's walls right? Is he really saying that KK and and Junpei are scum for interaction with Macros but has those two as higher suspects than Macros?

Or is he just trying to split his top six scumreads into two groups for shits and giggles?

@benmage: Who would you like to wagon? Convince me here.
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:44 am

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DeasVail wrote:Eh, the last few pages are pretty much all town squabbling with town and it's annoying.

Pine:
What led you to change your mind?

Everyone:
Does Mastin do this kind of thing as scum?

I think that people do this as scum, because it works as a smokescreen to hide the inability to fake scumhunt.

Vote Mastin

I think we can get support for this scums' death.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:46 am

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Unvote: Pine

Vote: Mastin


Too scummy to be scum.
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:48 am

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DV explain how "the last few pages are pretty much all town squabbling with town"

but in the next sentence you question Mastins alignment?
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:58 am

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The "pretty much" means mastin is the exception.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:01 pm

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So you no longer think Pine is scum?
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:05 pm

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...Wow. He made a FAQ.

Not scummy, though.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:06 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:So you no longer think Pine is scum?


No. I'm just bored.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:10 pm

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DeasVail wrote:The "pretty much" means mastin is the exception.


Mastin IS the page. Who says "pretty much" excepting a glaring exception?
"Pretty much" means "more or less", "basically", etc.

And damn, nero, can't you say anything more about me beyond the periodic "psyche is on my lynchlist" crap?
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:11 pm

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Unvote: redFF


He'll have to wait.

Vote: Mastin
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:12 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Not a fan of any of the lead wagons.

I guess I'd vote pine.... need to read.

does not compute

I meant if I had to pick one.................
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Of course it doesn't Benmage has been coasting and inventing reads this entire game.

And All you've done is looked at me.

You're:
A. Horrible.
B. Scum.

I'm thinking a combo.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:19 pm

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Psyche wrote:Mastin IS the page. Who says "pretty much" excepting a glaring exception?
"Pretty much" means "more or less", "basically", etc.


Ok.

Does it matter?
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:21 pm

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Psyche wrote:

And damn, nero, can't you say anything more about me beyond the periodic "psyche is on my lynchlist" crap?

If you want I can. I think you're fluff posting, IIOA loving, active lurking, non scumhunting scum. :)

Benmage wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Not a fan of any of the lead wagons.

I guess I'd vote pine.... need to read.

does not compute

I meant if I had to pick one.................

but you think all the leading wagons are town. If you think this and are town shouldn't you know try to start a wagon on scum?
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:22 pm

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The Mini-Librarian wrote:
@benmage: Who would you like to wagon? Convince me here.

Hezzlucky. Granted there's a ton I haven't read.

He's seemed altogether too consumed by me. He was actually guilty of many of the things he accused me of early on.

-His parade of "Burden of Proficiency" against me is something easy to hide behind.
-His continuous useless tunnelage that I assume by now has everyone tuning him out.
-----In Inglorious Bastards a theme'd mini, I as scum, tunneled on DemonHybrid to no end. I've seen this scum tactic work before.

One it drains the person you tunnel.
Two with little support, or done slowly you can hide being this veil of 'scumhunting' for days.
Three if the person engages back you can create a tangent to hide behind/be consumed by.
Four people tune out the continuous rant and become disinterested in it, and in the people involved.

Like I said, We the scum team in IB, swept the town. DH was also who I'd consider the best town player on the list. And he's who I tunneled.

In the recent scumwiniviational (as scum) I went toe to toe with Glork, probably the best town player in that game. I kept attacking his 'experience'. Glork by the end hated the game, and vow'd never to play another scummyinvite.

In Mafia Invictus (as scum) I purposely kept Tar alive to debate with, again probably the best/ most experienced player in that game.

This aint Hezz's first rodeo. I could see him trying to tackle a big target like me. And as aformentioned the reasoning to tunnel as scum is both logical, and effective.

-Now this is a big ole rant for something that might not even matter as other than reading a bunch, there's a few things I wanted to analyze.
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:23 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Not a fan of any of the lead wagons.

I guess I'd vote pine.... need to read.

does not compute

I meant if I had to pick one.................

but you think all the leading wagons are town. If you think this and are town shouldn't you know try to start a wagon on scum?

I'd love to do this. If you can just stop time for everyone and everything except me, I'll get right on it.
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:28 pm

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Active lurking's more of a willpower thing. You'll have to accept that I'm taking the backseat this game, and that this is not necessarily scummy.

I dunno what IIOA means.

The fluff keeps me pumped, but I can drop that if you want.
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:28 pm

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Code_X wrote:I think he's bad more so for the way he played regards the Rack lynch. As I say he always seemed to be happy to push and prod the lynch along, despite vehemently claiming Rack was town at several opportunities.

Meh, does'nt look like it to me.

I did notice how easily he jumped off antihero after making a big song and dance about CCV though.

Nero Cain wrote:Stating that someone is town or scum via unflipped player attack is ridiculous.

Nero Cain wrote:itt psyche is scum and knows Jun is town.


Checking the time stamps the second quote was posted 47 mins after the first one.
That was funny.

HezLucky wrote:You claim you are unfamiliar with the site meta of old players and then you go on to hold it against Macros.

What? Where does he claim that?

I don't wanna wagon Mastin. Junpei seems town.
Nero...I would live with it.

Macros and FG would be the preferable alt wagons.

I would like to say more but recently it's been the same few people talking about the same stuff. Or at least it really seems that way to me.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:32 pm

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Benmage wrote:I could see him trying to tackle a big target like me.

...Hate to break it to you... but you aren't a big target; your scummy means really nothing to any of us. Rest of your case seems more like you got anti-tunnel-vision. He attacked you and you felt that therefore he must be scum and formed those opinions.
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:35 pm

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Junpei wrote:
Benmage wrote:I could see him trying to tackle a big target like me.

...Hate to break it to you... but you aren't a big target; your scummy means really nothing to any of us. Rest of your case seems more like you got anti-tunnel-vision. He attacked you and you felt that therefore he must be scum and formed those opinions.

Who gives a fuck about scummies. I dont. The game I got it in was meh.

But anyways.

Who on this list is better than I?

No one. The closet in skill and experience is KK, and after the two of us it falls off drastically.

Who do you think would be the biggest?
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:38 pm

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DeasVail wrote:
Psyche wrote:Mastin IS the page. Who says "pretty much" excepting a glaring exception?
"Pretty much" means "more or less", "basically", etc.


Ok.

Does it matter?


Your post that "The "pretty much" means mastin is the exception" seems like a disingenuous attempt to cover for a scummy inconsistency.

(And Nero's anti-Psyche stance seems opportunistic and his behavior toward you can be characterized as weak distancing. Ignoring your spurious answer and all suggests he didn't care about his question.)
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:40 pm

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Ben playing the ego card. LULZ!!!
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:41 pm

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I would take myself, Kublai Khan, and Librarian before I pick you. And this is coming from someone who has seen you in multiple games the past year. You don't show someone with a lot of skill like you claim you have. The biggest target in this game? Do you mean who has the most skill in this game or who is the hardest person to bring down or who is playing the best this game?
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:42 pm

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Librarian? The guy who called a total of one person scummy on day 1?
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