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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 10:47 pm

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But, then that faith healer that claimed also has a 50% chance of survival.

So it would put you up 25%, but them down 50%.

I don't think we want a higher amount of chance for a PR to be lynched.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 10:48 pm

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There's two Faith Healers.
They won't know who the other Healer is...
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 10:50 pm

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Yes but listen.

You go from 25% chance to 50% chance.

The healer that claimed so the other healer heals him instead of you goes from 100% chance down to 50% chance.

That's 25% more chance that one of our PR's will be lynched.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 10:53 pm

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Fuck, I'm sorry I claimed.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 10:54 pm

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Oh God Chrimi. Role-fishing like hell, considering shooting our PR, what next? There are two Faith Healers. How will they know one is fake-claiming?

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Come to think of it, his comment about all the town not being in the bloc was kinda weird. With a 5p bloc not all town would have been on anyway. But even if you ignore that, he's done an absolutely brilliant job in his last two posts.

P.edit: shotgun that's twice.

P.p.edit: he isn't talking about that. He's talking about the fact that scum could fakeclaim and we have no way to check, so it's a moot point anyway.

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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 10:56 pm

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It's fine, it would be best though to go for the 25% of your survival than 50% and 50% of another PR's survival.

And yeah, that claim did seem kinda out of place. You should relax a little shotgun. Here, have some coffee :P

Anyways, to my favorite player, just be more careful and look at more possibilities next time.

Faith healers: Neither of you claim, we don't want scum knowing who another of my faith healer is.

P-edit: Lol vijay.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 10:56 pm

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So me telling the faith healers not to claim is rolefishing?

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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 10:58 pm

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vijay2vasandani wrote:There are two Faith Healers. How will they know one is fake-claiming?

Ohhh, I didn't think about that...

That's another reason why the faith healer's shouldn't claim, cause the scum could misclaim and the other one wouldn't know if they were or weren't...

So yeah, FH's, don't claim.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 10:59 pm

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I need some sleep. *Drinks Chrimi's coffee anyways*

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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 11:00 pm

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And Chrimi your percentages are wrong. You forget that there's a 50-50 chance that scum will pick either shotgun or the faith healer. So it's only half of what you said. But still a risk we shouldn't have had to take. But at least it helped catch Chrimi-scum.

P.edit: you saying it was a good idea in the first place was rolefishing.

P.p.edit: again? Come on guys.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 11:02 pm

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If I was rolefishing, I wouldn't have switched
before
you said something about it.

I switched because I realized the dangers.

And I guess you're right about my percentages being wrong. But then the mafia would know two of our PR's after the first day. It would be hurtful to town.

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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 11:06 pm

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Gut, tone when outlining shotgun kill percentage, minimal role-fishing with FHs, quick retraction when he realised a problem for towncred. Idk man, the best I've got atm. Will read again in an hour or so. Church XD
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 11:35 pm

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Aww, vivi I thought you wanted to have a successful voting block?
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 12:18 am

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Yeah, but it was just a bit too blatant by Chrimi.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 12:38 am

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7+ pages in 10 hours. o.0 Gah, I've written up two versions of ISO's that keep getting more complicated and rewritten. We've skipped through way too many pages x.X I'm going to break this post up into 3 so I can actually get it out.

drmyshotgun: Shoooottttttyyyy, a PR claim? Now? That's tragic. I didn't realize Trollie was bugging you so hard. I wish I had gotten this post out earlier, I think I could have stopped you. I'm waiting for a counterclaim. And if you're telling the truth then we just took a heavy hit.
What I already had: I like how you reacted to the Voting Block. I don't like how you weren't reading along with the thread for a bit. I never felt like you had that strong of a case against Trollie though, but your defense to his questions was excellent. Other than that you've been questioning and seeking information, so I feel you've been actually scumhunting. I don't understand why you voted BK. And lastly I'd like to get to hear your reads, I hope the speed this game has been plowing doesn't throw you out of it.

Om of the Nom: Your posts are info-lite and have become more and more trolling as the game went on. I strongly disagree that everyone should be expected to have reads right off the back. I would prefer to gather information before I throw around wild accusations beyond RVS, and this game's RVS was ended very shortly. I also agree with Trollie that it doesn't matter how Fate usually plays at all, the point is how YOU play. And I don't think you've been doing a very good job of helping town, considering you've given such low information about your own ideas of scum or town.

TheTrollie: I've seen it several times already where you've claimed someone is scummy for the smallest little things that didn't usually look like scumtells. And then when you try to justify your suspicions you claim their response isn't good enough and refuse to listen to it. I also don't like how you called a policy lynch retarded but then turned around yourself with an 'I'm so innocent, I just didn't know what a policy lynch was.' Overall I just don't feel like you're doing a good job scumhunting, and I can't tell if you're doing it intentionally and using the newbie claim as an excuse or if you're actually just a bad newbie.
To explain about shotty: You say he changed his story about the voting block. I see it as he revealed information. At first before he knew it was fake he said it would help town. After he found out it was fake he said he assumed it was made to help town by lynching kass. I don't see any conflicting information there.

Kassadin: Whoa, 3 posts so far. And your second post was actually competent, somewhat, even though it didn't exactly carry any new information on its own. But I'm still willing to give you a chance to prove yourself after your third started sounding more like yourself. So please answer the questions I posed earlier. Why do you think MattD is scum? What are your reads so far?

vijay2vasandani: I didn't like your MattP read at first but your explanation of such made a lot of sense. I don't agree with you about the voting block, I still think it'll help scum hide to endgame without forcing them to reveal they're scum and help them win. If scum is working and hiding with town, how do you find scum? And no, I didn't notice anything about your timezone and frankly it wouldn't change anything. I don't know you personally, for all I know you were a scum hiding out and being silent. I like that you've given good information, I do wish for more. I'm feeling a Town read.

Now I did want to say that I agree with both Vijay and Psyche that I was acting rashly by putting them both as scum for lurking so early in the game. I was just saying I was more willing to lynch lurkers because I think they're more likely to be scum.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 12:54 am

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^ accepted. Furthermore, I like the reads. Well most of them.

Except for a couple things. Firstly is that what would be called IioA? And also, who is scum? Read on Chrimi?
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 12:55 am

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So far
to keep it simple

Vijay has made a good post about chrimi role fishing
i agree
i dont like how chrimi is trying to make faith healers claim
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 12:57 am

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Chrimi wrote:So yeah, FH's, don't claim.

Chrimi wrote:Faith healers: Neither of you claim, we don't want scum knowing who another of my faith healer is.


Kass... *facepalm*
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 1:06 am

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Yes but you say that after vijay pointed out that you were role fishing
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 1:17 am

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No, I said it
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 1:17 am

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Chrimi wrote:But, then that faith healer that claimed also has a 50% chance of survival.

So it would put you up 25%, but them down 50%.

I don't think we want a higher amount of chance for a PR to be lynched.

vijay2vasandani wrote:Oh God Chrimi. Role-fishing like hell, considering shooting our PR, what next? There are two Faith Healers. How will they know one is fake-claiming?

VOTE: Chrimi

Come to think of it, his comment about all the town not being in the bloc was kinda weird. With a 5p bloc not all town would have been on anyway. But even if you ignore that, he's done an absolutely brilliant job in his last two posts.

P.edit: shotgun that's twice.

P.p.edit: he isn't talking about that. He's talking about the fact that scum could fakeclaim and we have no way to check, so it's a moot point anyway.

P.p.p.edit: fuck me, let me post bastards.


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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 1:30 am

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@Dark: What information do you want me to give? I've given all the information I need to and I can supply more if needed. Why are you worried about throwing around wild accusations? The whole point of the game is to throw out wild accusations.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 1:32 am

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I noticed that. I'm torn between a genuine retraction and a an attempt to gain towncred.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 1:33 am

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Anyways~

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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 1:35 am

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Nope, he's scum.
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