Heroes of Comedy Game Over - He who laughs last!

[vijay2vasandani]

^ dude. It's Fate. Don't like you haven't heard that this is how he posts. You don't have to like it.

@ Fate: did you say Yates seemed townish? *not sure if serious*

[jasonT1981]

Day 1 Vote Count 3

MOI 3 - Benmage, pappums rat,Yates
Korlash 2 - Istark, Korlash,
Pizza 2 - Shotgun, Fate,
IStark 1 - Knox
Jester 1 - PeregrineV
Benmage 1 - MOI,
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,

Not Voting

The Jester
Pizza,

It is now Day 1, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

(expired on 2012-05-15 10:21:52)

till Day 1 Deadline

Knox (1) has been prodded

[pappums rat]

Vote: MoI

Just cause.

Post 1, Pizza throws random vote on MoI.

Fate, did you admit to being scum in 74?

Fate answers "Yes". Nothing more from Pizza on this.

Post 125 is a great summary, but why are we already at L-1 without someone making a SOLID case. He is acting far different then I have seen him before, but I'm not sure what that means.

Given that post 125 was made by me, I would assume he was meaning Post 135. By MoI.

Why do you RVS yourself? (Just out of curiousity)

Comes out from lurking to further enhance quizzical expression Vijay posed. Kinda like parroting. He adds: "Just out of curiousity." What can this mean? That he knows he isn't asking serious question of course. That he means absolutely nothing by it and will be satisfied with whatever answer Korlash gives.
And basically this is it...I have stated that I know that I'm out of my depth being in this game, but at least tried to justify my

raison d'etre

.
I'd imagine Pizza to be better than me but he seems to have detached himself from the game's progress and occassionally pop up to say something which won't do Town any good.

Unvote

Didn't realize my RVS was still on Vijay.
VOTE: Pizzadude
To apply pressure on him.

This is a good case, and pizza's reaction to this vote followed by Fate's vote on him was terrible. His unvote of MoI was terrible, no reason given at all, just folding under pressure. The "Benmage get an avatar" was lulzy as hell, fluff moar. His "Fate pisses me off and is arrogant" is more BS fluff posing as actual scumhunting.

Unvote
Vote: pizzadudes

MoI has defended well, but I still think he is likely scum at this point. I dont like how he has refused to answer points made against him, as well as his refusal to claim when people expressed intent to hammer. Not claiming isnt necessarily scummy, but it is terribly antitown, and MoI is one of the more protown players on this site.

I doubt that MoI and Yates are on the same team. I think if one flips town, the other will flip scum. Benmage, on the other hand, I am confident is town. Fate and PV are lesser townreads. Korlash and V2V are entirely null atm.

[Benmage]

I'm gonna goto the gym shortly, and see if I can muster the strength when I return to sink my teeth into this.

[drmyshotgun]

Funny Fate should not referrence me

at all

on his Pizzadude case. But I like his tough-going style in a strange sort of way.
I get a sense of sheer confidence in himself and not flinching away to get what he wants is frankly something I should value in learning.
His means should definitely get reactions from scums like Pizza. And I think he already has.
Look how Pizza is talking about Benmage/Pappums Rat/Fate when until now he hasn't posted anything that helps Town.
This applying pressure thing really works, doesn't it? Especially when Fate goes on about it.

Pappums Rat on the other hand is effectively putting further pressure on Pizza.
I like it when people under-rader (from my p.o.v) comes out to aid scum-hunting.

[Fate]

Drmy I literally did not see you had voted for him. Must have been lost in the walls >_>

Don't mistake me, I won't take credit for catching him first if he flips scum, you can feel all warm and fuzzy inside

Good vote from Pappums

[drmyshotgun]

Aww flattery. <3

[Korlash]

I think there is at least 1 scum in Benmage / Fate and probably at least 1 scum in pappums / Yates.

I like this... I like this a lot... Add Pere to the rat/yates pool and put one of Drmy and Pizza as a possible third and I'm all over that.

Fate jump from MOI to Yates doesn't fill me with warm happy feelings. Neither does his jump to Pizza. From one wagon to the next, I never pegged you for the follower mate, I thought you liked to lead the town to places.

A hypothetical is never true at the time it is a hypothetical, semantically or otherwise. If it were true, then it would be a fact.

Thank you. You just agreed with my point. you did ask MOI to give reads based on untrue information.

I disagree. Reads are not always based on tangible things. To wit:

Yes they are. It's impossible to have reads based on intangible things, otherwise it can't be a 'read'.

And I asked MoI for his reads based on the fact if he were lynched. It's common for town to leave thoughts, etc. behind, even on day1, even on page whatever. Your argument that "it's in the future, how will he ever know" makes no sense.

And yes you did take liberties, and you are now saying that someone can't give reads based on things that might happen? "If I die tonight, here are my reads." That is hypothetical , and yet is done very often.

It's pro-town to give reads BEFORE things happened. I asked MoI for his HYPOTHETICAL death post, that he would give BEFORE he died.

You arguing against him doing any such thing like you did in post 225 makes me wonder why.

So, why?

1) "If I die tonight" isn't something to base a read off of, that's impossible. You are basing your read off of what happened during the day, not the kill itself. Being killed at night is just the excuse to give the reads, not the basis of those reads. Keep your crap analogies out of my game.

2) Giving reads before something happened is helpful, and if you had to group it it would fall under the 'town' category but it's not a hard on 'pro-town' move. Not doing it does not make you scum and regardless of if you ever said the word 'scum' or not that was clearly your implication in post 195. Add in the fact this 'request' was a hidden threat AND that you demanded him to answer you based on untrue information and this push about how 'pro-town' he isn't being just screams scum on your part.

3) What I did in 225 and what you asked MOI to do are not the same. If you had simply asked MOI "What are your reads" then they would be the same. But you fabricated a situation and specifically asked him for reads based on that situation.

Semantics. You got to love them.

And that seals the deal I'm afraid.

Unvote:, Vote: Pere

It's one thing to believe in something that is wrong, we all make mistakes. It's another thing to be told you are wrong and to REFUSE to reevaluate your case. The entire 'scum tell' was based on a slip that I just proved had other possible reasons yet you call it 'semantics'. You're scum reaching for a reason against MOI and calling the presence of a 'third game' semantics in this discussion is proof of that.

In addition to that, your failure at the start of this post to keep on track with the 'hypothetical' discussion by actually arguing against your original stance proves this isn't a real discussion for you, A townie keeps his stance during discussions and a scum simply argues against his opponent.

I'd add in your implications about him being anti-town for not answering you but sadly my assumptions about your implications don't amount to much in the way of a case. I'll stick to the other two.

I would vote Rat for his 277 if Pere didn't deserve it better. The calling Drmy's case 'good' followed by irrelevant drivel and a constant use of the word 'fluff' and the latter 'if one flips town the other will flip scum' red flag. His MOI stuff makes me suspicious of him although I have to admit I'm a little wishy washy on him as well. (just with an opposite conclusion) I just don't get why he feels as strongly as he does over MOI yet hops onto Pizza based entirely on Drmy's case. (His pointless drivel didn't add anything of value)

If there is any call for a Rat wagon I'll hop over but until then I like where my vote's parked now.

[vijay2vasandani]

@ shotgun: can we lynch Yates first?

@ Fate: I asked this just before. Did you say Yates seemed townish? Can you explain please?

[knox]

So sorry been my computer died a little but all fixed now, will be back with a post after catching up tomorrow.

[Fate]

I thought I was leading the town Korlash, to my woe in Pappum's post it was revealed that I was not the pioneer of this wagon, it was gyrados.

T_T

[iStark]

@Mod: I'll be needing replacement for my slot as I wont be around for next few months due to traveling abroad for industrial training. I'm extremely sorry for inconvenience but I didn't foresee this.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Peregrine

– You dodged my questions at Post 255. Answer them in your next post or I’ll sheep Korlash and vote you.

@Pizzadude

– Who are scum and why aren’t you voting for them at this juncture?

Benmage is still obv-scum and his dodging the thread instead of answering what was put out showing such. Funny you have time to make 24 posts in other threads before the “Oopps I’ve got to go to the Gym, I’ll try to come back later and stop being obv-scum”

--

Pappum’s wagon hop on pizza at Post 277 it scummy.

@Pappums

– so please establish your stance for me here – you think both Pizza and I are scum together and Pizza dropped an RVS vote on me and left it there with no content as I quickly gathered a wagon to L-1. He then unvoted only after the wagon had distintigrated. Is this a proper summary of your thoughts?

MoI has defended well

, but I still think he is likely scum at this point.

I dont like how he has refused to answer points made against him

, as well as his refusal to claim when people expressed intent to hammer. Not claiming isnt necessarily scummy, but it is terribly antitown, and MoI is one of the more protown players on this site.

1. Note the bolded self-contradiction. He’s saying I defended well yet I’m simultaneously not answering points against me? Lulz, no.
2. Pappums please quicklink to any ‘point’ against me that I have not addressed.
3. So you are admitting that half the reason you think I am scum is not scum driven behavior (not claiming) but simply ‘Anti-Town’?

UNVOTE: Benmage
VOTE: Pappums

Oh if I only was a Doublevoter so I could keep my votes on all the obv-scum at once.

I doubt that MoI and Yates are on the same team. I think if one flips town, the other will flip scum. Benmage, on the other hand, I am confident is town. Fate and PV are lesser townreads. Korlash and V2V are entirely null atm.

Oh look, lining up lynches based on Town flips. But let’s examine this more closely –

Earlier in this very post he suggested that I was still scum. By this logic if he truly believed that Yates should be in his solid Town reads. But no … he’s keeping Yates positioned as “mislynch fodder”.

Yates is now off my scum-list as pappums is scum making sure to position himself to push on Town when another Town flips.

@Korlash

– get on Pappums … Post 277 deserves instant rope!

[jasonT1981]

@Mod: I'll be needing replacement for my slot as I wont be around for next few months due to traveling abroad for industrial training. I'm extremely sorry for inconvenience but I didn't foresee this.

No worries, have fun. and good luck with the training

[Korlash]

@Korlash – get on Pappums … Post 277 deserves instant rope!

Aye, aye captain. *salutes*

Unvote:, Vote: Rat

That contradiction you pointed out explains why his stuff on you seemed so fishy to me. And the part about Yates goes hand in hand with what I said about his feelings on you so yeah, lets wagon up this motha'!

V2V, come join us! *waves hand* These are not the droids...

[MagnaofIllusion]

So sorry been my computer died a little but all fixed now, will be back with a post after catching up tomorrow.

For the record I see this excuse (re technical issues like dead computer or internet outage) much every game I play in. Either MS causes complete undo stress on computers, the players on the site or universally unlucky, or it is being used by scum as a means of explaining disappearances.

I'm starting to keep track of it from this point on in a QT for my personal edification.

[Korlash]

Ha, this is when people start fucking with you saying they have computer problems when they really don't as town. Like for instance, I'm having computer issues right now. Like right now, it's arguing that we should watch the incredible hulk but I'm like "no, we need to watch Thor" and it's like "but I didn't like Thor" and I'm like, "tough, we watched Hulk the other day." and then it gets all moody and starts lashing at me with it's power cords so I have to grab my sword and start fending it off until it eventually eats me...

That would make a good Stephen King novel... 'Killer Graphics' or something... yeah...

[drmyshotgun]

@ shotgun: can we lynch Yates first?

Why do you ask this specifically to me?

I can sort of see how Pappums Rat got a free bus ride with his vote now.
But Pizza is yet to show more of what he has got in store.

[jasonT1981]

The Mini-Librarian replaces Istark. Thank you.

[The Mini-Librarian]

Hello everyone.

Reading now.

[Korlash]

It's a short Noah Wyle!

And Drmy's last post makes me sad. Do you think it's better to vote someone simply for pressure instead of voting actual scum? D:

[drmyshotgun]

He was radiating scum reactions from our votes.
Perhaps you guys would see him as scum when he reacts further.

[Korlash]

So... You're voting him in hopes he looks scummy later? Seems backwards.

What about his reactions 'radiated scum' exactly?

[pappums rat]

I would vote Rat for his 277 if Pere didn't deserve it better. The calling Drmy's case 'good' followed by irrelevant drivel and a constant use of the word 'fluff' and the latter 'if one flips town the other will flip scum' red flag. His MOI stuff makes me suspicious of him although I have to admit I'm a little wishy washy on him as well. (just with an opposite conclusion) I just don't get why he feels as strongly as he does over MOI yet hops onto Pizza based entirely on Drmy's case. (His pointless drivel didn't add anything of value)

If there is any call for a Rat wagon I'll hop over but until then I like where my vote's parked now.

Take a look at the last couple vote counts. MoI was put at L-1 and several people requested he claim, and there was intent to hammer. Nothing happened. Then he dropped to like 2-3 people voting him. There is no way in hell MoI is getting lynched today. On the other hand, drmyshotgun pointed out numerous points regarding pizza, and I figured since MoI isnt going to get lynched, my vote would be better served on a wagon that had momentum.

Pappum’s wagon hop on pizza at Post 277 it scummy.

@Pappums

– so please establish your stance for me here – you think both Pizza and I are scum together and Pizza dropped an RVS vote on me and left it there with no content as I quickly gathered a wagon to L-1. He then unvoted only after the wagon had distintigrated. Is this a proper summary of your thoughts?

MoI has defended well

, but I still think he is likely scum at this point.

I dont like how he has refused to answer points made against him

, as well as his refusal to claim when people expressed intent to hammer. Not claiming isnt necessarily scummy, but it is terribly antitown, and MoI is one of the more protown players on this site.

1. Note the bolded self-contradiction. He’s saying I defended well yet I’m simultaneously not answering points against me? Lulz, no.
2. Pappums please quicklink to any ‘point’ against me that I have not addressed.
3. So you are admitting that half the reason you think I am scum is not scum driven behavior (not claiming) but simply ‘Anti-Town’?

UNVOTE: Benmage
VOTE: Pappums

Oh if I only was a Doublevoter so I could keep my votes on all the obv-scum at once.

I doubt that MoI and Yates are on the same team. I think if one flips town, the other will flip scum. Benmage, on the other hand, I am confident is town. Fate and PV are lesser townreads. Korlash and V2V are entirely null atm.

Oh look, lining up lynches based on Town flips. But let’s examine this more closely –

Earlier in this very post he suggested that I was still scum. By this logic if he truly believed that Yates should be in his solid Town reads. But no … he’s keeping Yates positioned as “mislynch fodder”.

Yates is now off my scum-list as pappums is scum making sure to position himself to push on Town when another Town flips.

@Korlash

– get on Pappums … Post 277 deserves instant rope!

My jump to pizza is scummy, eh? You want to explain why?

Regarding your

@ pappums

: Dont put words in my mouth and misrep me. I never said there were associative tells between you two. Neither of you have flipped yet, so I am not trying to make connections between you.

1. You have defended well, there is no doubt about it. You have had an answer for pretty much everything that has been put to you, and I would not expect anything less from a player of your caliber. The point I made about not addressing everything is that you havent commented on the point I made in #2:
2. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 6#p4004416 You didnt say anything about the game in question, you just brushed it off with your own single game point and called my post fluff.
3. LOL keep misrepping me MoI, you just dig your grave deeper and deeper. I was pointing out that not claiming is antitown and you are not an antitown player, I never said I voted you because of it. If you somehow are town, you are suffering from some serious confirmation bias.

Oh wow, the old "lining up lynches" rhetoric. I dont know that you are scum. It is possible you are town. If you do turn out to be town, which I doubt, I think the chances of Yates being scum are increased by a great deal. And I have never mentioned lynching Yates, then or before, so you making it out like I have been looking to lynch him before is a crock of shit.

[drmyshotgun]

@Mod: know should be given a prod

@Fate: Why did you vote Yates THEn read the thread and vote me? Why not just actually read the thread?

So what is Pizza saying here? He hasn't given anything interesting to be pointed out throughout the game, and has posted around 6 (at this point) and wants Fate to go read the thread?
He also asks Moderator to prod Knot in hoping to be seen as Town requesting a prod.

Now, I looked at MoI's ISOs and decided to go through a couple of them myself.

Where is this ISO? Are you going to keep them in your treasure chest of all things cherished?
Or are you buying sometime to make up stuff in order to get out of the mess you are in.

Pappums: He hasn't supplies anything pro-town or anything at all (coming from me, yeah). And he continually pushes the MoI wagon even when he hasn't supplies any kind of reason why.

Although he acknowledges the fact that he isn't really the one who should be saying these things, he says it anyway.
And after saying that Pappums doesn't deserve his spot on MoI wagon, he gets off himself before anyone can counter question him.

His response to Fate seems very frustrated and not in an angry-town way.
He doesn't recognize my vote on him (just like Fate, but meh), but reacts certainly hotheadedly towards Fate's poking at him.
Says Fate is "sure using lots of metas" on his case on MoI. Well, what did

he

use on

his

case on MoI? Nothing. Zip. Nada. "Just Cause".
Of course it goes without saying he got off of his vote on the same post so that people won't question him. If questioned he can just answer: "I had a gut feeling. But now its gone."

You're questions are useless and a poor attempt at feigned scumhunting.

Your reaction to my arrogance is scummy fuck too. "Don't get me wrong Fate, not trying to undermine your validity but your arrogant"

That whole paragraph is information but no analysis outside of pesronality. So you've got me down as arrogant, and Benmage as defensive, but who the fuck is town and hwo is scum?

Yeah you're dying today

Thanks for the update scum. Have fun with the mislynch.

This post shows him sure of his own lynch. And calls it a "mislynch". Well what he expects us to react like to this, I dunno but it sure doesn't look like scum-hunting Town.

Oh, you are arrogant. Also, that post was arrogant.

Empahsis on Fate's arrogance. Perhaps in attempt to get people to ignore Fate?
Comes off as frustrated Scum who is frustrated because things were going smoothly while his lurking and now he has to come out and face some crowd.