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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:03 pm

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I considered the possibilities and decided that he probably wasn't faking it. Also, by "off", I mean exactly that, and mastin's suspicion of you was illogical.
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:04 pm

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Pfff.. buncha bullshit Junpei. I'm just posting the goofy mood I'm in. It'd be scummier if I maintained the same detached monotone all game. Like, well, you.
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:06 pm

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Junpei wrote:By the way I should add that what makes Kublai especially suspect on this page is his complete personality change; to me his posting looks like he's trying too hard to think I'm scum and that Mastin isn't. Nothing feels genuine here.

*brain explodes*
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:07 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Junpei wrote:By the way I should add that what makes Kublai especially suspect on this page is his complete personality change; to me his posting looks like he's trying too hard to think I'm scum and that Mastin isn't. Nothing feels genuine here.

*brain explodes*

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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:10 pm

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@DeasVail- *shrug* mastin2's suspicion of me was completely expectedand is logical for mastin2 from his own crazed internal logic.
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:17 pm

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Kublai Khan wrote:Pfff.. buncha bullshit Junpei. I'm just posting the goofy mood I'm in. It'd be scummier if I maintained the same detached monotone all game. Like, well, you.


This is good.

People should read that.

Why hasn't Junpei been lynched yet?
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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:18 pm

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Did Benmage seriously forgot of Rack?
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:22 pm

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Junpei wrote:
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Junpei wrote:By the way I should add that what makes Kublai especially suspect on this page is his complete personality change; to me his posting looks like he's trying too hard to think I'm scum and that Mastin isn't. Nothing feels genuine here.

*brain explodes*

Elaborate?

I don't follow you. Could you demonstrate what you're talking about?
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:30 pm

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StrangerCoug: Sure thing, allow me to preface with the idea that I find Kublai to be a mature and rational person and I couldn't find any craziness in his ISO. Nor could I find much suspicion of me at all, save for he doesn't like how my passionate arguments a long time ago.


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Junpei wrote:Yeah, that's pretty suspicious of Benmage. His ISO is also pretty poor. I'll take his vote as a bus or maybe opposite scum team.

What? I'll argue well into the post-game that benmage's active lurking of "uh, I haven't read, but all catch-up" is scummy as balls. But straight-up forgetting who the Day 1 lynch is? How the hell are you trying to paint that as scummy? Scum don't forget who got lynched.

Benmage joins drmyshotgun in the "town, but useless" category. (Also, I should mention that I'm thoroughly insulted that benmage compared himself to me.)

Junpei is in the scumbox.

I am now a scum-read after finding Benmage scummy for reason X. I explained that I did not find him scummy for reason X, but reason Y, and he did not comment.
Kublai Khan wrote:Also, the mastin2 wagon is crap. He's posted dumb cases, but he hasn't acted scummy.

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P.Edit - Yeah, you're scum, Junpei. Not much doubt now.

Except to say that there is now no doubt about me being scum (yet no vote), and he decides to attack the mastin wagon which is a direct counter to me.
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LOL! Keep digging.

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Then somehow digs OMGUS out of my 1517 (maybe it's just me, but I certainly wasn't attacking him on virtue of him attacking me, and even if i was I don't see how you can get towncred from that) and votes me (why now and not before, I don't know). Also has yet to comment on why I am scum.

Seems to be stretching to a large degree to not get Mastin lynched, yet get me lynched. It's so blatant that the connection to Mastin (if Kublai is scum) could certainly be faked, but this isn't a rational thought process by Kublai and I don't have any irrational lens to look through here because he hasn't been irrational this game, he's been quite rational.
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:55 pm

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What was reason Y again?
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:56 pm

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drmyshotgun wrote:Did Benmage seriously forgot of Rack?

Yeah :oops: :oops: :oops: I pulled an old draft list to try and grasp some of this game. Had him under slightscum...... :eek: :eek: Anywhose.... :mrgreen:
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 12:57 pm

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Benmage wrote:What was reason Y again?

I think that you were faking not knowing Rack was lynched.

pedit: Ugh... when was the draft made?
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 1:13 pm

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Benmage wrote:
drmyshotgun wrote:Did Benmage seriously forgot of Rack?

Yeah :oops: :oops: :oops: I pulled an old draft list to try and grasp some of this game. Had him under slightscum...... :eek: :eek: Anywhose.... :mrgreen:


For my future reference

The above sounds very fake.
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 1:15 pm

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Junpei wrote:
Benmage wrote:What was reason Y again?

I think that you were faking not knowing Rack was lynched.

pedit: Ugh... when was the draft made?

April 16 735 pm:

Town:
Benmage
AH
KK
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Jason
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Mini-Lib
Fire
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Mastin2
Vijay
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Junpei
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Slight town
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Slight scum
Pine
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 1:28 pm

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Benmage wrote:Had him under
slightscum..

Benmage wrote:
Junpei wrote:
Benmage wrote:What was reason Y again?

I think that you were faking not knowing Rack was lynched.

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Slight town
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Slight scum

Pine
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Scum

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shotty

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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 1:35 pm

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lol

I'm going to try trying again soon, since it's Saturday and all. I'm sorry for being such a drag so far. :S
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 1:39 pm

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I couldnt... old ass gut/early reads.. note the date, long before the flip.
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 1:41 pm

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Oh having him underscum... Lol idno, missremembered when I made that first post yeesh.
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 2:12 pm

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Is Benmage flailing?
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 2:26 pm

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Do you know what flailing means?
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 2:46 pm

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Saw it used coupla times, but not exactly.
Tell me and I shall use it in correct way next time.
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 4:33 pm

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Benmage has now upped himself to my #3 scum pick. You're not unlike Mastin was with the number of supposed scum.
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 5:17 pm

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Hey look! I'm buzzed and there's a load of happy horseshit in the thread.

Junpei wrote:StrangerCoug: Sure thing, allow me to preface with the idea that I find Kublai to be a mature and rational person and I couldn't find any craziness in his ISO. Nor could I find much suspicion of me at all, save for he doesn't like how my passionate arguments a long time ago.

Completely irrelevant argument. I don't have to have a long history of finding you scummy to read something you did and decide it's scummy.

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Junpei wrote:Yeah, that's pretty suspicious of Benmage. His ISO is also pretty poor. I'll take his vote as a bus or maybe opposite scum team.

What? I'll argue well into the post-game that benmage's active lurking of "uh, I haven't read, but all catch-up" is scummy as balls. But straight-up forgetting who the Day 1 lynch is? How the hell are you trying to paint that as scummy? Scum don't forget who got lynched.

Benmage joins drmyshotgun in the "town, but useless" category. (Also, I should mention that I'm thoroughly insulted that benmage compared himself to me.)

Junpei is in the scumbox.

I am now a scum-read after finding Benmage scummy for reason X. I explained that I did not find him scummy for reason X, but reason Y, and he did not comment.

What the fuck is this "reason X & reason Y" bullshit? Like they were legitimate reasons or seomthing. Reasons Y or X or Z was that it was "suspicious" that Benmage didn't remember that rack was dead. Junpei never said he thought Benmage was faking. Just the mere idea of Benmage not remembering the Day 1 lynch was "suspicious". The other reason is what? "His ISO is pretty poor"? Get the fuck out. Vagueness is not a reason, it's a cover.

Kublai Khan wrote:Also, the mastin2 wagon is crap. He's posted dumb cases, but he hasn't acted scummy.

Mod: Votecount please


P.Edit - Yeah, you're scum, Junpei. Not much doubt now.

Except to say that there is now no doubt about me being scum (yet no vote), and he decides to attack the mastin wagon which is a direct counter to me.

WTF? Your case is to point out how amazingly hyper-aware I am of the vote count and who the major wagons are on while quoting me asking for the mod to post a votecount. That's some brilliant shit, Sherlock.

The not much doubt comes from the fact that you are now accusing Benmage of faking confusion for towncred. Which is bullshit because if you had thought Benmage was faking at the time you would have replied with something along the lines of "rack is dead, as if you didn't know, you faker". But you didn't. That is ex post facto "scumhunting" which is something scum do.

Kublai Khan wrote:Are... are you trying to OMGUS me for towncred?

LOL! Keep digging.

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Then somehow digs OMGUS out of my 1517 (maybe it's just me, but I certainly wasn't attacking him on virtue of him attacking me, and even if i was I don't see how you can get towncred from that) and votes me (why now and not before, I don't know). Also has yet to comment on why I am scum.

Nice job of only quoting me saying OMGUS to nothing so you can make it look like it's a wild accusation.

You have a vote on mastin2. You are accusing me of voting for you for the sole reason of saving mastin2. And now you're denying that you were not trying to imply that I'm scum-buddies with mastin2? Buuulllllshiiiiiiit.

Let me explain something to you. I would neeeever, eeeeeever stick my neck out for mastin2. If we were scum together I would bus the fuck out of him and him me and whoever survived would look townie as fuck. Go read 132- Desert Mafia. That bastard got everyone to believe that there was no way we were won the same side then went and got himself lynched.

I know it's a meta WIFOM argument, but there's no other way to explain it. Pine was in that game as well and he'll vouch for how well that move would have worked in this game.

My reads of mastin2-town, Benmage-town, and Junpei-scum are completely independent because I'm not a blowhard who thinks he can scumhunt on connections and call out entire bullshit scumteams based on perceived connections. I lynch scum, then another scum, then another scum, and then I win the game for town.

Seems to be stretching to a large degree to not get Mastin lynched, yet get me lynched. It's so blatant that the connection to Mastin (if Kublai is scum) could certainly be faked, but this isn't a rational thought process by Kublai and I don't have any irrational lens to look through here because he hasn't been irrational this game, he's been quite rational.

This bullshit of "Khan is irrational. Khan's personality changed." needs to stop. None of those are scumtells in even the slightest sense. It's just psychobabble buzzwords.
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 5:22 pm

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Sigh, I thought Kublai Khan was going to be fun to play with, but he's not acting much more outstanding than all the others on this site who resort to emotional explicit attacking. I'll try to think of a concise way to respond to that post, I don't want make quote posts in response to quote posts in response to quote posts.
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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 5:28 pm

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Suit yourself. Sorry for all the cussing, but the cervesas are stopping me from self-censoring right now. I stand by my reasoning though abnd nonw of that was "emotional".
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