Open 399: Faith Plus 1 (Day Seven)

[Om of the Nom]

And not because you voted him.

[MattP]

Post count =/= time

as time --> infinite, psyche posting --> 9000+

[MattP]

1) He doesn't have any scum reads (non-committal and unhelpful: +scumpoints)
2) He just voted for someone who hasn't posted when we are ONE day into the game, BS vote +scum
3) Venmar, I already asked about Kass and it was explained, you're not reading the thread

1) He doesn't have any scum reads because he never actually posted. He is either completely inactive or lurking. I was trying to make Psyche talk by pressuring him so we can actually get a read on him, town or scum.
2) Not sure if your talking about me or Pysche, but Psyche has only made two posts this whole game. Both are during confirmation stage and before the game actually started. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOTU ME, which i do assume you are, its true. However there have been over 230 posts, equaling almost over 10 pages. This is a lot of posts, and he has not participated in any of them.
3) In my posts i tried to explain why i think Policy Lynching is a bad idea. I am guessing you are saying i am not reading when you guys explained how he played? I will admit that i probably didn't read that part, but what i got was that he is largely unhelpful, a troll, and sometimes unreadable with unhelpful posts.

1) I was referring to you
2) I was referring to you, and no, your vote on Psyche is BS and is probscum looking for some way to seem townlike or just a useless vote.
3) Ok, so you're not reading the thread.

Lots o' scum reads today.

[BK201]

Vijay pushed for it when EVERYONE disagreed with it. Dont think he'd touch that area as scum. He's probably town.

BK, I don't appreciate your insulting my town play when you have never seen it. So basically, my reads are all going to be shit and I shouldn't be listened to just because I haven't won too many town games?

6-15 mang

[MattP]

BK, don't discount someone just because they lost a lot as town. Town records are pretty random since it takes into account a LOT of players.

[Venmar]

Is it just me or are you guys protecting a lurker? Or are you protecting him because of the way i tried to pressure him...

[MattP]

Is it just me or are you guys protecting a lurker? Or are you protecting him because of the way i tried to pressure him...

Scum targeted.

UNVOTE: Darkling
VOTE: Venmar

[BK201]

He's trying to give me his expert advice on how to read Kass.

[MattP]

He's trying to give me his expert advice on how to read Kass.

Don't worry about it, Venmar is scum. Vote for him.

[kondi2424]

Matt, do you agree that BK is scummy for continuing the argument, or are you coaching him?

I can't read you, and that's a problem.

PEdit: Yeah Venmar is scum. I'll end up voting him sometime.

Double-PEdit: Will you just shut the fuck up already? You don't know shit about reads. I could say you're new so you can't have good reads, and disregard yours like that. I have good reads, and my record means jack shit in that.

[MattP]

Matt, do you agree that BK is scummy for continuing the argument, or are you coaching him?

I can't read you, and that's a problem.

I don't think it's scummy, I think it's annoying as fuck.

I'm town.

[kondi2424]

Oh okay

[BK201]

And of course, you left me out, which means that you don't have all of the town in there.

Yes,

we

left him out....I find Chrimi the most fun player to be in a game with so far.

Explain this.

Surprised nobody mentioned this yet. bolded/enlarged word is my emphasis, and the key word that makes dmr scum, and kodin by relation.

only backing off the PL because of the lucky scumslip. Kass you're still a self-proclaimed troll.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dmrshotgun

P-Edit: I have experience with Venmar off-site as I said. This is his his normal, and at least he tries unlike Kass. Also, I have many game's experience off-site. Thirdly, you're scum if dmr is.

[kondi2424]

So you're saying you think this voting bloc thing was an elaborate plot that shotgun and I came up with?

First of all, if this was true, why wouldn't shotgun suggest Chrimi as a person to be in the bloc in the QT? Second, how the hell would planning this be beneficial to us at all?

[TheTrollie]

WHY IS NOBODY LISTENING TO MY POINT AGAINST DOC??

[kondi2424]

UNVOTE:

[MattP]

WHY IS NOBODY LISTENING TO MY POINT AGAINST DOC??

LOL

Trollie is town.

[MattP]

EBWOP: Scum would not get that emotional about town not listening to him.

[BK201]

Scum benefit from looking town by drawing that attention to themselves that we generally perceive scum avoiding. Even more you can backtrack saying it's a reaction test and that you were scumhunting. Again that looks town for the scum.
Would I vote you just for that though? No, I probably wouldn't mention it.
but Dmr's post is a scumslip, and that doesn't look good for you when he flips scum.

[Venmar]

Unvote

I still think taking a look at the lurkers is not a bad idea.

I will do some reading and i will make a case or two later today.

[kondi2424]

Also note the fact that shotgun asked a ton of questions about my bloc at the beginning.

And it's not a scumslip from my POV because it involves me being scum as well.

Your push on this is making you really null, though.

Why is no one commenting on BK? He thinks he's found something.

[kondi2424]

/confirm

You didn't give shotgun and I a third partner, by the way.

Wow, this game is some piece of shit luck, isn't it?

All I know so far is that Kass and OmNom are town.

[vijay2vasandani]

Darkling (or whoever called me scum for lurking) isn't very good at this game.

To clarify: Scum don't support town. Lurkers don't support town. Therefore Lurkers are more likely to be scum. Which is the only reason I put lurkers in my scum reads AFTER I said I hadn't figured out who scum are. Truthfully I didn't want to place my reads because I don't have any, but I was responding to pressure to help prove what side I am on.

yeah, but you made the accusation not knowing I was half a world away and the different timezone made me unable to post with you people. I'm not angry about the read, I'm just saying that, as a player, you don't notice the little details.

We don't even have to be all town. If we have one scum, the conflicting interest within the group makes it even more obvious, allowing us to catch scum. Why do you think it's easy to catch scum in neighbourhoods? Furthermore, even if there is one scum, he has to work with us, adding his weight to our points which will be 80% town-sided anyway.

No. If you have one scum he'll just vote with you and hide in the voting block, making it harder to catch him, not easier. The voting block is a bad idea until you actually have townreads.

well if he votes WITH us, then scum is just adding weight to town-oriented decisions. Which is fine by me, because scum lose one team member until we can eliminate via PoE.

BTW, to add to my Dark case, notice how he needed to be pushed before he was able to list all his reads? And when he finally did list them, his main scumreads were lurkers.

And how exactly is that scummy?

Kondi join the bloc. You're town. We can vote Darkling or Venmar, idc. We'll catch scum either way.

[Om of the Nom]

Also hey, you forgot to mention how he called you a lurker even though it hadn't been at least 2 days.

[Venmar]

I don't regret making my initial post (225).

Anyone want to explain to me why trying to root out a lurker / inactive is so scummy? I know Mattp give his explanations, but anyone else wanting to do the same?