Open 387: Jungle Republic (Day 6 - ends in a Town Victory)

[Thomith]

so you are not going to let me prove you wrong and show you i am town? ummm...

[Ravel]

Day 5 Vote Count

Chrimi

L-1

(3): BK201, andrew94, Thomith
Fat_Tony (1): Chrimi

Not Voting (2): Fat_Tony, Kassadin

There are 6 players alive, which means it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Plurality lynch is active.

Whoever has the most votes by the deadline will get lynched.
Deadline in

(expired on 2012-05-19 20:36:00)

(May 19, 8:36 PM EDT)

As of Post #1025

[Chrimi]

Well duh, it's either me thomith or Tony.

The reason I went after kass is because he's a troll and I'm sick of him. I'm in some games with him and he's just... such a lurker. It bugs me.

Anyways, I'll go next, just please,

please

do Tony or Thomith first.

[Chrimi]

Knowing if the scum is

good

, then they were on the wagon of their scumbuddy. It

is

possible.

[Chrimi]

Yeah, honestly I can now see Fat Tony as scum.

Bussing...? He was close to dying, so he calls his scumbuddy scum...?

[Chrimi]

I don't like the idea of Thomith hammering Chrimi. It leads me to believe Thomith is actually scum trying to get a Chrimi mislynch. And scum not making the next move may have to do with scum probably being on the wagon.

Damn, my brain is going a mile a minute and I don't really know where I stand with my reads now. I need some time to think this over.
UNVOTE:
For now.

This could also be considered bussing.

Or all three of us are town?

I'm really starting to consider this game isn't over yet. Somebody on their scumbuddy's wagon is the last scum.

UNVOTE:

[Chrimi]

actually chrimi, when om got hammered, i'm pretty sure i wasn't online, as i remember om being at L-2 or something when i left, and i was going to vote him when i get back.

out of fat/chrimi i prefer a chrimi vote, so

VOTE: chrimi

Nice excuse....

[Chrimi]

Alright, so after all of this multi-posting, I'm going to take a rest and actually decide what I'm going to go for. I think everything above is possible, but I would like to take a break and think it through.

God I hate playing mafia while on the road...

[Thomith]

it wasn't an excuse, it was true, and if you are going to call me out as a buddy with someone, at least get your facts right.

[BK201]

Knowing if the scum is

good

, then they were on the wagon of their scumbuddy. It

is

possible.

I don't think Kass is good enough to bus his buddy. Andrew is seer. and if I was maf I would have gone after anybody but OmNoms. For example if I was maf with OmNoms, that would make Chrimi town, and I could have voted for him instead.

It's 5-1 with no nightkill, so we have 4 strikes till were out. As long as Andrew takes me to LyLo town wins.

[BK201]

Sorry. I have to say that everytime I read Thomith, I always think he's scum. It's just a feeling I get (from VM's game XD). As a side note though, you flipped town there right? Just for meta-ing.

@ Asher: my gut has served me very well in the past, as well as my metaing. I know how to use both. I'm not going to be right all the time, but more often than not.

When I bring up Thomith's meta, it's because he's playing fairly similar to that previous game. The fact that he flipped town in that one gives me a gut town read. Also, POE is another way of scumhunting, and something I've been trying to integrate to my skillset.

Regarding pressure, I believe it's you being short-sighted. Well not short-sighted, but more not considering both sides of the coin. Sure pressure can be imposed in the long term by questioning statements made, but why wait for that when you can pressure now? Furthermore, shouldn't early pressure provide you with more ammunition for late pressure as scum crack and flail?

These two posts are soft-defending Thomith.

But why would Tony say that he knew? That's a connection that goes under my too convenient to be scummy cabinet. Like sort of how some people are too scummy to actually be scum, if that makes sense. Tony is null for me atm.

Well I have scumreads that I personally believe are stronger than Tony at the moment.

These two are soft-defending Tony.

I can't decide which is worse.

[BK201]

VOTE: Chrimi

WE HIT TURBULENCE. XD

Placing the RVS on your scum buddy. Not so uncommon.

Also vote hopping isn't a scumtell, as long as you have even slight reasons for each vote, which slandaar seems to have.

But like Slandaar said, scum can fabricate reasons. How do you know all his reasons are genuine?

I'm starting to feel Thomith scum now. A lot of his posts involve him agreeing with Slandaar, yet he tries to distance himself from him by keeping him open as one of his viable lynches. If Slandaar flips town (which he most likely won't) I'm still betting on Thomith scum.

EDIT: Because now I'm trying to show you that I act the same way in all of my games, so 10 pages will be enough to meta me.

EDIT AGAIN: Doesn't make it not a scumtell either.

@v2v: I started playing mafia when I was 12. I just don't learn the fastest :V Plus my birthday is in March (22nd) and I started around August, so there isn't too much time in between.

@Thomith: I am not OMGUS'ing you at all. I think you are the one who is reaching instead of me. You are starting to sound like Slandaar's buttbuddy :V Agreeing with someone a couple of times is fine, but now it's just too much.


My vote currently being on kondi is doing nothing right now.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Slandaar

Also how is not giving examples to make you unable to defend yourself anti-town? If that's true, than you are scum by having a gut read on me which is impossible to defend against.

Note: The above does not mean I am deliberately not giving you examples.

EDIT: Well then Chrimi is scum then isn't he?

Honestly, Chrimi feels like he is defending me because he genuinely thinks I am town, whereas you feel like you are doing it just for the sake of buddying.

This is a strong indicator of OmNoms soft-defending Chrimi.(he was talking to Thomith still btw)

Why are you assuming the read is mafia then?

Because I'm sure that that isn't something you'd say about a town read.

null read can go either way. It still doesn't make me a def. town or def. scum read.

Because it didn't sound like something he'd say if I were a town read. Plus I completely forgot about null reads existing :V

It's not my fault my memory is bad.

You're just biased and are twisting everything I do to make it look scummy.

How would I know whether or not he was actually calling me scum in the first place?

But it wasn't "OMG IM NOT SCUM," it was "So wait, does that mean you think I am scum?"

No, Chrimi is town because his posts feel town motivated.

More soft-defense of Chrimi.

That whole Thomith interaction is too real to be maf v maf. Going to stick by Chrimi first, then Fat_Tony, then Thomith, then Kass.

[Chrimi]

btw, Vijay signed up for this game just to play another game with me.

And holy shit...

Saying this ahead of time:

God damn Om don't buddy me again >.>

Good game guys, Claiming town.

VOTE: Chrimi
Go for Fat and Thomith next. If they flip town, take out BK.

[BK201]

Dang...I was considering giving in to your appeal to emotion(basically felt for ya since u wanted to finally finish a game alive), that's why I went back and looked again, but Om did buddy u hard. Well, gg Chrimi.

[Chrimi]

BK is scum.

Stuff about considering to give in to my appeal... It's a scum saying "Oh I was thinking of unvoting..."...

Anyways, BK, thanks for the game, it was fun. I hope you had fun with Om

The last 2 survivors

must

be Kass and andrew. Kass town, andrew seer, end of game. Lynch in order: Thomith, Fat_Tony, BK.

Thanks for the game guys

[BK201]

Ugh what is this? OOTN sounds like a cornered townie

imo

. Slandaar's pressure is good, but it's coming close to confirmation bias imo. I played with him before and the meta is fairly similar, which is null, but gut gives me a slight town read.

@ Mod: could we get kondi in here please? Thank you.

Thomith, your sig. Best song ever. Regarding the game,

I'm guessing

you're insinuating OOTN - newbscum?

OOTN still is cornered townie lashing out at his attackers. Also, I believe that he was wrong about knowing your meta, but has no space to back down.

Chrimi, I was going to say you would play better if you stopped posting like everybody you talk to is 12. Then I remembered your actually quite close to that age yourself X.X

But why would Tony say that he knew? That's a connection that goes under my too convenient to be scummy cabinet. Like sort of how some people are too scummy to actually be scum, if that makes sense. Tony is

null

for me

atm

.

Well I have scumreads that I

personally

believe are stronger than Tony

at the moment

.

Preview Edit -

BK is scum.

Stuff about considering to give in to my appeal... It's a scum saying "Oh I was thinking of unvoting..."...

Lol you were doing AtE hard mang. and considering we have 4 strikes I was honestly seeing if I could convince myself to vote fat tony or thomith before you. Unfortunately for you Om made you look the worse. I mean what the hell was that chim is at L-1 I better unvote him! Anyways, dw we got this.

When the Sun rises without setting, I'm going to vote Fat_Tony. The bolded+large words are my emphasis.

[Ravel]

Day 5 Vote Count

Chrimi (4)

LYNCH

: BK201, andrew94, Thomith, Chrimi

Not Voting (2): Fat_Tony, Kassadin

There are 6 players alive, which means it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Plurality lynch is active.

Whoever has the most votes by the deadline will get lynched.
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As of Post #1037 - Votes locked

[Ravel]

After a long Day 4, Day 5 went much quicker. An order of lynch was given by a few, even by the one who would get lynched, Chrimi. Was he just putting on a show, or was he one of the good guys?

Chrimi,

Vanilla Townie

, Lynched Day 5

Only 5 remain

[Ravel]

Day 6 has now started.

Day 6 Vote Count

Not Voting (5): andrew94, Thomith, Fat_Tony, BK201, Kassadin

There are 5 players alive, which means it takes 3 votes to lynch.
Plurality Lynch is active.
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(May 20, 5:48 PM EDT)

As of Post #1043

[BK201]

VOTE: Fat_Tony

[andrew94]

i already said im taking kassadin and Bk to LYLO

so (fat tony, Thomith), surrender

vote thomith

[Kassadin]

vote:thomith

[BK201]

VOTE: thomith

[kondi2424]

And that's game.

[drmyshotgun]

Are we allowed to talk?