NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[PeregrineV]

Vote Count 2-7

(as of Post 1674)

Pine (7)

- Maxous, scooby, Kublai Kahn, Benmage, The Mini-Librarian, drmyshotgun, DeasVail

Junpei (4)

- mastin2, HezLucky, Lady Lambdadelta, Nero Cain

mastin2 (3)

- Pine, Junpei, Code_X

The Mini-Librarian (2)

- StrangerCoug, Psyche

redFF (1)

- drmyshottyizsik

Firestarter (1)

- redFF

Not Voting (3)

- Firestarter, FakeGod, kdowns

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch

EXTENDING TO MONDAY, MAY 14, 2012 3 pm CST

Deadline:

Thursday, May 11, 2012 3pm CST

Replacing:

Firestarter
Pine

Prods:

None

V/LAs:

Mastin May 9

[Psyche]

I see Nero's case on me. Will respond to it tomorrow game day (god willing) as it will just clog up the thread today.

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My read on Pine is quite...conjectural.

Can you clarify this please?

Noun:
An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

[Nero Cain]

I see Nero's case on me. Will respond to it tomorrow game day (god willing) as it will just clog up the thread today.

So you want to have a whole night phase before you respond to my case when A) I could die during the night and (most likely) the heat on your slot would die as well and B) assuming that you are scum then you'll get help from your buddies in crafting a defense.

[StrangerCoug]

SC:

If you thought TML was implying a cop innocent on LLD, why did you bring it up?

You cannot, by definition, imply something stated outright. By stating you "have a cop inno" on a player, you claim cop with an innocent result. That's about as plain as it gets.

@SC:

Let's see. That post had an emoticon, the next words after that were "

seriously though

" and I finished out the post by giving reasons completely seperate from me being a "cop" why I thought LLD was town.

Yep, totally a serious claim.

That my sense of humor is shot is conceded, but joking around claiming you are a certain role in a Mafia game is like joking around claiming you have a bomb at an airport. You cannot do either without serious repercussions. I stand by my vote, no matter how unpopular.

DV's is the scummiest hop so far. Not that he hopped, but how he did it.
It reminds me so much of my bandwagoning on D1 mislynches. A very sparse — the minimum for the ambitious scum, which makes me think gunny is town — justification for the wagon to show that it makes you uneasy and to avoid commitment...

Eh.

That's a good point to bring up, especially when I interpreted his vote as sheeping me despite him getting a chance to comment about the claim first.

His "LLD is town since unflipped Nero is attacking her" is just pathetic.

Quoted for truth.

I see Nero's case on me. Will respond to it tomorrow game day (god willing) as it will just clog up the thread today.

Why should we let you live that long?

[StrangerCoug]

EBWOP: Scatch the response to Psyche; I misinterpreted DeasVail as Nero Cain.

[Psyche]

Oh. QQ

[Nero Cain]

????????????????

[Junpei]

Ugh, Pine replacing out? I still prefer to lynch Mastin, I don't know what to do to convince people though.

[Psyche]

unvote; vote pine

[drmyshotgun]

Yeah, we should just lynch Pine and save the mod the trouble of getting a replacement.

[The Mini-Librarian]

@Nero: I will respond to the case first thing tomorrow, regardless if you're alive or not. I promise this to everyone in the game. I can't really dissuade you about that second point though...

Oh fuck it. Here we go.

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First off, define scumhunting for me.

And then show me how in the world lynching my scumread isn't scumhunting.

Cause that's what I did day 1. I gave my opinions about the other players when I felt like it was appropriate. But seriously, you can't say I'm not scumhunting when I went after rack like that.

How is my supposed lack of scumhunting different from anyone else in this game? LLD? Benmage? Pine?

Am I right in saying that you want me dead for a) a "lack of scumhunting" and b) I put a vote on you that you think is bad?

I'm not going to go super in depth with my reads this game because this thread is already fucking huge, I have way too many null reads for my liking and frankly there hasn't been the need to do so.

As for the shottyizsik read: His first post struck me as townish. That's why I called him town. That changed over time for reasons I mentioned earlier.

[Junpei]

Librarian... he means that you aren't actively scumhunting broadly. I don't know if it's true or not, but I believe Nero means that you aren't investigating everyone actively.

[The Mini-Librarian]

HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME SCUM?

I'm going to focus on two or three people a day, even more so in a large game like this.

[Benmage]

Yeah, we should just lynch Pine and save the mod the trouble of getting a replacement.

[Junpei]

HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME SCUM?

I'm going to focus on two or three people a day, even more so in a large game like this.

If you focus on two or three people you're going to find people are scum. You have to investigate everyone in order to get good reads so that you have a feel for how everyone is playing. You can find reason to call everyone scum, so you need to investigate everyone.

It is scummy because town should generally understand this and want to make sure that they aren't just focusing on town players: They want to find scum and so they look at every suspect, not ruling anyone out.

[Nero Cain]

@Mini-you didn't really call anyone BUT rack scum yesterday.

The closest thing is saying that Mac and Max bothers you. That scooby hasn't "improved his stature in my eyes"

And day 2 you didn't even call anyone scum, you just voted them.

flail a bit. Hunting a few specific people looks like scum trying to play it safe.

[FakeGod]

what the

That Pine wagon wasn't there before.... I will go read.

Also, it seemed that mastin wagon seems meta-based.

[kdowns]

VOTE: Pine

Yep Pretty confident in this just from the ISO.

[DeasVail]

I haven't read up, but we need a claim from Pine before lynching him, which is a problem if PV can't get a replacement before deadline.

If I was to go for anyone else, it would probably be Kdowns, but I'll need to put some thought in before deciding on anyone else to go for.

[Code_X]

kdowns replaced Macros right? Maybe we should see if Mastin's theory is correct.

Unvote
Vote: KDowns

[StrangerCoug]

kdowns replaced Macros right? Maybe we should see if Mastin's theory is correct.

Unvote
Vote: KDowns

I'm sorry. It's four in the morning and my brain isn't awake yet. What theory?

[Code_X]

Post 1253

[Kublai Khan]

VOTE: Pine

Yep Pretty confident in this just from the ISO.

You just replaced into another game I'm in. Could we get some full reads from you in this game?

[DeasVail]

Unvote: Pine

Vote: Kdowns

[Kublai Khan]

I am 100% for a deadline lynch of Pine, scooby, FakeGod, Firestarter, or kdowns. In that order of scummyness, though the last 3 are random. The deadwood in this game is ridiculous.
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I think StrangerCoug is pushing the joke-claiming angle too strongly. Next time read the whole post and not just the "I claim cop" part.

@The Mini-Librarian: Don't make stupid jokes.
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Ugh, Pine replacing out? I still prefer to lynch Mastin, I don't know what to do to convince people though.

I asked you to post your case a while back. You never did. So quityerbitching.