D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[BBmolla]

@BB: What did you do last night?

Deflect

[Shmugen]

Why? Did you feel threatened by the town, or did you feel like being useless?

[Shmugen]

Sorry, perhaps that was too harsh of me. Did you feel threatened by the town enough that you wanted to make sure you would stay alive? This doesn't jive with your lack of good town play today.

[Nero Cain]

Why are you apologizing to someone you think is scum?

[Shmugen]

To quote the first post of the archived game, '-Limit your cursing please, I am not a fan of blatant rudeness'. What's it to you?

[Nero Cain]

lol that wasn't "rude" at all.

The fact you care about being perceived as nice shows me that you care about your standing among all the other players, a characteristic that I associate with scum play.

[Shmugen]

And the fact that you continue to park your vote on me for my individual posting style tells me you're trying much too hard.

[hasdgfas]

just look at this sequence. Shm is info fishing. I ask him what this has to do with scumhunting. He pretty much says there's no harm in us knowing. Then he's like "we'll if we know then down the road it might be helpful to know" I kinda got the vibe that Shm was a tracker/watcher and wanted to know if BB's actions messed with his info.

This has nothng to do with BB and everything to do with finding Shm scummy for what I felt was a pretty useless question.

Why do you find Shmugens questioning of BB to be so townie?

Because I think it's a completely legitimate question and allows us to have more information about BB to give us more chances to find inconsistencies. He's already claimed.

[BBmolla]

Why? Did you feel threatened by the town, or did you feel like being useless?

Is it confirmed scum can't use blaster?

[Shmugen]

Why? Did you feel threatened by the town, or did you feel like being useless?

Is it confirmed scum can't use blaster?

No, it isn't confirmed, however it's every townie's vested interest to be useful. You have two ways to be useful; you can scumhunt during the day and see what happens when you force someone to target you at night. Why are you doing neither?

[MagnaofIllusion]

I may have to be replaced ... Pming Deathnote now.

[Slandaar]

I think I want to lynch the cow

[MagnaofIllusion]

I’ll keep posting until Deathnote makes a decision about replacement or not.

Oh Wrath why didn’t you re-appear to respond to my post and give your other thoughts after you caught up on work?

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@Magna: I didn't claim hated immediately for two reasons. One, I'd never been hated before and figured mentioning it when a wagon cropped up would be good enough and Two, I didn't want scum to get the wrong impression. Hated VT seems a silly thing in a large theme with no VTs.

This makes no sense. You thought that you would be making yourself a ‘target’ by claiming Hated since a Hated VT makes no sense? A Hated player with a Blastar (Greedo perchance) makes all the sense in the world. I despise the soft-claim here and factually scum really do not like Nightkilling Hated Townies. I would know … I survive to almost endgame as one in Olympus Mafia in a game with no VTs.

Furthermore if you believe this is Multiscum the normal “Hated players are Town” site meta no longer applies.

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My vote is on BB, but I have been consistent in my suspicion of Shmugen and expressed my willingness to vote him. It's not like people are going to just look at my vote and suddenly forget that I had other suspects.

And this response doesn’t say a single thing to suggest my comments regarding your alignment if Shmugen and I are both Town.

You are sitting with your vote parked non-productively on BB. He’s not getting lynched today. You say you have other ‘suspects’ but are not actually voting them.

Scum who thinks we are both possible Town is happy to not move their vote until the last moment.

1. If I get wagonned and lynched before deadline you’ve idled your vote nicely and kept your hands clean. Inaction is scum beneficial. You are doing nothing to move the day forward.
2. If you actually do vote Shmugen at deadline and he flips Town you can say “Well, I preferred a BB lynch but had to make sure we got a lynch on someone” and obsolved yourself of much of the responsibility for your vote.

What is your case on Shmugen BTW. Your own words, if you please.

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I agree with this, and further, I think he's your other buddy. Andrius was the other player I thought might be linked to you due to your mentioning his lurkiness above other lurkers as you did with ooba.

Lulz.

[4nxi3ty]

Additionally, why are you announcing unnecessar V/LA's? You are only off site for about 48 hours and activity prods set in after 72 hours. Are you afraid of being accused of lurking?

insinuating someone is scummy for "not following through on their vla" because "they are afraid of looking like a lurker"...? leap in logic to further cement a mislynch is what that comment says to me.

I will support a WC, Iece, or Shmugen lynch today. Something about shmugen's hated claim is making me pause about that lynch yet I still prefer it over a MoI lynch.

unvote, vote: wrath

[Shmugen]

@Magna: I didn't claim hated immediately for two reasons. One, I'd never been hated before and figured mentioning it when a wagon cropped up would be good enough and Two, I didn't want scum to get the wrong impression. Hated VT seems a silly thing in a large theme with no VTs.

This makes no sense. You thought that you would be making yourself a ‘target’ by claiming Hated since a Hated VT makes no sense? A Hated player with a Blastar (Greedo perchance) makes all the sense in the world. I despise the soft-claim here and factually scum really do not like Nightkilling Hated Townies. I would know … I survive to almost endgame as one in Olympus Mafia in a game with no VTs.

Furthermore if you believe this is Multiscum the normal “Hated players are Town” site meta no longer applies.

I view VT as the base level of power for a game. If you have a disadvantage, Hated, you would have an advantage as well to balance it. While I have seen hated as the sole ability in the mafia game you can buy at your local board game shop, I had not heard of its use here on site. I was apparently wrong.

Secondly, and I think I've mentioned this in every game I've ever been in, I do not subscribe to or have a working knowledge of site meta.

I can hardclaim if you'd like, as I am looking more and more like the lynch today, but I don't think you'll believe me.

[hasdgfas]

I can hardclaim if you'd like, as I am looking more and more like the lynch today, but I don't think you'll believe me.

Ok. Here's my problem with this. If you're town, why are you pre-justifying your claim? If you know it's a real claim, you should just claim it. Going "I don't think you'll believe me" seems like "trying to look town" to me.

[Shmugen]

I'm not trying to sound piteous, Cow. You will see what I mean when it's claim time.

[hasdgfas]

I'm not trying to sound piteous, Cow. You will see what I mean when it's claim time.

You may not be trying to, but it's coming across that way.

[Shmugen]

What am I at, L-2 in my hated state? I'll claim later tonight.

[BBmolla]

Why? Did you feel threatened by the town, or did you feel like being useless?

Is it confirmed scum can't use blaster?

No, it isn't confirmed, however it's every townie's vested interest to be useful. You have two ways to be useful; you can scumhunt during the day and see what happens when you force someone to target you at night. Why are you doing neither?

Because people don't listen to me. Like the shitty MoI wagon, that should never have happened.

Also I find redirecting to be rather anti town in general. Redirecting a Track to myself or some shit would blow.

[Nero Cain]

What am I at, L-2 in my hated state? I'll claim later tonight.

Why aren't you claiming now?

[Shmugen]

I only had a ten minute break at work, and then wanted to see if anyone had any objections.

I am Senator Palpatine, Hated Watcher. I watched Slandaar N1, no one visited him that I could tell.

[hasdgfas]

Do you have any sort of flavor behind that?

[brizingre1]

/I'm still here
Genuine apologies, if I haven't caught up with this game by the end of tomorrow, I'll replace out.

[Shmugen]

Only the name of the ability, Senator's Eye.