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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 11:10 am

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vote:MOI
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 11:12 am

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Two of your suspects are on the MoI wagon.

Are all three of them likely to be scum?
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 11:13 am

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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 11:15 am

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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 11:18 am

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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 11:22 am

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Nexus wrote:Two of your suspects are on the MoI wagon.

Are all three of them likely to be scum?

its possible. 2 scum teams with an SK. my suspects or anyones suspects are going to be on each and every lynch so avoiding a wagon without suspects on it is futile.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 3:35 pm

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hasdgfas wrote:My role PM? Because seriously, asking me to say anything other than "he's scum defending a town read for townie brownie points when they flip town" to a list of dead scum quotes is not going to happen. Split is the one with the burden of proof. He has to show why that makes me scum. Putting up a list of quotes is useless.

If it's an issue of burden of proof, then you should have asked him why those quotes he posted suggested that SD was defending you instead of buddying (I think it's a reasonable inference from context). Instead, you just stated the opposite opinion with no analysis of your own to back it up. That's the problem I had with your response, which essentially boiled down to "no, you're wrong" and nothing else.

MagnaofIllusion wrote:I’ll pretty much be prod dodging the rest of the Day until lynch. Sorry Deathnote but I have lost all interest in this game.

Major bad vibes here. I know Magna likes playing town more than scum, so being disinterested doesn't reflect well. I'm surprised to see this from him as any alignment, but especially if he is town.

BBmolla wrote:This MoI wagon blows.

Reasoning would be nice here. Last I checked, neither of your claimed scum suspects are on the wagon. Who is scum on the MoI wagon?

Nero Cain wrote:its possible.
2 scum teams with an SK.
my suspects or anyones suspects are going to be on each and every lynch so avoiding a wagon without suspects on it is futile.

Do you have any evidence for this?
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 5:00 pm

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I understand my play has been subpar. I could offer up excuses, but I'd rather fix the problem. Tomorrow is a busy day, expect a post with a reread/analysis and the whole nine yards on Saturday May 5th.

Are there any particular players you want my input on more than others that I can give more detail to? A full wall for each player is excessive.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 7:03 pm

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Kdub wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:My role PM? Because seriously, asking me to say anything other than "he's scum defending a town read for townie brownie points when they flip town" to a list of dead scum quotes is not going to happen. Split is the one with the burden of proof. He has to show why that makes me scum. Putting up a list of quotes is useless.

If it's an issue of burden of proof, then you should have asked him why those quotes he posted suggested that SD was defending you instead of buddying (I think it's a reasonable inference from context). Instead, you just stated the opposite opinion with no analysis of your own to back it up. That's the problem I had with your response, which essentially boiled down to "no, you're wrong" and nothing else.


I responded to him by saying "no you're wrong" because I see no reason to respond otherwise when someone clearly doesn't care enough about their case to actually make one.
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 11:54 pm

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Nexus I assume you think Magna is town.

Why?
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 3:02 am

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Kdub wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:its possible.
2 scum teams with an SK.
my suspects or anyones suspects are going to be on each and every lynch so avoiding a wagon without suspects on it is futile.

Do you have any evidence for this?

not really.

We had two kills last night. I was only saying that it was possible for it to be 3ball but we only have evidence of two.
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 4:58 am

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happy Star Wars day everyone.
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 6:18 am

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MOD – I’ll be LA from today at 4:30pm EDT until Monday AM for my usual weekend family duties.


Look at the completely fascinating lack of push by any of my scum-suspects (although Andrius’ slot gets a pass for being not in the game all day).

Scum is content to just let momentum for either myself or Nexus run out the clock. That makes me think that Nexus is probably Town. If he is scum at least one if not more of his buddies will easily be found in the players who facilitated the following shift (from Mod Vote-counts) –


MagnaofIllusion- WrathChild (L-8)
Nexus- Iecerint, 4nxi3ty, shmugen, BBmolla, Brizingre1 (L-4)


MagnaofIllusion- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle (L-6)
Nexus- Iecerint, shmugen, BBmolla, Brizingre1 (L-5)


MagnaofIllusion- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle, Slandaar, shmugen (L-4)
Nexus- Iecerint, BBmolla, Brizingre1 (L-6)


Again my suspects for scum are (removing Nexus for the moment based on the total lack of passion and activity in thread) – Iec, Andrius’s slot, Anxiety, Split, Shmugen, Briz (or his slot if he is replacing)

Anxiety, Shmugen, and Split have all either moved to me (Split) or away from Nexus.
Iec and Briz are parked on Nexus all day.
Andrius’s slot is V/LA.

The nice spread between these suspects reinforces my “Nexus and MoI” are both Town. Scum are just happily sitting back and letting the impending deadline force Town to wagon to ‘assure’ a lynch.

VOTE: Shmugen. I’ll happily wagon the most viable of my scum suspects at this point.

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On a side note those players expressing that my was anti-Town / suspect / scummy without voting for me are also possible suspects. This group includes Kdub (at ). Very little reason to reinforce the wagon if you don’t want to actually commit a vote to it.

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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 8:11 am

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unvote, vote: shmugen
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 9:27 am

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It's a catchy chorus. However, you've misinterpreted it. This last one is a declaration that there will be content tomorrow, good content. The first was 'Anyone want to talk?' and the second reads as stated.

I'll do a partial claim at this point in the form of a request, as I'll be somewhat away all night and don't want anyone surprised. I am hated, so kindly cap the votes on me to 7 if you want my fullclaim.
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 9:46 am

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VOTE: Shmugen

Hopping on the bandwagon.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 9:47 am

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Vote Count
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- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)
MagnaofIllusion
- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle, Slandaar, shmugen, NeroCain (L-3)
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- Iecerint, Brizingre1 (L-7)
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- Nexus, MagnaofIllusion, 4nxi3ty, BBmolla (L-5)

With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch


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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 10:55 am

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guys, i am truly sorry, work problems came up and someone got laid off..
i have to pick up the slack and that means i won't have time for mafia until they can get someone else to help out over here..
unfortunately i will probably have very limitted access for the next 1 - 2 weeks...
if you can live with that i'll try and post when i can, but i don't really think it's fair to everyone else...
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 4:39 pm

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OK, can someone please explain to me why players like Nexus and drmyshotgun can lurk and sheep wagons all day while providing no analysis, yet BB can do the same and get away with it? I really don't feel like rehashing all the reasons he is scum, but the lack of interest in him as a suspect relative to certain other players is unsettling.

Shmugen is my high on my suspect list as well, so I would be willing to support that wagon if it is the best viable one. I am somewhat less willing to support a MoI lynch because of his ability, and even less willing to support a Nexus lynch because it feels like scum trying to push a lynch on a lurker while letting other lurkers get away with it.
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 6:36 pm

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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 7:49 pm

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Slandaar wrote:Nexus I assume you think Magna is town.

Why?


PoE mainly - I think there are far scummier players in the game. I genuinely struggle to read MoI though

BBmolla wrote:VOTE: Shmugen

Hopping on the bandwagon.


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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 9:15 pm

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Yea, I think MoI should go.
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 9:55 pm

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drmyshotgun wrote:Yea, I think MoI should go.
VOTE: MoI


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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2012 11:01 pm

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How am I not useful?
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 1:27 am

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Nexus wrote:
PoE mainly - I think there are far scummier players in the game. I genuinely struggle to read MoI though

Who?

Why?
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