NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[Benmage]

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Benmage comes off as the scummier one in his tiff with HezLucky.
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Explain please.

Still busy. This game, still on the backburner. Not much else to say.

[redFF]

I'm not going to declare V/LA or anything because I'm around on site but Im going to be pretty busy for the next ~week or so so be prepared for not much content. Will still be here and reading i hope.

[HezLucky]

I sure hope you will, scum.

Love how the scum in this game are lurking their way through.

[Code_X]

Peregrine V - How are them replacements and prods going we seem stuck here, going nowhere fast.

Red - You ignoring Post 1178 on purpose?

[redFF]

I'm not going to respond to your shitty PBPA. PBPAs are by definition terrible because you force yourself to find something scummy in every post.

Yes I didn't respond too an NN question in pregame about my read on 2 players with about 10 posts combined between them, I was more focused on other things. If you think that's me dodging giving reads when I answered the question like a page later then you're stupid and I have no problem with you thinking that.

Yes I was very against the rack wagon for it's entirety, rack wasn't scummy, and when NS claimed he was rack it all made sense. I don't know what your angle is on me being off the shitty day 1 wagon on town so I don't really know how to respond to it. How does me not thinking rack was scum make me scum? Is everyone off the rack wagon scum? The post about the rack wagon being great was sarcasm lol.

I don't see where I was "pushing and prodding" the rack lynch apart from that one post I made after a very bad rack post. He was town and I was right, if that's your case then go ahead and vote me and see how many people join you.

You're not scum though I don't think, probably just bad.

[redFF]

Peregrine V - How are them replacements and prods going we seem stuck here, going nowhere fast.

Red - You ignoring Post 1178 on purpose?

also can you read

I'm not going to declare V/LA or anything because I'm around on site but Im going to be pretty busy for the next ~week or so so be prepared for not much content. Will still be here and reading i hope.

[Kublai Khan]

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Benmage comes off as the scummier one in his tiff with HezLucky.
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Explain please.

Still busy. This game, still on the backburner. Not much else to say.

Because he's right. Just popping in every so often and saying "Gosh guys, I'm really busy, but I'll post something content eventually! Scout's honor!" is the definition of active lurking.

You're avoiding commenting on the game and not giving reads. On top of that, you're only scanning for your name in particular. Which is survivalist behavior.

[Kublai Khan]

Yes I was very against the rack wagon for it's entirety, rack wasn't scummy, and when NS claimed he was rack it all made sense.

Really? It "made sense" that fucking Nobody Special thought he was in a "shitstorm" and was waiting to be bailed out?? Nobody Special can't handle himself?

Plus you called rack town way before you knew it was Nobody Special, so you're full of shit.

[Kublai Khan]

@KK for the last time I'm not asking Mastin for a read or case on you. I asked once and that was it. I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up.

Yes. I understand that. I admit that I misunderstood the second request that I had quoted originally. However, the point remains that you did ask mastin2 to outline a case against me while you were under pressure.

Stating that someone is town or scum via unflipped player attack is ridiculous.

Says the guy who has

no problem at all

with mastin2's input.
When did I ever say that?

Have you not read any of mastin2's posts all game? A large majority of his scum-hunting style is to read people as scum or town based on their interactions with other players. So if honestly believe what you posted in 1217 is correct, then you wouldn't be interested at all in mastin2's reads on anyone. You are inconsistent in your attitudes.

Everyone:

Does Mastin do this kind of thing as scum?

Well, the game I've played with mastin2 where he was scum is outdated (thought it was multi-scum), but he was really, really obv-scum. He reads as town in this game.

Once there's an actual scum-flip, mastin2 can help uncover the rest of the scum-team really well, but until then he's just spinning his wheels in the mud. Being massively wrong and full of himself isn't a scum-tell for him.

Actully, in Mafia on werewolf islad he did something similar when he was outted. And he should know that it's very anti-town to flood the thread like this.

It's anti-town, but he does it plenty of times as town.

[redFF]

Yes I already had a town read on him, when ns revealed that town read got stronger.

[Kublai Khan]

Yes I already had a town read on him, when ns revealed that town read got stronger.

Yeah, but it is (and was) a bullshit town read.

"Head B is coming to bail me out"
"Head B is coming"
"Head B is coming"
"Head B is coming"
"Head B is coming"
"Head B is coming"
redFF: "Gosh! He's so town!"

The only reason why you're not a strong scumread for me right now is that all evidence points to this being a multi-scum game. So your play is merely bad instead of scummy. But feel free to stop commenting only about yourself and start making cases on people.

[redFF]

sup KK are you going to vote me or are you just pushing with bad reasoning on me in the hopes of having shit town like code_x jump on my wagon.

I did not say he was so town. I simply said he was a town read because nothing he was doing was scummy to me. Coming out and saying he was waiting for his other head to "bail him out" is not something scum would do.

Scumreads as of now
Firestarter, KK, shotty

notice how both firestarter and shotty have completely disappeared?

[Code_X]

Scumreads as of now
Firestarter, KK, shotty

notice how both firestarter and shotty have completely disappeared?

Lurker/Absent. OMGUS. Lurker/Absent.

Good work Sherlock.

Regards my pbp - I had 40 pages to catch up with its easier to go through things chronologically. If you don't like it so be it - not my fault you came out scummiest. It helped me get to grips with what happened not posting my thoughts helps no-one.

Regards you, not answering questions doesn't bother me. But, you actively tried on several occasions to push lynches other than Rack. Firestarter and CCV - yet also couldn't really give a shit if Rack lynched.

Why is KK scum?

[redFF]

What, if I'm pretty consistently saying someone is town, how am I not giving a shit if he's lynched? And if i'm actively pushing lynches other than him, how do i not really give a shit if he's lynched? In the end, it was day 1, a townie lynch is not that big a deal, I did all that can be expected of me to prevent it; state why I'm opposed and push beter wagons.

Yes by all means go through my posts 1 by 1, but don't market it as a good analysis.

I literally just said what set off my scumdar about kk in my last post. I don't have time to post a full analysis and who knows if I will.

Code_X, currently you have nothing on me. Either get a real case that isn't "he defended a townie and pushed other lynches" or gtfo.

[Kublai Khan]

sup KK are you going to vote me or are you just pushing with bad reasoning on me in the hopes of having shit town like code_x jump on my wagon.

Pfff..

I did not say he was so town. I simply said he was a town read because nothing he was doing was scummy to me. Coming out and saying he was waiting for his other head to "bail him out" is not something scum would do.

Why does "

nothing he was doing was scummy

" mean town read and not null read?

Town read means something he did caused you to think "Heyyyy-y-y-y-y-y.. He's got a town role PM because of {action X}"

Fill in {action X} with your reason for thinking he's town. Note that {action X} can't be a negative action.

Scumreads as of now
Firestarter, KK, shotty

notice how both firestarter and shotty have completely disappeared?

Staggering coincidental that I'm suddenly on your scumreads after I call you out on some shit.

And you're not actively pushing anything. All you're doing is saying vague "so-and-so are scum". Do something more than take up space. Argue something. Show your work.

[redFF]

yes the shitty obviously scumdriven wagon was why I had a town read. Notice how there was a kill off the wagon? Scum doesn't want to shoot into the wagon because if they do they're narrowing down the amount of shitty town diluting the scum concentrated on that wagon.

You called me out on no shit KK, because I'm not spouting shit.

[redFF]

At this stage town is wrapped around scum's fingers or terrible and up their own ass. We're heading to a loss.

[HezLucky]

At this stage town is wrapped around scum's fingers or terrible and up their own ass. We're heading to a loss.

We're definitely heading for a loss if we lynch OH I'M REDFF I AM SO USEFUL I AM DEFINITELY NOT SCUMMY AT ALL.

This is why I'm voting you. Despite all the scummy things everyone else has done.

[Kublai Khan]

yes the shitty obviously scumdriven wagon was why I had a town read. Notice how there was a kill off the wagon? Scum doesn't want to shoot into the wagon because if they do they're narrowing down the amount of shitty town diluting the scum concentrated on that wagon.

You called me out on no shit KK, because I'm not spouting shit.

Wait, what? There were two kills last night. One of them hit the wagon and one of them didn't. How are you figuring that Antihero (who was on the wagon) wasn't a scum kill?

At this stage town is wrapped around scum's fingers or terrible and up their own ass. We're heading to a loss.

Right, it'd be better if we mumbled a vote on Firestarter and otherwise didn't make any waves?

I want your reads on everyone, redFF.

[PeregrineV]

Vote Count 2-2

(as of Post 1368)

mastin2 (4)

- Pine, Junpei, DeasVail, Code_X

Pine (3)

- Maxous, drmyshotgun, scooby

Junpei (3)

- HezLucky, Lady Lambdadelta, mastin2

Nero Cain (2)

- The Mini-Librarian, Kublai Khan

The Mini-Librarian(1)

- Nero Cain

Firestarter (1)

- redFF

DeasVail (1)

- Psyche

Not Voting (6)

- Benmage, Firestarter, GreyICE, FakeGod, drmyshottyizsik, Macros

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch

Deadline:

Thursday, May 11, 2012 3pm CST

Replacing:

GreyIce
Macros

Prods:

drmyshottyizsik

V/LAs:

FakeGodMay 3

[PeregrineV]

Peregrine V - How are them replacements and prods going we seem stuck here, going nowhere fast.

Crappy, IMO. If anyone knows someone with a love of reading who would replace in, please let them and me know.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Peregrine V - How are them replacements and prods going we seem stuck here, going nowhere fast.

Crappy, IMO. If anyone knows someone with a love of reading who would replace in, please let them and me know.

If the mod would allow it, I could do my best to talk GreyICE into remaining in the game.

Of course, if you consider that talking outside the thread I will refrain.

[Code_X]

Vote: RedFF

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What, if I'm pretty consistently saying someone is town, how am I not giving a shit if he's lynched? And if i'm actively pushing lynches other than him, how do i not really give a shit if he's lynched? In the end, it was day 1, a townie lynch is not that big a deal, I did all that can be expected of me to prevent it; state why I'm opposed and push beter wagons.

Yes by all means go through my posts 1 by 1, but don't market it as a good analysis.

I literally just said what set off my scumdar about kk in my last post. I don't have time to post a full analysis and who knows if I will.

Code_X, currently you have nothing on me. Either get a real case that isn't "he defended a townie and pushed other lynches" or gtfo.

This makes me want to kill RedFF.

At this stage town is wrapped around scum's fingers or terrible and up their own ass. We're heading to a loss.

This makes me want to strangle RedFF, but I don't see the scum motivation for saying it.

Sorry, but we're not killing RedFF today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: RedFF

[X]

Sorry, try again. Why don't you explain how post 1366 can be from scum for me?