Open 399: Faith Plus 1 (Day Seven)

[Kassadin]

/confirm wassap

[MattP]

I'd also like to say right now that Trollie and I are good friends from RL, and we will not discuss the game out of the boundaries of the thread. However, I think it should be noted.

[TheTrollie]

I see that you might be confused we are buddying up so quickly but we just know each other very well and want to use that to our (Town's) advantage.

its great that you have friends in the game...but there is no way for you to know that none of your friends are scum. The

"our"

you speak of DOES NOT EQUAL TOWN until you prove yourself town...i dont like what i'm getting from you in this post. affirming that "our" is town...the only people with an "our" right now are the scum...

[drmyshotgun]

There is no such thing as Voting Block. Kondi just experimented with your reactions. There is no more "OUR" in a sense of that list of people Kondi gave.
You also didn't answer my question.

Are you a scum trying to sabotage this Block?
Did you feel empowered when you were voting Kondi while Chrimi and Matt had already placed their votes on him?

Also I'm going to add this question:

Did Mattp voting for Kondi in anyways inclined you to vote him along with him?


@Venmar: No need to explain further. Kondi

did

say that he was using it as a bait (he's still yet to tell us what he gained) so your explanation is disappointing.

@MattP: So you guys naturally buddy each other. Okay.

Oh, here's Kassadin. Letter count: 13.

[Venmar]

Actually, his letter count is actually 15 if you include the / and the space.

[TheTrollie]

ok...will answer...

You seem pretty negative about this new idea to you. Presenting all sorts of bad cases and horrible possibilities. Are you scum trying to sabotage this Block?

According to kondi there was nothing to sabotage…was this block just a reaction test or not…kondi says it is…if it is...what am i trying to sabotage?...i guess--yes...i am trying to destroy it because i think its dumb...and no...i was not inclined to vote for kondi because they voted for him...i was inclined to vote for kondi because people were making arguments as to why his idea did not benefit town...

[TheTrollie]

...and then also because once these arguments were made he suddenly backtracked

[MattP]

Also, Kassadin's post history looks very unpromising. And there's a lot to see (like 100 pages of posts). I doubt we're going to successfully pressure him into voting.

[MattP]

Posting*

[TheTrollie]

I see that you might be confused we are buddying up so quickly but we just know each other very well and want to use that to our (Town's) advantage.

this says that you are actually doing this to benefit town (or not town, but you and ur buddies)

There is no such thing as Voting Block. Kondi just experimented with your reactions. There is no more "OUR" in a sense of that list of people Kondi gave.

now you say there is no our?

I dont like this...it seems you keep switching stances from the bloc being real to it being a reaction test...and btw...it was not even your reaction test so even if kondi is town doesnt mean you are too

for now:

UNVOTE: Kondi2424

i got bigger scum reads now

[drmyshotgun]

And yet no vote.
Bigger scumread than Kondi and you merely unvote on someone?

That is when I was posting an analysis of each posts without reading the entire thing.

I don't get your sentence: "It was not even your reaction test so even if Kondi is town doesnt mean you are too"

[drmyshotgun]

VOTE: TheTrollie
Cuz you are mis-repping me.

Dropping the campaign (sigh...again).

[TheTrollie]

And yet no vote.
Bigger scumread than Kondi and you merely unvote on someone?

yes...im a bit confused by whats been going on with the bloc thing so im not ready to vote

That is when I was posting an analysis of each posts without reading the entire thing.

Oh...so you buddy up to kondi when you think he is serious and then once he says "jking guys" you change your mind too? Also this response does not change the fact that the "our" you refer to when you

thought

the bloc was real was in no way verifiably 100% town.

I don't get your sentence: "It was not even your reaction test so even if Kondi is town doesnt mean you are too"

I mean that you have started referring to the group as if it is something you and your friends were doing to scumtest...it was kondi's doing...not urs or anyone else in your group's.

[drmyshotgun]

No, Kondi was probably observing how people

in

the group was reacting as well.
Like if someone is overly happy with it or someone's sceptical with the idea etc etc.

I had no intentions of buddying with Kondi except for the fact that I was trying to unite everyone into Policy Lynching Kassadin.

What is so confusing? You should really ask Kondi for that instead of trying to figure it out in your head because the way you imagine things and the way someone intends things may be different.

[BK201]

Alright, here's how this shit will go down.

I haven't tried this yet, but we're gonna go voting block style. Members will be added by selection and taken away if suspected by anyone else in the voting block.

ORIGINAL MEMBERS

kondi2424
drmyshotgun
OmNom
vijay
Psyche

Sound good?

I don't like it because it turns many votes into a super power. Scum can influence a single vote just as well as they can this super power vote, since in essence it is one (big) vote, and the council(calling them that) will be more likely to agree with members of the council than outsiders due to the sense of superiority(which they might be unaware of). You then say this is a reaction test, which always sounds scummy, but this also seems like a pretty large day 1 gambit I don't think scum would do so I won't vote you for this.

I'm going to make a vote towards VOTE: Kassadin unless he proves to me he's not just going to troll this game.

AGREED.
VOTE: Kassadin

[TheTrollie]

yes...i get what kondi was looking for...what i am saying is that just because i think kondi is clear doesnt mean you are too.

forget about my buddying point...my main point against you right now is that you explicitly said a bloc would help "us" when you had no idea who "us" was. this was

before

you knew the bloc was fake.

I am less confused with kondi's logic and more confused about you're referring to it as a good way for you and your friends to help town (as per what i explained above)

[MattP]

BK, I see you lurking, what's your weigh-in?

p-edit: Lawl

Guys, we're very potentially wasting a day with this lynch. I

seriously

think we can get him replaced.

[TheTrollie]

Guys, we're very potentially wasting a day with this lynch. I seriously think we can get him replaced.

agree...seems dumb to policy lynch right now...doesnt that put us down 2 if kassadin is town? why not try to lynch someone for being scummy rather than for being annoying? I know policy lynchings are part of the game...but i am not really sure of why they are beneficial to town...if someone wants to enlighten me that would be great.

[BK201]

Lynch Kass day 1 when there isn't much dirt on people, or suffer his wrath all game since after day 1 it becomes significantly harder to lynch this guy just because he always plays like this. Useless as town, indistinguishable as mafia.

[BK201]

For the record he plays the way he does on purpose.

[drmyshotgun]

@Trollie:Of course I'm not clear. But why did you clear Kondi? You didn't actually say why Kondi is not scummy anymore.
I think you are following MattP's tails again.

Voting Block WOULD have helped if it was used to get rid of Kassadin like some of us are trying to do right now.

P-Edit: Oh, you are yet AGAIN following MattP's tails.
Policy Lynching is beneficial to Town because we are at more liberty to lose number of people earlier in the game rather than later. Kassadin is unlikely to help us now or later so we get him out of the radar when we have the chance.
You've continuously said you don't see "beneficial" side of

anything

we've pulled so far in this game.
Is there anything which

you

think is beneficial and would like to share??

P-Edit again: Yes yes.

[MattP]

*sigh*

Vote: Kassadin

[TheTrollie]

@Trollie:Of course I'm not clear. But why did you clear Kondi? You didn't actually say why Kondi is not scummy anymore.
I think you are following MattP's tails again.

Voting Block WOULD have helped if it was used to get rid of Kassadin like some of us are trying to do right now.

P-Edit: Oh, you are yet AGAIN following MattP's tails.
Policy Lynching is beneficial to Town because we are at more liberty to lose number of people earlier in the game rather than later. Kassadin is unlikely to help us now or later so we get him out of the radar when we have the chance.
You've continuously said you don't see "beneficial" side of

anything

we've pulled so far in this game.
Is there anything which

you

think is beneficial and would like to share??

P-Edit again: Yes yes.

(a) matt introduced me to the game...i have a lot of respect for the guy in his ability to play...so yes...i may be piggybacking a bit on him but its because hes the only one of you who I know at all
(b) My question was different than matt's was...he was the first to question the policy lynch, and wants a replacement...i just wanted to know how a policy lynch works

I told u why i didn't think kondi was scummy...because i think your response to his posts were even more scummy...i.e. the "our advantage" thing...

u dont need a voting bloc to get rid of kassadin...if he should really be policy lynched lets do it...dont use a bloc to bully other people into making a vote they dont wanna make

p-edit: now that mattp voted kassadin...should i do it too? i guess so, right shot?

ps. this is not a vote for kassadin in case that was not obvious

[MattP]

I don't really consider Trollie's buddying of me a scumtell. I think he's just excited to be playing his first game with me. He was going on and on in RL about how excited he was to be playing a game with me. I think he should stop buddying me, but I wouldn't consider that a tell.

I do think I have some insight into his mind since I know him very well and that keeping him for awhile would be a good move for town.

[TheTrollie]

MattP is my hero.