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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 8:46 am

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danakillsu wrote:I agree that RedPanda is probably town. Other than Phillammon I have nobody I feel really strongly should be lynched at the moment. Otherwise, I would likely be voting them, since people don't seem to get what I'm saying about Phil. inte's latest play is disturbing though, especially since I think we have at least one lurker scum. I think for me this is going to be a bit of a PoE game.

Reads on Haddock and Saul.

Haddock: Either clueless or scum. I haven't seen enough that indicates the latter over the former for me to want to vote him. I wouldn't shed any tears over a lynch of him, I just don't think it's as good as a Phillammon lynch.

saulres: Leaning town. His play fits what I know of him, nothing very strange about his contributions to the game.
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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 8:46 am

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RedPanda wrote:BLASPHEMY

Why do you keep using that word? I do not think it means what you think it means.

Unless you're referring to ShadowGirl being "God" in which case you're just joking around...

I really don't think any serious player changes their reads based on the reads of dead town players.


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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 8:47 am

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Curse this guy as much as you can please tierce and shadowgirl.

At least make it fun for me to read the dead qt.
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 8:50 am

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danakillsu wrote:And yet I never said my role told me not to do something (say, under threat of a modkill). I said I had role-related reasons for not doing something. A second grader could understand the difference, I don't know why it's so hard for you.



So you're hiding it because you want to hide it not because the role makes you do this.

A first grader would know how to say that properly.

I mean seriously

When you tell me Its a role related reason.

What the fuck did you expect anybody to understand.

Role related reason means a reason relating to a role. It is most certainly that. Your assumptions are your fault. I'm pretty sure everybody else but you understood it back at post 1211 (my iso 27).

I'm hiding it technically because I want to hide it, yes. Not hiding it is not REALLY an option, though.
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 8:50 am

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K Dana is scum too.

Scumteam found gg.
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:00 am

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BB, the link you sent me already had dana marked as scum, but you said his bitching was making you reconsider.... but then you have him as conf-scum now and he hasn't quit bitching. Am I misunderstanding?
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:04 am

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danakillsu wrote:I agree that RedPanda is probably town. Other than Phillammon I have nobody I feel really strongly should be lynched at the moment. Otherwise, I would likely be voting them, since people don't seem to get what I'm saying about Phil. inte's latest play is disturbing though, especially since I think we have at least one lurker scum. I think for me this is going to be a bit of a PoE game.

Reads on Haddock and Saul.

Haddock: Either clueless or scum. I haven't seen enough that indicates the latter over the former for me to want to vote him. I wouldn't shed any tears over a lynch of him, I just don't think it's as good as a Phillammon lynch.

saulres: Leaning town. His play fits what I know of him, nothing very strange about his contributions to the game.

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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:30 am

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@danakillsu - Y IS Phillamon SCUMY?!???!? WTF LOL I JUST ISOD HIM FROM TEH PAST FEW DAYS AND IT JUST SEMS 2 ME HE WAS CONFUS3D ABOUT HIS ROLE!!!!!11 OMG WTF LOL BUT HE DOES GIEV OF 2WN VIEBS!11!!!1! WTF
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 10:03 am

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mcqueen wrote:@danakillsu - Y IS Phillamon SCUMY?!???!? WTF LOL I JUST ISOD HIM FROM TEH PAST FEW DAYS AND IT JUST SEMS 2 ME HE WAS CONFUS3D ABOUT HIS ROLE!!!!!11 OMG WTF LOL BUT HE DOES GIEV OF 2WN VIEBS!11!!!1! WTF

Isos 11, 16, and 20-24. I'm not going to let all that slide based on a claim that could just as easily be scum as town.
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 10:10 am

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@mcqueen and anyone else who thinks Phil is town: My arguments for Phil being scum.

Need I get more?

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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 10:13 am

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Phillammon wrote:I can't spot it either. Apologies for my relative lurking, btw. I don't think I'm voting, but UNVOTE: if I am. I also retract my case on myself, there look to be better, *actual* scum here.



THIS HAS GONE UNNOTICED

KILL IT WITH FIRE, BRIMSTONE, AND NUKES

NO NO NO NO
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 10:19 am

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@Amrun, not unnoticed, but I don't find it particularly damning... at least, not moreso than the other scummy things Phil has done. I can buy that as garden-variety poor play.
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 10:45 am

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AtE "I"m the best lynch" ... wagon builds ... retract. That's a pattern, and a scummy one, and we need to kill it.
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 12:44 pm

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Amrun if I lynch phil will you lynch actual scum with me tomorrow?
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 1:03 pm

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Depends on if we agree on who the "actual scum" are. I think Phil is actual scum, for example. At best third party. If we agree on a scumread, then, certainly.
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 1:14 pm

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Phil is town, but if you're going to herp derp around his lynch for the rest of the game let's lynch him.

Scum is Saul, Dana and Haddock. There's undoubtedly a fourth I'm missing.
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 1:40 pm

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I could probably go for Haddock and a compromise on saul.

Not dana, though.
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 1:46 pm

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Fair enough.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Phil

This will be my only compromise vote.

Sorry Phil, get your thoughts out.
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 1:46 pm

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Amrun what do you think his win condition as third party is?

And do you not think reflexive vanillerizer is a bit OP for scum?
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 3:39 pm

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Either survivor or cult recruiter.

Not really, in a game like this. For a lot of roles in this game, vanillizing them would be a blessing for the town. Which would make it a worst role quite handily, I think.
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 5:40 pm

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saulres wrote:
@Mod: Requesting prods of YYR and Foxace
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@Mod
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BB, do you usually identify entire scumteams with no groupscum flips? And what's your track record on success with that?

Tomorrow I'll look at Foxace, since I've already looked at Pokerface and found him leaning scum, and I thought knox was leaning town so with only one post by YYR there's no real point.
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 7:16 pm

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saulres wrote:
saulres wrote:
@Mod: Requesting prods of YYR and Foxace
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@Mod
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BB, do you usually identify entire scumteams with no groupscum flips? And what's your track record on success with that?

Tomorrow I'll look at Foxace, since I've already looked at Pokerface and found him leaning scum, and I thought knox was leaning town so with only one post by YYR there's no real point.

I don't keep track.

You think there is a scum mason?
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 8:01 pm

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Oh well. Go town (probably). As for thoughts, Dana and Aul look like the likely scumteam here. Dana for reasons that everyone else has outlined, and saulres for heavy hypocritical argumens- especially in the whole molla's scum fr voting ML-Calling lots of actions on me thing. These are just heavy leans more than reads, though. Best of luck lynching scum!
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 8:23 pm

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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 11:18 pm

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I was going to post tonight but as you guys appear alittle impatient I'll give yu what I've written so far and pickup where I have left off with writing and reading the thread tonight.

*Post So Far Start*


@saulres,
I was hoping my game braking plan with BBmolla's skill was possible. If it had been, alot of people would have been auto confirmed and scumhunting wouldn't be needed as town would have practically won already. So saying that particular post had less scumhunting than others is accurate. But saying that all my posts are devoid of scumhunting is a big misrep. Who exposed BBmollas PR as fake? Me. I asked some questions towards oversoul and phil in the past in attempts to discern if they were scum. Oversould never answered my questions. I said Ice guy was scum and he ignored me too. If anything it would appear that my scumhunting attempts have been ignored more so than not existed. I think the overall number of posts I have made is likly the cause of that. My posts are long as there is alot that happens in between my posts. As far as why I am irate about other people's posts being long while mine are long, there's a very simple reason for that. Tierce and Oversoul posts are the longest in the thread and I don't really spend time reading my own posts. After all why would i need to read my own posts? I just wrote them. I know what they say. Are you saying you read your posts when you write them? Why? So there's some rather obvious reasons for why I do what I do saul, you look too much into things

But if you are asking me to give more opinions of players still in the game I can do that. My usual scum hunting tactic of finding links seems to be overall failing this game. It was wrong about iceguy, shadow, 2 birds, boy I'm really batting 1000 in this game... Going to change to my other method and that's process of elimination. Figure out who is town, and scum must be in the other pot. Process of elimination if you will

I've come to think my earlier scum read on BBmolla is wrong. I noticed awhile back that BBmolla mentioned Tierce very early in the game. Tierces overall play was very town and its seems as though BBmolla anticpated it being such from the very begining. If BBmolla was scum and knew the alignment of his recruits, the obv best play for him would be bring in an amazing mafia teamate (tierce was town so that didn't happen) or bring in a town player BB could easily manipulate. Tierce did way more scum hunting than BBmolla. BBmolla backed off from his read on oversoul on a few occasions while Tierce just kept on hammering it in. If BBmolla was trying to manipulate Tierce, I would generally expect BB to be more active and Tierce be more passive. Tierce didn't follow BB everywhere in game so lookslike BB isn't scum that knows his recruits alignment before he brings them in. Now let's say BB is scum that doesn't know his recruits alignment. Well then he'd want to bring in someone that could help scum in general. Has BB molla played with tierce alot? Obviously. Has Tierce admitted to being bad at playing as mafia? Yes. So BB couldn't gain anything from a mafia tierce. So one would assume that BBmolla wanted tierce to make BBmolla look good and direct the town towards no scum players. Now for this strategy to be true he would have to want to kill tierce imediatly or never. Imediatly to establish BB must be town by association or never so that Tierce can pretty much help out all game. Tierce died 2 nights later. That is not equal to 1 or never so as I believe mauled to be the mafia kill flavor, Mafia BBmolla didn't do that. Now let's assume BB is Town. He would have to be what he claimed of not knowing his teamate's alignment. So he would want to bring in a player that would help town and not help scum. Tierce was town so we can assume her statement of sucking at playing as mafia as truth. Not help scum objective achieved. Tierce came off as very townie. To say tierce was sucessfully helpful is debatable given the uncertainty of oversoul's alignment but I think Tierce's overal play helped town and as BB seemed to follow Tierce it would appear BB wanted to bring in someone that would help town and himself in general.

*Post so far End*


I'll discuss other players later. BTW when you brought up Massclaim earlier
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As far as why there would seemed to be some post number confusion in thread I would agree that it is likly because of the post goomba deleted. I, PF, am a software QA engineer in real life. I have never worked on the Mafiascum software but as Forum software is still software I will give some analysis in accordance with mafia ideals. Post numbers were off by 1 as a result of a mod's action. When you quote a post on the forum a number is written into your post as a URL to what is being quoted. The number and url are hard written letters and numbers individually. If you as a mod would want to delete a post only and not generally edit another person's post you wouldn't change hard written letters. The posts were all off by 1 right? But the URL's still took you to the same posts. The URL's didn't also change. If there was a mafia post editor then they wouldn't just change the numbers they'd change the posts. No one has complained about the individual words not having been correct so I assume there isn't a mafia post editor. Won't consider the liklihood of a town post editor

By the way until tonight I'm going to test something as see if it does anything

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