TM2012 - Closed Normal(Over!)

[Mastermind of Sin]

Welp, didn't know the game started. That sucks, but to hell with rereading a whole 7 pages. I'll just read Glork's last post...

...and Glork is doin' his thing. His description of Haylen and GreyIce's play so far seems pretty suspicious, assuming it went down like he said. I guess we'll see how it goes.

[Glork]

Actually.

Relevant.

Haylen, please link to me the last three games in which you've been scum.

[GreyICE]

Actually glork, my team asked me to be nice and not rage out at y'all.

If I need to throw in a few fucking swear words to suit my meta I'll do the deed. But I'm not just fucking myself here if I get lynched or ignored, you know what I mean?

Yeah, you're actually seeing what happens when I don't replace into a slot previously occupied by lurkflakemcscummerson and thus actually care.

[Glork]

Fair enough.

[Glork]

That said, can you please explain how you expect me to believe your "I read Haylen in one game, therefore I can read her like a book" argument?

[CooLDoG]

No cooldog. GreyIce's strategy was great to get the game going. Point is, we have nothing to start off with first: only out of game information. So thats a great way to create in game information (reactions, wagons, etc).

Saying only irrelevant out of game information comes out of initially utilizing out of game information is like saying all information that comes out of RVS is random and unreliable.

We are going to have to agree to disagree. I put little to no stock in meta because in the past it hasn't worked. It is not a scum tell to use meta, but it is simply not the most effective way to scum hunt in my opinion.

[UberNinja]

CoolDog's big post about me + vote is completely disingenuous and isn't saying anything new.

He's parroting and hoping that nobody notices he's scum with Haylen. Too bad, bro. You're scum.

[hasdgfas]

Haylen(4): UberNinja, GreyICE, DeltaWave, iamausername
Captain Murasa(2): PeregrineV, Porochaz
Uberninja(2): Haylen, CooLDoG
GreyICE(1): Captain Murasa
Slaxx(1): jasonT1981
PeregrineV(1): Glork

Not Voting: Mastermind of Sin, Slaxx

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is May 21.

[Captain Murasa]

GreyICE's persistence with his pushing of his meta attack is starting to make me lean towards him being town. Jason is still making posts full of nothing though.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: JasonT

Also a lot of this went in and out of my head so I need to reread again. Man, I need to pay more attention :P

[Glork]

GreyICE's persistence with his pushing of his meta attack is starting to make me lean towards him being town. Jason is still making posts full of nothing though.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: JasonT

Also a lot of this went in and out of my head so I need to reread again. Man, I need to pay more attention

:bigredx:

[GreyICE]

That said, can you please explain how you expect me to believe your "I read Haylen in one game, therefore I can read her like a book" argument?

Look, Glork, lets ignore my personal skill. You've been town in games with me, you've seen the targets I pick to attack, you can judge them on your own.

Post 72 is a living disaster. A complete, living disaster. With bells and whistles and its own fucking parade.

You also seem to have missed the salient point, this post:

Also, Grey, you've played with me twice before, both times I was town, both times you tried to lynch me. You cannot read me like an open book.

Why the hell would she attempt to discredit me by saying I can't read her because of games where I let the town mislynch her? It is, at best, the sort of mistake that's asinine to make (given that Buffy mafia was recent enough that Haylen still has a thread in MD about it on the front page, and the smoke has barely settled). In fact I reminded her in Buffy mafia that I was scum in Calculus mafia when she compared my play in the two games.

I dunno. Maybe Haylen is like that guy in memento and she has tattoos all over her body to remind her about past games and I just wasn't memorable enough to earn tattoo ink. But if she's not, then I really got nothing on why she'd forget that, Glork.

At least that PV vote is a real thing, kinda.

[GreyICE]

Also
MoI wishes to remind Haylen
That her shitfit about quick lynches in Mafia Discussion
Was about two quicklynches on a Mafia Goon and a Serial Killer day 1 and 2.
He feels the pattern is likely to continue.

MoI:, on the position shifts:

Position 1) GreyICE is scum! Who can't read me
Position 2) GreyICE is town! But really really stupid. Lemme scumplain about site meta
Position 3) There are at least two scum on my wagon!

MoI is curious why Jason thinks I'm town after buffy mafia. In buffy mafia I was one of the prime movers on a wagon he believed to be on town, and he pushed me hard as scum. Here he thinks the wagon is on town - but he has a strong town read on me? I find it very odd. Now granted I was scum in Buffy mafia so I can't really complain that he read me incorrectly (he read me very correctly and I night killed him for it) but, well... it does seem odd.

A few more reads, but I'm not willing to do anything about them yet~

[GreyICE]

Welp, didn't know the game started. That sucks, but to hell with rereading a whole 7 pages. I'll just read Glork's last post...

...and Glork is doin' his thing. His description of Haylen and GreyIce's play so far seems pretty suspicious, assuming it went down like he said. I guess we'll see how it goes.

We'd like rather more content than that.

[Captain Murasa]

Skimming/reading through ISO's:
CooLDoG is nullish atm.
DeltaWave is lurkerscum.
Glork is obv. town
Grey is null and could go either way right now.
Haylen is still town.
I don't really get why people are calling IAAU town. Nothing interesting seems to be standing out from him. Currently null.
JasonT is scum.
MoS needs to post a lot more. What about Glork's description of Haylen and Grey's play is suspicious to you?
PV has done basically nothing the whole game so far and I can support a wagon on him.
Porochaz is null so far. I don't know what to make of his posts just yet.
After looking again at Slaxx I see he hasn't actually done much at all. Null right now.
UN just sounds like arrogant and cocky town. I don't really agree with his wagon.

Will go into more specifics later.

[GreyICE]

Why are you town, Serela
I hate you
So much

[Captain Murasa]

I don't think Serela even has a MS account :V

[GreyICE]

Yeah well stop playing like her
And I'll call you something else

[Captain Murasa]

Feel free to call me Serela all you want if I fuck up LYLO.

Otherwise, call me Shadoweh so she'll get annoyed.

[GreyICE]

Hmmm, annoying Shadoweh could be fun.
But she's my mason neighbor for life
And I could never do that to her

[Captain Murasa]

You know you can, she will abandon you someday.

[GreyICE]

Yeah but she helps me lynch scum and you don't.
So she gets the nod.
Sorry, dem's da breaks.

[Captain Murasa]

Fine then, but don't come running to me if she breaks your heart.
She's probably already in a masonship with someone not you in some random mafia game.

[GreyICE]

Bah, you can have many partners, but only one is that special someone.

... God, LLD is gonna kill me :p

[Captain Murasa]

Haddock says he thinks Glork is scum for his page 2 Haylen vote. He also has a gut scum read on IAAU.
Still, I don't think it will influence my reads.

[CooLDoG]

CoolDog's big post about me + vote is completely disingenuous and isn't saying anything new.

He's parroting and hoping that nobody notices he's scum with Haylen. Too bad, bro. You're scum.

Just because other pepole might have made the argument before doesn't invalidate the argument. Also, it is page 7, how many real good arguments are out there? I think a wagon on UN will go far.

@glork, in case I missed it the

fluff post

wall, what do you think of UN now?