D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[Slandaar]

OK, can someone please explain to me why players like Nexus and drmyshotgun can lurk and sheep wagons all day while providing no analysis, yet BB can do the same and get away with it?

BB posts lots of filler to look like hes being useful

[DeathNote]

~Seanald replaces Andrius. Thanks Seanald!~

[Shmugen]

Unvote

It appears my promise of 'good' content may have been an exaggeration. I forgot how long a proper reread takes in a large theme, especially with the quantity of replacements. Being in a game from the beginning makes things much easier to read. I did not get very far, and understand if people wish to kill me for it as time is running low and I have run afoul of site meta a few times. If anyone has been here, done this, and knows how to get pumped about a game again when things feel low, please let me know.

My vote had been on Nexus, and occasionally Magna. After rereading to approximately a week after Easter, I'm more interested in Iec, BBMolla, and Nero Cain. We could lynch a ton of people just for lurking, of course. For now, I'm going to VOTE: Nero Cain and hopefully make a case soon. Unfortunately, I'm somewhat busy this upcoming week and don't want to leave people hanging until deadline. I will hopefully have a good chunk of time on the 7th and 8th to make this post what it should have been.

As a reminder, I am hated. The vote counts are not reflecting this. If the intention is to lynch me, be careful with the voting so I can claim.

[Kdub]

BBMolla is at least attempting to look useful.

BB posts lots of filler to look like hes being useful

Also known as scum trying to blend in. Let's lynch him.

[4nxi3ty]

I am hated, so kindly cap the votes on me to 7 if you want my fullclaim.

As a reminder, I am hated. The vote counts are not reflecting this.

AtEish? I don't see anybody hatin you, there are several who said you might be scum. Regardless of alighnments, I find your posts to be a breath of fresh air in this game. Those quotes seems like your trying to get others to feel bad for you and vote someone else.

[Slandaar]

OK Town

Do not weaken resolve now. This Magna lynch is happening.

I am town and will

never

view Magna as town.

For those in the dark;

This is why Magna is scum

Points 1 and 2 are the damning ones. Point 4 is also interesting. If you do not realise how BS Magnas push on me for 'lurking' was, go and reread.
Read that post, read it all. Reread the thread if needed. Then tell me Magna is town.

Does anyone still think Magna is town??? if you do, you step up now and explain it.

Magna cannot explain his SD read, is it a coincidence Magnas likely buddy Ooba (will get to in a sec) is on the team that kills SD? (this is an assumption but very likely)
No. Magna has every incentive to kill SD, after a day where PV and I flip town, he kills syndrome thats THREE town he was wrong on, so why not kill SD to show he was right on someone? restore a bit of belief AND he cant exactly go after SD who he thought is town on day 2 can he?. He was wrong SD was scum

BUT

Magna thought SD was town because Magna is scum and knew SD is not on his team. The idea stands, Magnas team killed SD this fits together perfectly.

Ooba and Magna, Buddies...
For those STILL in the dark on this;

This.

Oh, so you eagerly await Wrath’s analysis of the posts while you have given us a Vote and this? Why exactly aren’t you providing analysis and scum-hunting?

Magna showing suspicion towards ooba #1.

Ooba lurking does not give me happy thoughts. Low content ooba is generally scum ooba. I need to review his activity in the archive …

Magna showing suspicion towards ooba #2. Did Magna review? not to my knowledge.

Magna showing MAJOR suspicion towards ooba
And then...
Read the Magna -> Ooba interactions here. Magna unvotes me because of what ooba, says. But Magna based on his previous posts SHOULD suspect ooba. Why does Magna listen to ooba? Why does Magna TRUST SOMEONE HE SHOULD SUSPECT BASED ON HIS COMMENTS? it does not make sense from a town Magna perspective but a scum magna scum ooba? yep.

You still don't believe?

@Slandaar- I'll not lynch BBmolla or WC today,

however I'll let you pick between Shmugen, splitfarvl, or MoI.

Nexus just seems to be your choice for his tunneling on you so far, because his posts are mostly null to me.
Shadow is being replaced, so I'll give the replacer a chance to contribute.

He also votes Andrius later. So PV thinks;
Andrius/Shmugen/Split/

Magna

Syndrome:
Get the scumbag

Magna

(this is the short way of quoting his walls on why Magna is scum)

All three of us,

all three of the confirmed town in this game

suspect Magna. This is not something to take lightly. This is fact.

Magna is suspected BY THE TOWN.

This is not some conspiracy theory, Magna is/was viewed as scum by every confirmed town in this game.

I think its likely this save Magna wagon is a desperate attempt by scum. Nexus/BB/Magna all on one wagon? DO NOT WANT.

We must stand strong

The Magna Lynch must happen

See it through

[Shmugen]

I am hated, so kindly cap the votes on me to 7 if you want my fullclaim.

As a reminder, I am hated. The vote counts are not reflecting this.

AtEish? I don't see anybody hatin you, there are several who said you might be scum. Regardless of alighnments, I find your posts to be a breath of fresh air in this game. Those quotes seems like your trying to get others to feel bad for you and vote someone else.

Hated is my passive ability, it takes one less vote a day to lynch me. This does make me a liability for town later in the game.

@Slandaar: I had wondered if Magna's disinterest stemmed somewhat from him making a large case on you D1 only to have you become confirmed town. Can you number your points in that case you just made?

[Iecerint]

If MoI is town, Iec definitely agrees that he is scum with Ooba.

Iec think the argument against lynching MoI is that his blaster manipulations make him a less ideal early lynch, all things being equal. Of course, this doesn't apply if you don't think they're equal.

With the Hated claim, Shmugen looks like a good blaster target.c

[Shmugen]

I disagree. We should force scum to get rid of me.

Also, Iec, I really hope one of your punishments for failure to do your post restriction is to screw up town/scum, because you've made that 'mistake' a few times now.

[Iecerint]

There are no errors in that post.

[Shmugen]

If Magna is town, he's scum with Ooba?

[4nxi3ty]

Hated is my passive ability, it takes one less vote a day to lynch me. This does make me a liability for town later in the game.

ah k, nvm than.

why vote nero instead of iece or bb?

unvote, vote: Iece

[Shmugen]

As I said, I did not get as far in my reread as I wanted to. I voted Nero because I felt like he had gotten off the hook the most of the three players I mentioned. We shall see what comes up when I actually make a case in a few days.

[Iecerint]

If Magna is

town

scum, he's scum with Ooba?

No PR errors, Iec meant.

[Iecerint]

The Nexus wagon is gone.

Unvote; Vote: MoI

Iec thinks this is L-2, since Shmugen unvoted.

[DeathNote]

Vote Count

BBmolla

- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)

MagnaofIllusion

- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle, Slandaar, NeroCain, Iecerint (L-3)

Nexus

- Brizingre1 (L-8)

shmugen

- Nexus, MagnaofIllusion, BBmolla (L-6)

Iecerint

- 4nxi3ty (L-8)

With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch

~Sent Prods and keeping up the replacement hunt.~

[Kdub]

I disagree. We should force scum to get rid of me.

And how, exactly, is this going to happen when your ability, assuming you are town, is one that scum want to have around in the endgame? You would be an excellent blaster target, and the fact that you didn't agree with that smells like worrying about self-preservation.

Shumgen's claim makes me more inclined to lynch him, but it's really amazing to me how BB is skating by doing even less than Nexus or shotgun, on top of all the other reasons his slot is scummy, yet there is so little interest in him.

If the viable options today are Shmugen or MoI, I would prefer a Shmugen lynch. He is scummier, and I think Magna can potentially buy himself town credit depending on his ability and how he uses it tonight. I will switch to Shmugen in a couple days if things don't change.

But seriously...BB is scum.

[hasdgfas]

I'm more interested in Iec, BBMolla, and Nero Cain. We could lynch a ton of people just for lurking, of course. For now, I'm going to VOTE: Nero Cain and hopefully make a case soon.

Can you least a couple reasons for each of those 3? Doesn't have to be a formal case or anything, but something.

[Shmugen]

Sparknotes version:
Iec: Someone made a point that Iec posts, but doesn't say much. Lurker-ish while trying to not look like one. Would rather lynch one of these than a lurker.

BB: The Yoda claim, while provoked, feels strongly like a distraction. There was apparently a decent scumvibe building on the slot before the tiger attack and other than Kdub (who gets some serious towncred for sticking to his guns for this long) he has dropped off the suspicion list. Blaster immunity also feels more like a scum power than a town one, assuming it isn't directly related to being a jedi.

Nero: To use a fisherman analogy, he was the one who got away. Something feels wrong about him somehow, a quick skim of his ISO leaves me with the impression of a lot of opinion hunting, just enough content to be safe. Poking at people's weak points is a decent scumhunting tactic, but Nero doesn't really follow up on much of it.

@BB: What did you do last night?

[Nero Cain]

As I said, I did not get as far in my reread as I wanted to. I voted Nero because I felt like he had gotten off the hook the most of the three players I mentioned. We shall see what comes up when I actually make a case in a few days.

I think the point was was are you voting for the third on the lise when you have both BB and Iec rated higher.

@BB: What did you do last night?

Shmugen rolefishing again!!!

My grandmother may pass tonight so I might need to go on V/LA here soon but I'll try to keep the mod updated if I have to leave

[Slandaar]

@Slandaar: I had wondered if Magna's disinterest stemmed somewhat from him making a large case on you D1 only to have you become confirmed town. Can you number your points in that case you just made?

I think you missed the link to syndromes case. (noneed to rewrite all that when its already there)

Is this you saying you think Magna is town?

[splitfarvle]

Pretty much the entirety of trying to link dead scum to people is WIFOM. What am I supposed to say when it's "well, SD defended X and Y, so they're his buddies"? I said that I find it more likely that scum will defend people they know aren't scumbuddies.

Just because there is WIFOM doesn't mean you can't analyze something, you just have to think and weigh the likelihoods. Just saying it's WIFOM and hoping that flies doesn't work. What tangible evidence do you have that the links split was finding between dead scum and yourself are not valid in this specific scenario?

My role PM? Because seriously, asking me to say anything other than "he's scum defending a town read for townie brownie points when they flip town" to a list of dead scum quotes is not going to happen. Split is the one with the burden of proof. He has to show why that makes me scum. Putting up a list of quotes is useless.

How is it useless?
1. I showed how SD was attacking confirmed town players, which debunks your thesis that he was most likely distancing from buddies.
2. I showed how SD not only thought your slot was town without saying why, but he attacked others for questioning your alignment.

[drmyshotgun]

VOTE: Magna

[drmyshotgun]

Oh, I'm already voting for him! Sorry!

[Seanald]

shotgun wtf is wrong with you?

Where is Magna to defend against all this? it is alot of heat and I would have thought he would say something by now.

And on the another note. I think I am in love with Slandaar your posts in combination with pictures bring tears of joy to my eyes.

I will be reading through the game more to try and catch up and offer some actual substance soon, but for now my posts will most likely be made of questions and be based off of the current posts.