He wasn't scumhunting certainly, otherwise he wouldn't have needed the wall. He probably figured it'd be easier to be consistent if he just started again rather than try to line up with all his badposting so far.
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He wasn't scumhunting certainly, otherwise he wouldn't have needed the wall. He probably figured it'd be easier to be consistent if he just started again rather than try to line up with all his badposting so far.- OhGodMyLife
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↑ Junpei wrote:↑ OhGodMyLife wrote:Also, Junpei is really quick to try to talk people out of making that a town tell Which, again, is what scum do, because townies who recognize other townies are the scums' worst nightmare.
It's not a town tell, but whatever, this isn't what made you vote me. Why are you voting me.
pedit: Uh, how the hell is it possible to unconfirm someone who is obviously confirmed town? That makes no sense whatsoever. It wasn't a town tell and you need to be sat down if you think it is (I'll PM you a review of your play after the game if you like). L-2 is not inherently scummy and I find it funny that you think it is.
Stretch harder.
I'm going to stop trying to debate this with you, because you're just wasting everyone's time at this point going around in circles. Shotgun claims universal backup, gives play by play from the mason qt. Most everyone seems to think this makes him obv-town. You and a couple of others are like "BUT WAIT GUYS DON'T DO THAT!" because, why exactly? Because its bad for scum when potential non-scum lynches get crossed off the list, that's why. Same reason you're trying to discourage people from drawing the conclusion that benmage is town.
L-2 is not inherently scummy, you're right, but its a super convenient place for a scum to vote, and it just adds to the pattern of you being scummy.
OhGodMyLife wrote:its too easy for scum to make excuses about saving the mod the trouble.
They only make that excuse if it is town... you know Pine to be town??
Derp, no, of course not. I just think that there's too many votes piling on Pine because omg the deadline's coming guys lets get someone lynched amiright? There's way more resistance to your lynch, thus its the right one.- Junpei
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↑ OhGodMyLife wrote:There's way more resistance to your lynch, thus its the right one.
There's a TON of resistance to a drmyshotgun lynch. You vote first.
Also I notice how you call me scum to prevent people from calling me town. You're scum using classic scum tactics aren't you?- OhGodMyLife
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↑ Nero Cain wrote:↑ OhGodMyLife wrote:↑ OhGodMyLife wrote:Also somebody tell me who actually made a case on Rack yesterday and who was just bandwagoning.
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
pretty much all the early votes. Benmage, The Mini-Librarian, Firestarter, Lady Lambdadelta, Maxous, GreyICE, FakeGod are the ones I remember being crap votes.
↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote:OhGodMyLife, Nero Cain is deluded. Most of the votes on the Rack wagon were deserved.
Do your own research.
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↑ Junpei wrote:↑ OhGodMyLife wrote:There's way more resistance to your lynch, thus its the right one.
There's a TON of resistance to a drmyshotgun lynch. You vote first.
Also I notice how you call me scum to prevent people from calling me town. You're scum using classic scum tactics aren't you?
There's not going to BE a shotgun lynch because he's town. Accept it. Never going to happen. Stop obfuscating. I'm talking about the difference between the amount of resistance to a pine lynch, the leading wagon, or a junpei lynch, the trailing second wagon.
And notice how you jump right to OMGUS. You're scum using classic scum tactics aren't you? (See, I can ask leading questions just like you!)
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↑ OhGodMyLife wrote:There's not going to BE a shotgun lynch because he's town.
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↑ OhGodMyLife wrote:There's not going to BE a shotgun lynch because he's town.
There's not going to be a Junpei lynch because Junpei is town!
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He didn't? Eh. I guess he didn't. Damn. Could have sworn he did. That does take the wind out of my sails a bit.
Still, though. It's the certainty of it that's scummy. He's ready to paint any slightly-scummy action as scummy without that "is it scummy or is it bad town" moment of doubt that is the sign of a town-mindset. (see his insistence that drmyshotgun is not town as backup evidence)
↑ HezLucky wrote:Hey Mastin. Did anyone ask you for your reads? No? Then why are you giving them. Other than an attempt to try and look town I can't for the life of me understand the purpose behind your post (O LETS GIVE MORE INFORMATION TO THE MAFIAZ)
Junpei is an EXCELLENT lynch. And if we have a townwagon flip today we are lynching from the people on that wagon tomorrow.
WTF? mastin2 came back from V/LA, read the game, and is giving his updated reads. When did that become bad play?
The second line doesn't make much sense either. "Junpei is an EXCELLENT lynch. Let me just scare people away from jumping on the wagon by letting them know I will try to lynch them if I am wrong."
You know who else didn't care about votes on him? rack.
Oh wow. That's a horrible bad straw-grasping post. OhGodMyLife has a perfectly valid point. Right now you're just scum who has run out of interesting ways to distract attention from yourself.
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I'm still waiting on LLD to give her FakeGod read. I've asked like 4 times.
With the deadline extension I'm putting my vote back on TML.
vote:TMLOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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^That.↑ OhGodMyLife wrote:Nero WTF, get back on the Junpei wagon
Nero, you're right: TML IS scum. But there's not enough support to lynch TML today, nor the time to sway people. You can't get the lynch no matter how much you might want it. But you CAN bargain with people--"I'll support you on *alsoscummyplayer*, in exchange for you supporting me on TML tomorrow when we have the time to lynch 'im." or something like that. In this case, I'd be more than happy--thrilled, even--to join you on a TML wagon...tomorrow.
But today, it's Junpei.My academy.
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This is eight people who are effectively wasting their votes. (Make it nine, with Nero on TML with SC.) I'd be willing to be that there is a MINIMUM of two--probably three--scum in this pile. (Junpei and shotty for sure.)mastin2 (2) - Pine, Junpei
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There are only two realistic lynch candidates today--Junpei and Pine. I'm having second thoughts on Pine, but Junpei continues to come off as scum.My academy.
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By the way, close-but-not-quite. I've concluded Junpei's scum, shotty's scum, and TML's scum. And for the three scumslots remaining, I've narrowed it down. FakeGod, DeasVail, kdowns (Macros), and Pine. HEAVILY thinking DV and kdowns are scum in there, so really it's basically between Pine and FakeGod for the last slot.
(*shudders*. Yes, that means a townread on Khan. I've devoted multiple paragraphs in my QT to why "this is a bad idea, this is a bad read, this is a bad idea this is a bad idea thisisabadidea...", but dang it, if he's scum he's playing exactly as he'd need to be in order for me to think he's town. )My academy.
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It goes without saying that those of you not voting Junpei or Pine need to pick a wagon ASAP.
If you are absolutely having trouble, look at the people who are on teh Pine wagon, and the Junpei wagon, and decide which wagon is more likely to be town-driven. Then join it. There is no reason to not be on one of these two wagons right now.The following people own: Pie, Fritz, Inhim
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its FG, not Pine.
vote:JunOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Fine,vote Pine
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Pine (8)- Maxous, scooby, Benmage, The Mini-Librarian, drmyshotgun, Psyche, kdowns, Junpei
Junpei (6)- mastin2, HezLucky, Lady Lambdadelta, OhGodMyLife, Kublai Kahn, Nero Cain
kdowns (2)- Code_X, DeasVail
mastin2 (1)- Pine
The Mini-Librarian (1)- StrangerCoug
redFF (1)- drmyshottyizsik
OhGodMyLife (1)- redFF
Not Voting (3)- FakeGod
With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch
Deadline:Monday, May 14, 2012 3pm CST
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My thoughts:
1. Psyche Merry or Pippin
2. Kublai Khan Boromir
3. scooby Angry Smeagol
4. FakeGod poor me
5. OhGodMyLife Theoden
6. The Mini-Librarian Denethor
8. DeasVail Legolas
9. kdowns Samwise
10. Code_X Merry or Pippin
11. Benmage either Gandalf the grey or Saruman
12. Pine Gollum
13. drmyshottyizsik Bilbo Baggins
14. HezLucky Merry or Pippin
15. drmyshotgun Frodo Baggins
16. Nero Cain Faramir or Sauron
17. redFF Eomer or Uruk-hai captain
19. mastin2 Either Elrond or Balrog
20. Lady Lambdadelta Galadriel
21. Junpei Either Aragorn or Ringwraith
22. Maxous Gimli
24. StrangerCoug Either Gandalf the white or Treebeard
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