So this is my ‘Respond to Benmage’ post.
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Benmage wrote: Well nonetheless, whats the most common scum role? RB. So don't softclaim so obviously please.
So it was bad of him to soft-claim and yet Benmage is ripe to jump right on said soft-claim and bring it right to everyone’s attention in
Post 494.
That’s perfectly Pro-Town behavior to on one hand point and scream “HEY LOOK VIAJY CLAIMED VIG” and then turn right around and say “Tut tut chap you should not be doing that. And I’m being sarcastic. It’s not. The above post was clearly useless Faux Town Concern style posting.
Benmage wrote: Yeah I told you to msg Faraday about MGS, where I precaught Fate scum. So being able to identify Fate as scum, means being able to recognize if he's not scum, i.e. town. SO cheah.
You can also msg Amrun for Otters tigers and sharks. I called Fate scum. Along with DGB i think too, and was asked if they were on the same team where I said I didn't know.
So while I might not have a recent game calling him town. (I don't know.. did I in Gorrads Mafia? I don't care too look) Those are too recent games where I found him scum, and I believe being able to see him as scum, is being able to see the reverse. That said. I need to re-evaluate that early read.
So your only support for your “I can read Fate like a Book” is
1. A ‘pre-read’ that isn’t actually documented in a thread anywhere and we would just have ‘take Faraday’s word for it’?
2. An eaten thread where you ‘caught Fate’. Remind me again – when I was half-reading along with that game the reason I recall Fate was caught by Iecerint counter-claimed his “Shark Watcher” fake-claim and not some brilliant scum-hunting on your part. Then again I didn’t intently read the game so I can’t substantiate that you were NOT calling him scummy before he was lynched.
So you have nothing else for me?
Benmage wrote: Mis-stating open sourced information. YES I TOLD YOU EVERYONE YOU WERE TOWN IN ASOS AND DIDN'T THINK YOU"D FIX THAT......... Reeeeeeaach further please.
So let me get this straight. You make assertions characterizing my stance that I believed in the “Undermining of Benmage is a Scumtell” stance when I am Town.
First you reference Supernatural Mafia as the source and when I ask you to provide links you get all ‘High and Mighty’ saying “YOU REFUTE MY STATEMENT”? When I say I do and you are making crap up you next go “Hurr , it was A Storm of Swords Mafia I don’t have perfect recall but HERE ARE YOUR DIRECT WORDS AS TOWN SHOWING YOU BELIEVE IT”. And then I show how you are once again fabricating as I was scum trying to use that derp argument to get a mislynch on GreyICE. And your response is “Well dunce cap on me”
So what would you have me believe –
That you are playing so poorly as Town that you would fabricate evidence to support your case not once but twice and when it has been presented to you that your only comment is ‘Guess I was wrong on that’. I see no signs you are backing off your stance.
Sorry, that makes no sense to me.
Benmage wrote:-I think he's calling us easy targets to rile up, not low hanging fruit if you will....
-Decent second point. That feels like an AtR.
1. You seem to be doing an awful lot of explaining away / excuse making for Pappums. Did you read the LMP game in question to review for yourself the ‘extent’ at which his statements are valid or are you just taking his word for it?
2. Really. You think Pappums is making a scummy ‘Appeal to Repetition’? That’s an interesting reaction from you given
Post 333 –
^oh, calling scum, scum.... welcome to Mafia.
Here you basically said my stating you were ‘Appealing to Repitition’ regarding me was not valid. So suddenly it is a good point and possibly valid when before it was junk? That’s what’s called Cognitive Dissonance.
Benmage wrote: That was quite early into the game.... I could've done some meta research, I certainly have in past game.
-You can that confidently now...but at the time. Not really.
Really … going down this road again? What Past game have you done early game research like you asked me to do for you this game? And if you were going to do it yourself you wouldn’t have asked me the initial question you would have done it. So yes, I could easily confidently say so then.
Benmage wrote: See, I still don't like this at all about MoI.
Way to be vague. Are you specifically stating that my opinioin about Peregrine’s complete ‘not indication of hammer’ is scummy? Please actually state such if so and explain why it is scummy. Otherwise why are you fluffing if you aren’t trying to make a statement about my alignment.
Benmage wrote: Wait... what did I miss here?
One of your early ‘scum-points’ on me was that I was using insulting languge regarding Fate. In
Post 422 I showed Fate doing the exact same things in reverse ... basically attacking me with insults. You clearly are smart enough to get that. Why duck commenting on it?
Benmage wrote:I could find MoI twisting things to sound the way he'd want them to.
Funny, because I’ve already proven you are doing just that. Fabricating meta evidence to support your ‘case’. Trying on one hand to suggest that certain meta is a valid scum-tell while simultaneously trying to dismiss out of hand other meta that shows Town-tells.
Benmage wrote:I'm glad you've kept the humour(fancy). Sometimes I feel like I'm sitting down to work. WTF is that!!? This is a game. Dis shitz suppose to be fun.
That’s because mislynching me is damn hard work. If you wanted fun you wouldn’t have chosen that route in the first place champ!
Benmage wrote: QFT. MoI will use just about anything it seems to paint the negative picture.
Pot calling kettle … pot calling kettle.
This is
TO A TEE
exactly what you have done all game. Tried to portray pretty much every element of my play as ‘obv-scummy’ no matter how much it doesn’t make sense.
And further buddying / agreeing / defending of Pappums is noted.
Benmage wrote: Fuck this reads so town.
As is this.
Benmage wrote: 1. Disagree.
1. You being able to keep up with more than 5 games means I can....This logic is perfect. (moreinternetsarcasm)
2. Answered already, but you'll ignore truth and beat this point. I've been called out for slow starts before. The game is still D1 and hence premature to be looking at PC. Am I scum in all my games? ROFL.
Oh wow you disagree that I’ve made it clearly why you are scum. ‘No U’ is it?
Link me to other completed games that you’ve been ‘called out’ for slow starts as Town. I’ve never recalled seeing one. You keep trying to claim support for your statements and not providing it and I’m going to call you out on it every time.
If you aren’t capable of keeping up with so many games why haven’t you replaced out of one of them to lighten your load and allow you to play with full effectiveness instead of trying to hide your scummy play here behind “I’m so overloaded”?
Benmage wrote: (I am planning on looking at the others now, starting with our two leads pizzza/rat.)
This came at
Post 491. Still very much waiting on this.
For the record I do think it is pretty damn scummy that you post your little
Post 488 where you essentially say “I’m storing this here to point and laugh at Korlash post game regarding Pizza” while saying you actually need to look into Pizza 3 posts later. If you’ve already made the assessment that Korlash is wrong and Pizza is scumtastic why are you stating you need to look into Pizza?
And on the sniping end let’s quote all your recent sniping / undermining yourself:
Because this snipe is way cooler than asking why I could possible after all that change my read right. Gosh I wish I was as BadAss as you. (internetsarcasm)
Complaining about me calling out your fluff (and it was that) while doing some sniping yourself. Nice use of double standard.
For the record – it was fluff because you basically said “Damn I’m too stubborn to change my read on MoI” which is meaningless crap. Your posts have indicated NOT ONCE that any change was evidenced. Nope, not a bit. Just more attacks, dismissive suggestions and further repititions that “MoI is scum”.
FUCKING BASTARD!!! POSTING ELSEWHERE!!! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!
(although, being behind a couple pages in a game could be a deterrent, whereas he could be up to date in the other threads... or hell it could be the start of a new game ...the posts could be largely phone posts...)
NO FUCK THAT KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!! RAWR AMERICA
Look it’s undermining in a way that tries to ridicule my stance that makes perfect sense.
1. You have on multiple occasions posted many, many times in other games while avoiding this one.
2. You agree directly that “Active Benmage is Town Benmage” is a stance you have championed as Town in other games. Yet here you are trying to make every excuse in the book why that isn’t true for just this game.
Whatever.
The MoI case is awesome:
I have a family and can post during the weekends.
MoI has a family and cannot.
Therefore MoI is scum.
(This totally isn't me mocking MoI's point of being able to handle X amount of games, and me being overwhelmed)
Oh look .. pointless undermining that doesn’t have any relation to actual scum-hunting.
Undermining is only bad when it’s aimed at you right?
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
