Open 396 - Democracy Ho! (D3)

[Psyche]

Yes, please to blow us all away and hold our little hands.

[kuribo]

Okay, for right now, we're going to play a new game. I like to call it, "ARE YOU AN IDIOT OR SCUM."

I'm going to go down the list, and explain to each and every one of you why you are at the very least, a fucking idiot and at worst scum.

Staeg is not a fucking idiot, and is exempt from this exercise.

FIRST TO BAT: BIRDFACE

EBWOP: I think my vote is serious this time, but I'm not sure.

You're an idiot, because being serious about your vote is like being pregnant. You either are, or you aren't. This is stupid / scummy because it looks like you're hedging your sorry little bets.

That trips my scumdar, hard.

Staeg for town (he actually cares about the questions he's asking, this is generally a town trait)

Which is it? Or did you say to yourself, "Hmmm, can't vote him or someone will call it OMGUS. No one will buy it if I call him scum, better toss a shot over the bow." Idiot? Or scum? THERE ARE LITERALLY THREE POSTS BETWEEN THIS 180.

*sigh*

Okay guys, you were right, Chrimi's scum.

Unvote
Vote: Chrimi

L-1.

very fucking constructive of you to sheep the strong bandwagon and give up on your "LET'S LYNCH OM, BUT HE'S TOTALLY NOT PARTNERS WITH CHRIMI" Or did you forget you said that? Are you an idiot, or scum?

Btw, if his inactivity keeps up, I suggest someone vigs him. Kamikrazy's a potential vig target too, but nowhere near as good as Prolapsed.

Trying to smoke out the vig, classic paranoid scum. A VIG IN A SMALLTOWN? REALLY? Idiot, or scum?

How do you know there's no vig in this game, Psyche?

I stated it as a hypothetical situation, you stated it as a fact.

Unvote
Vote: Psyche

I'm posting this, not because it's scummy, but because it lends credence to the idea that bird is an idiot.

Okay, I agree with most of what Psyche said, but I do take issue with some of it.

One, as much as I'd love to be right about Om of the Nom, he looks far less scummy than Chrimi. Chrimi's posts are fluffy and irrelevant. Om's posts, while somewhat scummy, are relevant to the game at hand.

The most serious vote Chrimi has made all game was an OMGUS vote. Om's votes, while I strongly disagree with them, have had reasoning behind them.

I find Staeg relatively townie, but he's more null than anything. I'll ISO him when I get home (I'm currently at TAFE atm), but for the time being, I wouldn't consider him for a lynch.

If we mislynch today, I doubt scum are going to put themself up for lynch tomorrow (though it's not impossible). My reason for saying this is that day two LyLo is way too good an oppurtunity to pass off. I don't like the idea that our resident lurker, Prolapsed, could make it to LyLo. That idea scares me. A lot. Kamikrazy is making me nervous too, but at least he voted.

My vote stays where it is for now.

So you refuse to break your tunnel until the popular wagon is L-1? Cute. YOU LITERALLY TUNNELLED ON OM FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE GAME. then, as soon as the new hotness is up? OH SHIT, OM'S TOWN. No. Fuck that. I won't even ask, because it's scummy, not stupid.

I really wouldn't say he's not doing anything. He's not doing much, but he did pounce on Psyche and Chrimi when they entered the thread without giving comment to the goings-on; he could have instead let discussion stall. He also follows up on his questions, which says that he cares about the answers. Okay, I overstated his towniness a little, but I am fairly sure of him still.

I think having Prolapsed down as such a strong scumread reeks of scum pushing the easy mislynch, Om.

Vote: Om of the Nom

I was going to say that Psyche could be scum, and well, he could, but I don't think so. The only thing that bugs me about him is that he required prodding to move his vote from Om to Chrimi.

Oh, is it time to tunnel back on Om? k. Idiot, or scum?

Well, after six days, let's lynch. Kami and Prolapsed get modkilled for not posting. There's a better than 5/9 chance that one of them's scum.

Six players alive.
Two are scum.
All players have an equal chance to be scum.
There is a 2/6 = 1/3 chance for a player to be scum.
2/3 to be town.
4/9 that both Prolapsed and Kami are town
5/9 that one of them is scum.
That's ignoring the fact that some of us are unlikely to be scum.

If it's a 50/50 toss-up that scum get modkilled vs. a 100% chance we have lurkers alive in LyLo.

Trying to game the fucking system without danger to yourself? K. Idiot, or scum?

Okay, he normally lurks. However:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

He normally does manage to post content.

Which is it, jizz genius?




Alright, nipplefucks, WHO WANTS TO GO NEXT?

[kuribo]

oh god dammit, I fucked up my quote tags


YOU SEE WHAT YOU SHITS DO TO ME

FUCK

why you gotta make me hit you, baby?!

[2birds1stone]

You... you complained about EpicMafia players earlier, right?

[kuribo]

hit a little close to home, did it?

[2birds1stone]

No, actually. MafiaScum didn't tell me I was ninja'd. Sorta changed the meaning of my post.

Okay, that's content. Not the sort of content I wanted to see, but content.

Reply coming in my lunch break.

[kuribo]

aw, sweetie, it's okay if you have to try and figure out how to answer for your stupid-ass posts


we can wait, or you can pick someone else to go under the microscope while you cry into your my little pony pillowcase

[2birds1stone]

First up, being good at this doesn't give you the right to be a douche.

Second up, I'm not so convinced you are good at this.

Third up, don't insult MLP, it's clearly way beyond you.

Fourth up, you do know you can read games before deciding you don't want to replace into them, right?

[kuribo]

1) I'm not being a douche. I'm just being kuribo. You asked for content, you got it. It's not my fault you didn't want to provide any of that after I came into the game.

2) Never said I was

3) YOU'RE PRESUMABLY A GROWN FUCKING MAN THAT WATCHES A GIRL'S SHOW ABOUT MAGIC FUCKING HORSIES

4) Replaced in as a favor to SpySpy, but it doesn't matter, since I always cold-replace anyway.

[2birds1stone]

You know, you sound a lot more reasonable when you cut down on the raging.

As I said, before I got drawn into this argument, I'll look at what you have to say in my lunchbreak.

Currently, all I see is "come into game, don't post content until asked explicitly, spend most of time raging, and try to hold up town as long as possible while giving scum (probably your partner) a huge fucking smokescreen argument to hide behind". Maybe, when I'm not being forcibly reminded of EM, I'll see things differently.

[Psyche]

2b is town. No disordered rage-composed attack will change that.

Anyhow — My turn!

[2birds1stone]

Okay, dude, your huge wall about how I'm eitehr stupid or scum... it's wacked.

Totally, totally, wacked.

It's full of out-of-context and misrepresented quotes.

2b1s could have made a scumslip by trying to link himself to me using incorrect information.

I doubt it. I do dislike his fetish for not answering questions that actually matter.

unvote
Vote: 2b1s

What about the meta thing? You're picking on comments I made in flippiant posts, but if you want a serious answer, I don't think you need to know someone's scum meta to know their town meta or vice versa.

OotN, you tried to cast doubt on my towniness based on a flippiant post from me.

That trips my scumdar, hard.

This game is already awesome.

Staeg for town (he actually cares about the questions he's asking, this is generally a town trait)
OotN for scum, he knows I'm flippiant but still tries to push me for it.

Psyche is null.

Goodnight guys.

You, Kuribo, tried to call this a 180 by claiming that the 'trips my scumdar, hard' referred to Staeg.

AND YOU THOUGHT I WOULDN'T NOTICE.

Nice work.

Anyway, you then go on to criticise me for recognising that I was wrong about Om. Oh, and to make it better, you try to make it sound like I'd been tunneling for ages. Dude, a four-page tunnel is nothing, you should know that.

Then you claim I'm rolefishing. I guess you actually believe rolefishing works, and assuming it does for a second, you honestly believe that my post would compell a vig to claim.

You attack me again for acknowledging that I was wrong, because nothing pads out a case more than repeating points.

Then, and this is where it gets hilarious, you try to call me out onn a 180. It is perfectly normal for townies to re-evaluate their position after a day ends, because, if you didn't notice, the dead person flips, which gives quite a lot of information to a player who's actually reading a game. You also seem to ignore the fact that it's must-lynch nominations, and that there aren't that many valid people to vote for.

You then counjure up out of nowhere the idea that I'm above self-voting/hammering.

Then, you pick on pedantics about the definition of lurking. Wouldn't 'posting highly infrequently' be an adequate definition? You can still do this and post content, as the isos of kassidin from other games show.

Basically, kuribo, your case is crap and I look forward to lynching you tomorrow.

[SpyreX]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 4

Om of the Nom

- 2 - Psyche, 2birds1stone - (L-2)

Players not voting: Kamikrazy, Om of the Nom, Prolapsed Brain, Staeg

[kuribo]

You, Kuribo, tried to call this a 180 by claiming that the 'trips my scumdar, hard' referred to Staeg.

Who did it refer to then?

[kuribo]

Basically, kuribo, your case is crap and I look forward to lynching you tomorrow.

Hey numbnuts, I've only been mislynched twice in five years.

You're no CKD, and you're no GreyICE, so don't bother trying.

[2birds1stone]

Okay, kuribo, because you're not into the whole 'reading comprehension' thing, I'll isolate the two lines from the post which I quoted.

OotN, you tried to cast doubt on my towniness based on a flippiant post from me.

That trips my scumdar, hard.

Keyword (or 'keyacronym' if you want) here is 'OotN'.

Now, I want you to guess who in this game as a name with those initials.

Kuribo, I'm serious about you being scum. You've got experience, judging by your join date, far more experience than I do, and your posts are not reflecting that. They're full of holes, as I pointed out, and they honestly look like an attempt at throwing confusion into the game after you realised stalling it wouldn't work.

[kuribo]

Dude, a four-page tunnel is nothing, you should know that.

A four-page tunnel, when the game is only 9 pages? And when it's smalltown?

It's more than nothing.

[kuribo]

Now, I want you to guess who in this game as a name with those initials.

Kuribo, I'm serious about you being scum. You've got experience, judging by your join date, far more experience than I do, and your posts are not reflecting that. They're full of holes, as I pointed out, and they honestly look like an attempt at throwing confusion into the game after you realised stalling it wouldn't work.

Eh, you threw me off because you were quoting Staeg when you said it.

And I don't need to "throw confusion" into this shithole town.



AND


HOW FUCKING DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF STALLING THE TOWN

I HAVE
NEVER

EVER

STALLED

SHIT

NOT AS TOWN

AND NOT AS SCUM

[2birds1stone]

A four-page tunnel which started in RVS.

Edit -- wow, the stalling thing... that got to you.

How are your first few posts not stalling?

[kuribo]

because who the fuck would need to stall in such a short game where nobody's posting?

[kuribo]

Here, go read a game from my scum meta before you pop off at the mouth about shit you know nothing about:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21301

[Psyche]

Social dynamics. I wish I knew more about that. The entire spirit of the game has changed now that Kuribo has arrived.

Kuribo, you don't seem to really think 2b is scum. You aren't voting for him. Tell me, what's on your mind.

[kuribo]

Kuribo, you don't seem to really think 2b is scum.

see, here's the thing you wouldn't know about me, but it's the truth, and I've mentioned it a few times:

i've been in a slump. i mean a REALLY bad slump, like since January or so

i've pushed alot of fucking mislynches as town, yelled at alot of people. hell, i even told Slandaar that I wanted to take him back in time and gas him at Auschwitz. We were both town, in that game.

My reads? My reads have been ABSOLUTE SHIT lately. In fact, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I figured out who the scum were in LYLO by going opposite what I thought my reads were. I catch myself arguing with idiots instead of scumhunting, I get sidetracked.

Every fucking bone in my body screams that bird is scum. But here's the pisser--- I'm not entirely sure my read is correct, or I'd be voting him.

I don't see him shying away from the microscope as one would expect scum to do. Don't get me wrong, he's dumb as all hell, but I kinda think he--- at the very least--- believes his defense.

You asked to go next, but your posts aren't nearly as bad as his. I wanna read Brain guy first.

I'm trying to decide if either of you three are the type of player to NomGambit.

[kuribo]

Actually, I really REALLY want brain dead, having read his entire ISO in about two seconds.

fucking nomination games, to think I swore I'd never be in another one

[Psyche]

I don't think I'll be in another nomination game again, either.

NomGambit?

I don't have as low an opinion of 2b as you seem to, and nor do I find him scummy. I actually find Staeg a better lynch than him, but you know. Nomination.

I feel like settling for an Om lynch. What do you think of him?